Episode 40 - Grand Haven Lighthouses

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000Hi everyone. I'm Emily.200:00:02,000 --> 00:00:02,800And I'm Vince.300:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,000And this is the Lighthouse Lowdown.400:00:06,000 --> 00:00:34,000.500:00:34,000 --> 00:01:01,000.600:01:01,000 --> 00:01:09,720today so hope you are too. History Buoy is a historical event that actually happened just a700:01:09,720 --> 00:01:17,880couple weeks ago. Whoa. I know. Okay. It's gonna go down in history. I know it. It is about putting800:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,760a Fresnel lens back into service which is I told you about it the other day when I saw it on900:01:22,760 --> 00:01:30,680Instagram. Here is the Instagram post for those of us who are watching on YouTube. It's by Montauk1000:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,920Point Lighthouse. MTK underscore lighthouse on Instagram. They posted a picture of their three1100:01:36,920 --> 00:01:44,520and a half order Fresnel lens there by valve back in the lantern room of the lighthouse. The old1200:01:44,520 --> 00:01:52,760owl's eye configuration. Very exciting owl's eye. Single owl's eye. That was on Monday November 61300:01:52,760 --> 00:01:58,440at 6 p.m. on the dot. They brought the Fresnel lens back into life in Montauk Point Lighthouse.1400:01:58,440 --> 00:02:05,480Three and a half order. So why is this historical? Because it has been 36 years since this Fresnel1500:02:05,480 --> 00:02:13,000lens was back in the lighthouse. And as far as I know it's not a thing for the Coast Guard to put1600:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,160a Fresnel lens back up in a lantern room when they have cheaper less expensive options to1700:02:19,160 --> 00:02:25,560maintain that which originally there was an arrow beacon in this lantern room but it was so dull1800:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,720that Mia Sertik who's the executive director of the Montauk Historical Society who owns and1900:02:31,720 --> 00:02:39,240maintains this lighthouse. She said that the main light, the beacon in this lighthouse was2000:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,880dimmer than just like the lights outside the lighthouse like lamps and stuff. Geez. Yeah.2100:02:45,880 --> 00:02:51,880This lens was manufactured specifically for Montauk Point Lighthouse hence the special size and shape2200:02:51,880 --> 00:02:57,720which we talk about a lot in our episode devoted to the Montauk Point Lighthouse. They made this in2300:02:57,720 --> 00:03:04,4401902 and it was in service from 1903 until 1987 when the Coast Guard installed the arrow beacon.2400:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,400So the return of the Fresnel lens is part of a two-year pilot program to help the Coast Guard2500:03:09,400 --> 00:03:16,840gather data about Fresnel lenses quote operation and condition in an environmentally controlled2600:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,800lantern room and this is from an article they published on Tuesday in the United States Coast2700:03:21,800 --> 00:03:27,400Guard News. They also said quote this pilot program aims to quantify and document standards2800:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,120of care required to maintain operating Fresnel lenses and to establish appropriate plans of2900:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,160action for the remaining Fresnels operating across the Coast Guard. For the next two years the Coast3000:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,680Guard will partner with MHS to ensure proper care of the Fresnel lens and lantern room environmental3100:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,760data monitoring end quote. So basically they're doing this because there are still about 503200:03:48,760 --> 00:03:55,480Fresnel lenses still in service and they want to see the best ways to care for a Fresnel lens3300:03:55,480 --> 00:04:01,080in like a very controlled environment. So like if everything's in perfect condition like if we3400:04:01,080 --> 00:04:07,880install these things how can we best care for Fresnel lenses so that they can remain in service3500:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,240without having to be replaced. And this is the Coast Guard's being trained or okay? Yeah exactly.3600:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,600And the Coast Guard is maintaining the light at Montauk Point Lighthouse but only the light? Yes3700:04:18,600 --> 00:04:25,320only the beacon and the rest of it's all the Montauk Historical Society. Nice is this one I3800:04:25,320 --> 00:04:31,080can't remember on Montauk is it accessible this lantern room? Accessible? Yeah to public or is it3900:04:31,080 --> 00:04:37,000probably not? I doubt you could go inside I think that was part of the part of the sadness of me4000:04:37,000 --> 00:04:44,360finding this out is that you can't go and you know admire the handiwork of the Fresnel lens up close4100:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,880anymore it's no longer like a public thing because originally it was in the museum at Montauk Point4200:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,920where you could go and check it out. Yeah and is this a new lens that they installed or is this a4300:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,800refurbished one they had they're really this is the one that was in the museum yeah they just took4400:04:59,800 --> 00:05:05,000out of the museum isn't that so cool? That's so cool. I know 36 years it was down there and then4500:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,920they were just like let's clean it up so they had to do a lot of work to prep the Fresnel lens for4600:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,400going back in a service but because right now there's only five Coast Guard lampists that can4700:05:15,400 --> 00:05:22,520care for Fresnel lenses. That is wild. Yeah so Mia Sercic said that the restoration and renovation4800:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,240of the lighthouse that we recently talked about served to prepare for this as the tower was4900:05:27,240 --> 00:05:33,720weakened by water damage which would have made supporting this extremely heavy Fresnel lens5000:05:33,720 --> 00:05:41,000pretty dangerous in the lighthouse so she said that they weren't um what's the word like approved5100:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,440yet to be part of this project but they still kept it in mind as they were renovating the lighthouse5200:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,640just in case it was approved and they could go ahead with it. Right keep it as an option. So they5300:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,600had to prepare the lantern room for the optimum conditions for the lens such as UV light filtering5400:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,480window film a new ventilation system and state-of-the-art temperature humidity and dewpoint5500:06:01,480 --> 00:06:08,360monitors and they also had to they had to like refurbish the lens as well they had to5600:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,920give it a new pedestal and all the mercury had to be removed from its base because originally it was5700:06:12,920 --> 00:06:19,320on a mercury float system. Yeah. And I think that may have been true for when it was in the museum5800:06:19,320 --> 00:06:25,560they had it in a mercury float system so you could watch what was happening up close but I also feel5900:06:25,560 --> 00:06:31,160like that would be such a safety hazard that maybe I don't know. I think mercury is safe as long as6000:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,760you don't physically contact it. Yeah. Or ingest it. I just wouldn't trust the public to not try to touch it.6100:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,200But maybe it was closed off in some way I don't know I just oh my god they said that they had6200:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,400to actively go and remove like make sure that all the mercury was removed so remediation. Yeah so6300:06:47,400 --> 00:06:53,800maybe that's either from when it was used you know almost four decades ago or maybe it was hey we6400:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,440just took it out of this float system we're gonna have to clean it out. I would like to learn more6500:06:58,440 --> 00:07:04,600about that because I think that you know like mercury as a liquid bed I'd like to see how that6600:07:04,600 --> 00:07:11,720worked but also today we have like like Delrin. Are you familiar with Delrin? No. So Delrin is a6700:07:11,720 --> 00:07:17,480I'm pretty sure it's a product of Dow Chemical so they make a lot of cool stuff or like 3M one of6800:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,200those companies chemical companies that makes a bunch of different products but Delrin is a plastic6900:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,200that I didn't learn about until I worked on my senior design project but it's like a super slick7000:07:28,200 --> 00:07:34,840plastic. Oh. It's used in like assembly lines and high use areas like where you're producing7100:07:34,840 --> 00:07:41,880something you have a contact where you need to contact a product or something where it's7200:07:42,440 --> 00:07:48,760it's plastic but it's like a lubricated surface permanently. Very slippery. Yeah just do I think7300:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,320it's a polymer technically so due to the due to the properties of the material itself lubricates7400:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,920yeah without a film without oil without graphite you know the other types of lubrication so. That's7500:07:58,920 --> 00:08:05,160interesting. I'm surprised there's not been some type of I'm sure there is some type of joint or7600:08:06,280 --> 00:08:12,920bushing or a bearing I guess is the word I'm looking for. That's not mercury based I'm sure7700:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,440there are but I don't know what that technology is today. Does it have a high like can it handle7800:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,800lots of weight on it or. I think there are there's definitely limits to each application. Yeah maybe7900:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,480that's what's holding them back because I know these are very very heavy tons. But this is well8000:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,680this is probably the most modern beacon in the United States then. I mean if they're talking8100:08:34,680 --> 00:08:42,200about ventilation systems moisture control the glass conditioning I mean that's it's literally8200:08:42,200 --> 00:08:48,040probably the newest one. Yeah. It's interesting. They had to restore the lens and have it cleaned8300:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,880by Jim Woodward and a new pedestal and gear mechanism was built by Kurt Fosberg both from8400:08:53,880 --> 00:09:00,360the five qualified lampists that I mentioned earlier. Talk to them. Yeah. We heard about Kurt8500:09:00,360 --> 00:09:07,640Fosberg a while ago from Carl Lindquist and Fred Stonehouse. They mentioned that that's someone8600:09:07,640 --> 00:09:14,360that we should probably talk to and Kurt was also was a cult. He was a technical director or something8700:09:14,360 --> 00:09:20,520to do with Fresnel lenses in the movie The Lighthouse with Robert. Oh that's right. He was the advisor.8800:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,880I don't know the title. I know I can't remember what it was but we found him on the scrolling list8900:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,000of names at the end of the credits. Do we talk to him. I can't remember. We haven't. No. We'll need9000:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,280to reach out. We need to check in with all of our contacts. I know. Quite a community we need to9100:09:34,280 --> 00:09:39,480keep up with. That would be a cool episode talking about how he what he does as his job as a lampist9200:09:39,480 --> 00:09:45,560for the Coast Guard. That would be awesome. But anyway so after the program Mia Sertic and the9300:09:45,560 --> 00:09:50,120people of Montauk are hoping the lens will stay there for good. But for now it's just kind of a9400:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,120two year plan and after that they don't really know what's going to happen. But hoping it'll9500:09:54,680 --> 00:09:59,320get to remain up there forever. So it's a kind of a temporary training program. Yes. With the9600:09:59,320 --> 00:10:05,240possibility of extending. That's cool. I think it's interesting they can't or in this at least in9700:10:05,240 --> 00:10:11,400this instance the arrow beacon wasn't as bright as they needed. Yeah. Especially given sound. I'm9800:10:11,400 --> 00:10:17,800guessing now but other LED technology the lights you know streetlights and area lights around the9900:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,520tower were even more impressive than it is crazy. You can't you like you cannot replicate the power10000:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,800of a Fresnel lens like you either have to be OK with taking the cut to the light. You know you're10100:10:27,800 --> 00:10:35,480you're what's it called. Your beacon is light. Oh the intensity. Yeah light intensity luminosity.10200:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,120Making words up now. Well I'm working on a project luminous intensity. I think that's actually what10300:10:42,120 --> 00:10:49,560it is. Yeah luminosity. Sounds like the Illuminati. But you either have to take that with your you10400:10:49,560 --> 00:10:55,400know your lower amount of maintenance or you just have to have a Fresnel lens. There's no better way.10500:10:55,400 --> 00:11:01,960Yeah. I'm working on a project. I won't say where it's at but it's a medical health care facility.10600:11:02,760 --> 00:11:10,280And I'm helping to design the plumbing HVAC parts of it. So you know but there are boilers in this10700:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,640very large building and the boilers have a stack. So the stack is effectively a tower. The tower goes10800:11:15,640 --> 00:11:23,000up 170 roughly 170 feet in the air maybe 200 feet. And we've talked about the team has talked10900:11:23,000 --> 00:11:31,320about how do you add a light to the top of the tower because you need some way for you know11000:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,440medical helicopters or other aircraft. Be aware. I think it's an FAA regulation and there's other11100:11:36,440 --> 00:11:42,040people looking into it that are not not me not my scope of work. But it makes me smile. It's like oh11200:11:42,040 --> 00:11:48,200you have a big tower. You want to put a light on top. I've got an idea. Suggestive Fresnel. Yeah.11300:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,400It's not the cheapest. Yeah. Well it requires a lot of maintenance. And then they also this conversation11400:11:53,400 --> 00:11:59,160also went in. I didn't chime in. I should have just for chuckles. But well we have to have we11500:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,000have to have access for someone to be able to change a light bulb if we put an electronic light11600:12:03,000 --> 00:12:09,240up there. It's like yep you sure do. You would need like a stair tower. Yeah. You should do like11700:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,200a winding staircase. So it made me smile. But there's lots of it's funny that it's still a11800:12:14,200 --> 00:12:19,160a challenge even though. Yeah. Right. Totally different than the lighthouse. Yeah. Still relevant.11900:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,640But yeah that was my history boy. I think that this is like a very big step but like an important12000:12:23,640 --> 00:12:29,720thing in lighthouse history that we're putting Fresnel lenses back into service man. Yeah. It12100:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,400could be big news if I mean the one is big news but it could be big news if this is continued over12200:12:35,400 --> 00:12:41,000the next couple of years. Yeah. I'm sure it won't be a big wave of new lenses because this is just12300:12:41,000 --> 00:12:48,120for like a pilot program but very cool. So you talk to me once on an episode about the production12400:12:48,120 --> 00:12:55,720of Fresnel lenses mostly in France. I we didn't post that episode. So I'll have to redo that12500:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,280history so that people can actually. I thought it was really interesting. Yeah. It was a long one.12600:13:00,280 --> 00:13:05,480It was a long history but I think that's a good one I need to bring back. I think it was so long12700:13:05,480 --> 00:13:11,560and so labor intensive that I think it should be its own standalone. Yeah. Well it's yeah they're12800:13:11,560 --> 00:13:18,920very interesting to me. It's not a common piece of technology and it's the history that I remember is12900:13:20,440 --> 00:13:28,360a lot of technology changes over time. I've come into the same product. Yeah. And also you know13000:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,800the demand obviously has changed. So that's probably changed industry too. Yeah that's true. So to get13100:13:33,800 --> 00:13:41,800a new or to restore Fresnel lens these lampists that sounds really unique as well as shipping13200:13:41,800 --> 00:13:48,440that thing. Oh my gosh. Can you imagine the bubble wrap. Oh so much bubble wrap. So much foam styrofoam.13300:13:49,240 --> 00:13:55,400So yeah. Well cool. Good good history. Everyone go check out MTK underscore lighthouse on Instagram13400:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,880and you can see the Fresnel lens for yourself back in the Lantern Room. They have an excellent13500:13:59,880 --> 00:14:05,160photo of it. I think it looks like in the morning or something and it's rainbow. All the all the13600:14:05,160 --> 00:14:12,760prisms are lit up. It's gorgeous. Really nice. Very cool. So we're going to move on to our13700:14:12,760 --> 00:14:20,280lighthouse of the day and actually it's Lighthouses. Oh. A special episode. All right. Of multiple13800:14:20,280 --> 00:14:26,120lighthouses. It's still in service not like they kept having to. Yeah not one after another. Yeah they didn't have to keep13900:14:26,120 --> 00:14:32,200having. They did. There is a lot of action going on in this episode when it comes to lighthouses. So14000:14:32,200 --> 00:14:38,920we're going to Grand Haven Michigan on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan. Okay. And it's known for its14100:14:38,920 --> 00:14:48,040sandy beaches and beautiful lighthouses. The city was founded in 1834 and was named Grand Haven in14200:14:48,040 --> 00:14:54,600recognition of its safe and spacious harbor which I thought was cute. Let's name it a haven. A grand one.14300:14:54,600 --> 00:15:00,760Yeah a grand haven. Only a couple of years later a lighthouse was suggested for a couple of reasons.14400:15:00,760 --> 00:15:06,040One being the river was the largest by far that emptied into Lake Michigan. So it's going to be a hubbub14500:15:06,920 --> 00:15:12,200and it was the only place on the east shore that large vessels could shelter from bad weather. So14600:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,720they needed it to be well represented with lighthouses. I'm surprised they didn't call it14700:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,520Great Haven. Well we were talking about the 1800s. Great wasn't. Do they call them the Great Lakes?14800:15:22,520 --> 00:15:31,240Or they're the Grand Lakes at the time. Think about it. You got me there. Maybe because it was the Great Lakes14900:15:31,240 --> 00:15:37,240they didn't want to name it Great Haven. They wanted to be special. Grand Haven. Grand is better than15000:15:37,240 --> 00:15:44,680great. Great Grand Wonderful. That's what they say. Who says that? It's a line from Billy Madison. Oh.15100:15:46,120 --> 00:15:51,640I was like what? So anyway the dwelling in the tower were made of stone from Green Bay while the stone steps15200:15:51,640 --> 00:15:58,440were from Cleveland. I don't know why they specified the different types of stones.15300:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,920The stairs were fancy and the rest of it wasn't. I'm not sure. I don't know. It was lit in 1839.15400:16:04,920 --> 00:16:11,320It's 30 feet tall with a fixed white light and was right there on the beach which is not the best idea.15500:16:11,320 --> 00:16:19,640It's beautiful but technically not a good idea. Very scenic but you know not for very long. They built a timber wall to help15600:16:19,640 --> 00:16:25,800try and protect the property from the waves which if you have to build a wall to protect something15700:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,960that you built there in the first place. Out of timber. Yeah then maybe you should have thought about that.15800:16:34,280 --> 00:16:41,160But in 1852 storm waves broke down this wall and pummeled the lighthouse and it was brought down the next day15900:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,080by all the water. So it took another two years before they started to work on making a replacement and16000:16:47,080 --> 00:16:52,440this time they learned from their mistakes and built the lighthouse on a bluff above the old location16100:16:52,440 --> 00:16:59,080which is just like a little cliff and they finished in 1855. I have a little photo. Oh cool.16200:17:01,160 --> 00:17:08,040Wow. It's an old one. A lot of these pictures are actually from the US LHS. They're archives. I have a link to16300:17:08,040 --> 00:17:16,280it was basically a huge word document that had a bunch of historical documents and then the next16400:17:16,280 --> 00:17:22,040was like their plans for restoring these lighthouses that I'll talk about and all the phases of16500:17:22,760 --> 00:17:29,320all the phases. This is a picture of the one that was on the bluff. They called it upper lighthouse which16600:17:30,840 --> 00:17:37,000is going to be relevant. It was 24 feet tall. It was made of rubble stone and had a circular tower connected to a16700:17:37,000 --> 00:17:45,000six room one and a half story dwelling. I think that maybe the half like nowadays if you have a half16800:17:45,960 --> 00:17:54,120half level it's like what a half a half level on the other side of the building.16900:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,280Well but that's just like an attic or something right like a17000:18:02,280 --> 00:18:09,080like a half level it's like you have a loft or something. Okay that must have been what it was but six rooms. That's pretty good.17100:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,680In the lantern room they had a bullseye panel and this was cool a bullseye panel revolving around a fixed17200:18:14,680 --> 00:18:20,120fourth order lens to produce a white flash every 90 seconds. So we've talked about it once before but17300:18:20,120 --> 00:18:24,840I've never covered a lighthouse that actually had it standalone in the lighthouse room.17400:18:24,840 --> 00:18:34,200But it's like a singular bullseye panel and then attached to it is a bunch of just like metal17500:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,880sheeting and it goes around the lantern so that everything is covered except for this one17600:18:39,880 --> 00:18:46,040bullseye lens. There's no image we have of that. No it's unfortunate but no. It's too long ago. I'm17700:18:46,040 --> 00:18:53,000shocked that they even had a photo. They took it in the 1880s which is like really early on in photos.17800:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,280I was just gonna say I've got to be picky. How much effort went into taking this photo right?17900:18:58,280 --> 00:19:04,520You know you like load up the little flash thing and set up your little tunnel and they took it18000:19:04,520 --> 00:19:11,560with the trees blocking 90% of the landscape. They wanted to get the whole lighthouse in there.18100:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,120If they took okay they didn't do it from a boat I guess but that way yeah maybe they couldn't.18200:19:16,120 --> 00:19:25,960I think this is probably the best they could do with their modern technology. Unmodern. Anyway18300:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,600people should go check out our YouTube and you can see this picture. It's not that bad.18400:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,560Taking it in the 1880s. Vince is really being picky. It was raised another four feet and got a new18500:19:35,560 --> 00:19:43,240lantern room in 1868 and this lighthouse is just gonna kind of chill here for the next 40ish years.18600:19:43,240 --> 00:19:50,360So this is 1868. This is yeah. Because it's 1880s is the photo. New lantern room raised four feet.18700:19:50,360 --> 00:19:56,680So this lighthouse we're gonna talk about it just barely anymore. The rest of this episode18800:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,880yeah is about the other lighthouses that are built. So in 1858 the Detroit and Milwaukee18900:20:01,880 --> 00:20:07,480railroad established a ferry line to Grand Haven from Detroit and so they added a pier so that they19000:20:07,480 --> 00:20:17,000could you know they added a pier. For the ferry. Yeah and they maintained their own light on it.19100:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,720It was small and it was discontinued pretty soon after because the pier was so long that they19200:20:23,720 --> 00:20:29,160didn't really know like the pier was so far out there that they couldn't maintain the light.19300:20:29,800 --> 00:20:37,000You have to have someone walk out on the pier and as you know Lake Michigan. Pretty wild. Yeah19400:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,920so it was very difficult to go out there and maintain it so they eventually discontinued it.19500:20:40,920 --> 00:20:47,320This is where I started to really struggle with keeping track of all of these lighthouses and19600:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,480like all these faces and I skipped a couple of things that were just too confusing for me to19700:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,360figure out. Everybody okay this is like that game where you hide something under a cup and you19800:20:57,080 --> 00:21:03,000Michelle game. Mix them all around and trying to guess like it's like there's a light but all of19900:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,960a sudden now there isn't a light but now there's three lights and you switch two of them around20000:21:07,960 --> 00:21:14,840and one was white and now it's red like it's almost like you got gas lit all of what20100:21:17,720 --> 00:21:23,160I'm just saying that researching these lighthouses was very very difficult and20200:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,080if I'm not totally correct someone who knows should let me know but like our well our trusted20300:21:29,080 --> 00:21:37,240resources US LHS the website for this lighthouse and lighthouse friends all had information that20400:21:37,240 --> 00:21:43,960was different from each other. Oh contradicting. Yes or like the lighthouse friends had it had one20500:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,600paragraph that was very confusing I just ignored it eventually because I was like I can't find20600:21:48,600 --> 00:21:55,160anything that substantiates this information and it doesn't make sense to me so I just anyway.20700:21:55,160 --> 00:22:01,960So let's put a big asterisk this is I think that's how do you pronounce it asterisk asterisk20800:22:01,960 --> 00:22:08,280the asterisk is that right asterisk asterisk we'll put a big one of those20900:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,480and say this is your best interpretation. Yes this is my interpretation of the history21000:22:13,480 --> 00:22:19,480of the Grand Haven Lighthouses. Gotcha. So in 1870 the lighthouse board requested eight thousand21100:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,960dollars for a new wooden tower 1200 feet of elevated walkway on this existing pier and a bell.21200:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,440So this was their solution to not being able to access the lighthouse as they put an elevated21300:22:30,440 --> 00:22:36,600walkway on top of the pier so that when waves are crashing down below and I'll show a picture of this21400:22:36,600 --> 00:22:42,840at the end they would still be able to just walk above the waves and go to light so it was originally21500:22:42,840 --> 00:22:49,400made of wood eventually they changed it to iron I think. Sounds so sketchy. I know like21600:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,120you better make sure and they had a ton of this elevated walkway had lakes every like couple of21700:22:54,120 --> 00:22:59,880feet so if something was damaged there was no way it was all going to be taken out at the same time.21800:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,600Yeah but it's attached to the pier right? Yeah but the pier is made of stone it wasn't like oh okay21900:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,800yeah it was like um it went down to the to the the bottom of the yeah the bottom of the lake.22000:23:09,800 --> 00:23:17,000I sorry I've got it uh asterisk asterisk that was a weird voice I don't like that.22100:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,640A couple years later well here let me show a photo. Oh cool. So here is their original boat. Yeah22200:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,040super cool boat but this was their original lights just like a little lamp has some legs on it and22300:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,880you can see in this picture the elevated walkway coming off the top. That is terrifying. What?22400:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,520Imagine the the pier is just engulfed in flames and there's rolling22500:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,840coffee's getting a little strong engulfed in water yeah and the waves are just rolling over it and22600:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,880you got to go tend to the light you're just walking like that would be a little sketchy for the waves22700:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,440and there's nothing keeping like water spray you'd be soaking wet by the time you got over there22800:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,240but you'd have an awesome trench coat oh yeah they probably have like all their galoshes and stuff22900:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,400in 18 okay so that was in 1870 a couple years later they built a fog signal building which was23000:24:07,400 --> 00:24:15,960installed directly behind this pier headlight wow so look at those horns so cool yeah so that's23100:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,960it's a pretty big fog house going on there i think they took a lot of effort to make steam at those23200:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,760days yeah and they had to make sure that was really sturdy because if they had to build a walkway23300:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,000which you could walk above the waves well you got to build that thing so that waves can hit it23400:24:31,000 --> 00:24:37,640without destroying it wow in like during the 1880s this pier was lengthened like every couple of23500:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,920years which ended up moving the light in the fog house like further and further out into the lake23600:24:42,920 --> 00:24:50,840and in december 1886 there was this huge storm that forced the light back 12 feet and crunched23700:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,280like crushed this walkway behind it and damaged the fog house a little bit so the building the23800:24:56,280 --> 00:25:02,200pier floats is they extended it out and you're saying these buildings moved out but it could23900:25:02,200 --> 00:25:08,920have detached from the pier and like damaged the walkway or something i don't know why would they24000:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,640have a pier why would it float i thought here's a definition of a pier like a structural pier24100:25:13,640 --> 00:25:19,800is that it's a column that goes down to bedrock so i always thought like a water pier is defined24200:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,560as a pier because it has legs that go down to the bottom of them so piers are fixed piling24300:25:25,560 --> 00:25:31,000supported structures oh piling is what i'm thinking of didn't float the component the vertical24400:25:31,000 --> 00:25:37,640components yes so the pier is on piles so they move these buildings okay sorry i got i got hooked24500:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,680on that yeah so yeah so you'd have to be moved them several times yeah and then there was some24600:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,960damage from a big storm but both survived they just had to do a lot of maintenance and24700:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,840reconstructing after that 1892 we're going back to the bluff lighthouse the 1855 bluff lighthouse24800:25:54,840 --> 00:26:00,680gained a second rotating bullseye which changed the flash pattern to every 60 seconds instead of24900:26:00,680 --> 00:26:08,28090 seconds so they probably slowed the rotation a little bit yeah slowed their roll and added25000:26:08,280 --> 00:26:14,040another bullseye lens and so if you could maybe you don't know this so at that point you have25100:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,920on the bluff every 60 seconds white flash what was this light signature on the end of the pier25200:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,400fixed white okay so you'd want to go to the fixed white yeah and the double flash is you know where25300:26:25,400 --> 00:26:33,960the earth was yeah where you would find land in 1894 an elevated conduit was added so the light on25400:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,400the pier could be controlled from the bluff lighthouse so you wouldn't have to walk all25500:26:39,400 --> 00:26:46,600the way out here to turn on the light yeah which 1894 electronic yeah okay i mean okay i have to25600:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,520review my history of i know i always think that sounds really early technology okay no no it's25700:26:52,520 --> 00:26:59,880believable 18 1876 was when they invented a generator so you could produce a steady current25800:26:59,880 --> 00:27:06,920of electricity okay so 20 years later yeah checks out yeah it isn't until i'm speaking25900:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,520on the on the podcast that i sometimes question the things that i've written down26000:27:12,520 --> 00:27:19,240i'm like that's what they said 20 years ago we had the motorola laser now we've got iphone 1526100:27:19,240 --> 00:27:28,840with titanium is this an ad i wish in 1904 so this there was some information in between this 1926200:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,520sorry 1894 and 1904 that i skipped over because it was very confusing didn't seem26300:27:35,080 --> 00:27:41,800quite correct so in 1904 a 52 foot cast iron cylindrical tower was built on a concrete foundation26400:27:42,360 --> 00:27:46,680on the outer edge of the pier which then took the fresnel lens from the bluff lighthouse26500:27:46,680 --> 00:27:54,440rendering it discontinued so we ditch the bluff lighthouse for a cylindrical tower so now we have26600:27:54,440 --> 00:28:01,640two lights on the pier and none on land why because they wanted to do range lights which we talked26700:28:01,640 --> 00:28:07,720about one of our previous episodes so these lighthouses when they when the lights line up26800:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,120on top of one another then you're you know you're heading in the correct direction to enter the pier26900:28:12,120 --> 00:28:18,760or enter the harbor cool yeah in 1910 the tower portion of the bluff lighthouse was demolished27000:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,440and replaced with more housing which served as the keeper's house for these two lighthouses until27100:28:24,440 --> 00:28:30,280the coast guard took over and it was sold in an auction in the 50s and i read it is now apartments27200:28:30,280 --> 00:28:36,120it's like apartment cool yeah is the pier still there yes that's the lighthouses that still exist27300:28:36,120 --> 00:28:41,800today awesome are these two lighthouses but sorry go ahead is the pier in service like is27400:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,600the detroit ferry still going oh i don't know i would think so probably there's still a ferry27500:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,200line on google maps heading into this harbor so i don't know if it's still the same one but27600:28:53,000 --> 00:28:59,160in 1906 the new cylindrical tower was moved from the pier head to the inner light position27700:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,280and the foghorn building was moved to the pier head position so they just swapped places short27800:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,240ones in front of the tall one so now the short ones in front of the tall one which makes a lot27900:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,840more sense and this was only this was only a couple years after they built the cylindrical28000:29:10,840 --> 00:29:17,160ones so they're probably like oh can you imagine getting the paperwork like you didn't think of28100:29:17,160 --> 00:29:23,480this like how can we possibly have a range light one of them's hidden behind the other one doing28200:29:23,480 --> 00:29:29,800the same job five years later oh my gosh yeah the range light is like if the short light disappears28300:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,520but you still see the tall one yeah you might be in line it's pretty much pretty it's pretty good28400:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,440you might be lined up you're mostly at least going in the right direction cool look at that28500:29:40,440 --> 00:29:46,200horn this was so when they moved the when they swapped the two towers they added a lantern room28600:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,840and a gallery to the lake facing end of the foghorn building so that smaller one is gone28700:29:52,840 --> 00:29:58,280the smaller one that's in front and they turned the foghorn building into its own lighthouse28800:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,560making this an integral lighthouse i have never seen this type of layout before yeah isn't that28900:30:03,560 --> 00:30:10,280fun an integral lighthouse with the foghorn which looks like an awesome trumpet yeah like a war29000:30:10,280 --> 00:30:17,560horn and uh on a pier this is extremely unique it's pretty neat cool war one was about to kick29100:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,640off oh really i think so i didn't have any history on if anything happened to these i mean they're29200:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,520on the great lake so it's you won't have to turn them off for right facing out to sea or anything29300:30:28,520 --> 00:30:37,560yeah i wonder how war affects inland lighthouses i think probably the same way after some status29400:30:37,560 --> 00:30:43,640changes yeah some deathcon yeah i mean the civil war is different the civil war probably affected29500:30:43,640 --> 00:30:50,840all of them true because it was all inland and coastal but this is very north so i doubt there's29600:30:50,840 --> 00:30:57,640really anything going on so this so this foghorn lighthouse that's now like our integral lighthouse29700:30:57,640 --> 00:31:04,200became the grand haven south pierhead outer light and was given a sixth order for now lens29800:31:04,200 --> 00:31:11,960fixed red very cool and the grand haven south pierhead inner light which is our tall cylindrical29900:31:11,960 --> 00:31:17,960tower kept its fourth order lens with one white flash every 60 seconds so like i said these worked30000:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,200as range lights so if they were lined up then you were entering the harbor correctly and you'd want30100:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,000to go towards well the red one to start and then you'd line them up to make sure you're and there's30200:31:27,000 --> 00:31:33,720some crazy curve to this pier um all i think i think it might be the next picture but uh there's30300:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,760this curve to the pier which shows how they had to maneuver things so that when you looked at the30400:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,560lights on top of each other it was the correct it wasn't like you can just put them anywhere and so30500:31:44,120 --> 00:31:53,000interesting oh this is a picture there's a north pier which has a little light on it i don't mention30600:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,040it since the south was already so confusing i didn't look deep into they didn't really mention30700:31:58,040 --> 00:32:04,840it because this little lighthouse on the end of the north pier isn't a part of this collection30800:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,080going on yeah i didn't mention it but this is a good picture of showing the north and south30900:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,720piers you can see all three lighthouses and you can see some people standing on it that's awesome31000:32:13,720 --> 00:32:21,640it is public so you can walk up and down these piers that is a big ship as well yeah there's a31100:32:21,640 --> 00:32:29,000couple of pictures actually a lot of photos of big ships and like barges and stuff right next to that31200:32:29,000 --> 00:32:36,760lighthouse at the end so i mean it's over a thousand feet out into the water so cool in 191731300:32:37,320 --> 00:32:45,080the inner lighthouse so our tower our tower changed from white to red and the outer light31400:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,440changed from red to white so they're really keeping these yes captains on their toes i know so then31500:32:50,440 --> 00:32:56,520they painted the buildings to match their lights so the outer one was white and the inner one was31600:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,760red cool and nowadays they're both red and both the lights are red so at some point i couldn't31700:33:02,760 --> 00:33:09,560find exactly when the outer light changed to a red lantern and they also paint they painted it red31800:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,440and they're really bright too we're going crazy with red lighthouses lately if you look at our31900:33:14,440 --> 00:33:20,440instagram it's just like red red red marquette the youtube cover on marquette i really like that one32000:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,400yeah yeah i'm just helping you out so that your youtube covers are nice that's what we're all32100:33:25,400 --> 00:33:32,120about so nowadays uh the inner light is an occulting red for four seconds so you have a32200:33:32,120 --> 00:33:38,040dark flash basically yeah in a red light every four seconds and the outer is a flash of red32300:33:38,040 --> 00:33:45,560every 10 seconds it's pretty cool also this is unrelated but the us lhs has updated their website32400:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,560yeah i don't know how recent it was but i i opened it and when it was immediately like whoa it's32500:33:51,560 --> 00:33:57,240updated and it's much easier to navigate now because originally i had a really hard time32600:33:57,240 --> 00:34:03,320every single time no matter how many times i did it i had a hard time finding um research material32700:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,680like they have their research material in a specific spot it's like the archives or the light lists or32800:34:08,680 --> 00:34:14,200something you know and it was very difficult to navigate through the website to get to those32900:34:14,200 --> 00:34:19,400because it's not like it wasn't just like a drop down where you click lightless or click research33000:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,800there was nothing like that so you had to do some serious digging into the website but now they have33100:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,680a drop down menu where you can just click on lightless just they just made research so much easier33200:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,360nice that's good yeah so i don't really know when that happened but something i noticed and they have33300:34:34,360 --> 00:34:42,200a if you go to the lightless they have a simulation of each lighthouse flash pattern now so you can33400:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,440if you don't know what a colting red four seconds is then you can click on it and it'll show you33500:34:46,440 --> 00:34:53,320exactly what it looks like us lhs is getting fancy i know look at them it's so much fun i really33600:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,120enjoyed looking through their new websites nice everyone should go check it out us lhs.org33700:34:58,120 --> 00:35:09,480us lhs.org well cool all right 1922 a reinforced concrete structure was added underneath the33800:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,680outer light and it was shaped like the bow of a ship so it took the heat off the waves that would33900:35:14,680 --> 00:35:22,040like hit the outer light from the front very very neat cool i have a picture i've never seen that34000:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,880on a on a pier look at it wow isn't that cool that's not what i was picturing i was picturing34100:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,680like in the water oh yeah that's what i thought originally too but there's there's something must34200:35:32,680 --> 00:35:38,520get pummeled it yeah anytime i mean if you look at it the water level when it's calm is just one34300:35:38,520 --> 00:35:44,040feet below the pier so any sort of wave action is going to be hitting these lighthouses and34400:35:45,240 --> 00:35:51,560i don't know when this when this photo was taken but the that concrete blocking has been beat34500:35:51,560 --> 00:35:58,040yeah like a rag i know like and even the top part of this concrete structure is like crumbling the34600:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,160top part it's been impacted isn't that crazy wonder if it's some ice remember we talked about um34700:36:04,120 --> 00:36:10,200was it standard rock yeah standard rock and the ice impacting the tower and the structure on that34800:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,520like it would form sheets and then these sheets would get pushed against the lighthouse and that's34900:36:14,520 --> 00:36:20,040what like broke through the side of the lighthouse one year so sketchy that crazy so yeah it's for35000:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,320storm waves and also for like you said for ice sheets coming in and trying to beat up the35100:36:25,320 --> 00:36:32,200lighthouse so so this new structure kind of breaks any force coming towards our cylindrical tower35200:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,760so it kind of dissipates that energy that otherwise probably would have also damaged the35300:36:36,760 --> 00:36:43,160cylindrical so our outer light here has gotten a shield and got little porthole windows and yeah35400:36:43,720 --> 00:36:48,760it's so cool i want to go inside so bad it's such a neat little lighthouse on the end there very35500:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,920special being awesome airbnb that's what i'm saying at the same time that they added this35600:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,280concrete structure they also replaced the wooden cat walk with a cast iron one so the one you've35700:37:00,280 --> 00:37:07,080seen this picture is also cast okay wow the um so this is the north pier we're looking at in the35800:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,040south pier oh so south pier north pier is further from us so it looks like they make a channel that35900:37:12,040 --> 00:37:18,600goes into town that makes sense into the haven and originally when they they said that they wanted36000:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,480to have these lighthouses it was some some guy who suggested they do a lighthouse probably part of36100:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,160the lighthouse board but he said the only change you would need to make like like everything's set36200:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,080up perfectly but the only change you'd need is to straighten the harbor so they had to like chip away36300:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,280at the edges to make sure that it was a straight entry into the harbor so you can see how perfectly36400:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,320straight it is when you curve in so it's small small boats like we got a pontoon probably a36500:37:45,320 --> 00:37:51,880speedboat out there they have really big ships coming in here i like the red but the same time36600:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,720they did this new catwalk they also covered the foghorn building in metal sheets and i don't really36700:37:57,720 --> 00:38:04,120see it in this picture maybe they did it so well that it looks that's metal that's metal yeah how36800:38:04,120 --> 00:38:13,480do you know um i by the way it is okay we should just move on it's no it's like uh it's like a barn36900:38:13,480 --> 00:38:21,320building like a cleary barn like like tilt up or pull barns don't have metal all over new barns do37000:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,520oh really like cleary is a company they come and they build your barn it's prefabricated metal37100:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,800sheets you and your your companies i can't help it i think of kleenex as tissues you know type37200:38:31,800 --> 00:38:38,360of thing but like um that's hilarious uh like modern barns like a like a shop it's like a metal37300:38:38,360 --> 00:38:44,760shop okay like it's like what you would see like a garage or an outbuilding at a new farm okay those37400:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,280are technically barns they don't really build barns anymore out of wood because it's not cost37500:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,240effective um it'd be a lot of maintaining which is unfortunate the wood ones are awesome yeah37600:38:54,120 --> 00:39:00,600it's that's another subject so i to me this looks like a metal roof and matching metal um siding37700:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,760siding yeah yeah and and they put the they didn't redo it they just put the metal on top of the wood37800:39:06,760 --> 00:39:14,040so it's just cladding yeah yeah so that all all of that happened in 1922 wow yeah that was a long37900:39:14,040 --> 00:39:19,720time ago i'm sure they've done some maintenance since then but i think that concrete that concrete's38000:39:19,720 --> 00:39:26,760from 1922 i bet you it's been redone they i don't know maybe not uh there has to be ongoing38100:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,280maintenance but concrete's pretty difficult they are raising money right now to do some restoration38200:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,640efforts so i'm sure that includes this concrete structure well and cast iron too i don't really38300:39:37,640 --> 00:39:46,040know what else you would use but for that walkway to me iron is pretty corrosive yeah especially i38400:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,720mean it's not it's not technically salt water it's fresh water but still the water exposure it's a38500:39:51,720 --> 00:39:55,080lot of metal they had to put down there probably like what's the cheapest we can do i bet you it38600:39:55,080 --> 00:40:02,760has some thick paint on it yeah yeah but in 1988 they also added lights along the catwalk oh pretty38700:40:02,760 --> 00:40:08,120really nice photo of that and you can see both of the red lantern rooms going on that's very cool38800:40:08,120 --> 00:40:14,200yeah and now we are all the way to 2012 the coast guard handed over the two lighthouses under the38900:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,960national historic lighthouse preservation act of 2000 to the city of grand haven so the grand haven39000:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,240lighthouse conservancy i think is how you pronounce it uh which is a community group was formed to care39100:40:25,240 --> 00:40:30,200for the lights and they are actively raising money to restore these lighthouses love it so here's a39200:40:30,200 --> 00:40:37,640picture of wow some when it's stormy that's the condition of the pier that they have to so this39300:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,680walk this all elevated walkway you can walk out when it's storming and not i mean you get wet but39400:40:42,680 --> 00:40:49,880you wouldn't get washed out honestly it's pretty dangerous yeah i just looking at look at the water39500:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,160breaking on that concrete i know you can you can see it being split in half it's so cool it's so39600:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,320awesome the last picture with the lights i was going to say that's our cover photo yeah i was39700:40:59,320 --> 00:41:06,440like this one's pretty cool too yeah this is a great photo so the inner tower there do you know39800:41:06,440 --> 00:41:12,760is that clad with metal as well probably yeah it's made of cast iron so oh wow yeah it doesn't have39900:41:12,760 --> 00:41:21,000any other dirty boy sturdy boy i think the outer foghorn building is that what it's still called40000:41:21,000 --> 00:41:28,680what you would call it yeah um houses boilers to create steam or i guess compressors probably40100:41:28,680 --> 00:41:34,280today compressed air but that's probably why they have the building there i saw in the40200:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,840one of the really old photos there was two when they had two horns on top yeah they also had um40300:41:40,840 --> 00:41:46,920two stacks it's like a full yeah for the boilers at the time yeah i think it's interesting you have40400:41:47,720 --> 00:41:53,800utility just from an engineering perspective it's there at the horns at the outer light rather than40500:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,800because that's the whole building they have to maintain yeah rather than have you know them on40600:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,040land where right and now those chimneys are no longer useful so they just don't have them40700:42:02,040 --> 00:42:08,840yeah just over time they probably have louvers for airflow that's it cool really cool it's a40800:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,440picture of kind of what winter looks like they had an article about winter on the gray and heaven40900:42:14,440 --> 00:42:20,760lighthouses and yeah this is some precarious walking conditions and there's this guy all the41000:42:20,760 --> 00:42:28,440way i don't want to ruin this for people but that looks a little like a risk to public safety i guess41100:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,880i'm a pansy definitely i mean you have to trust your boots you can't control people but i think41200:42:33,880 --> 00:42:40,360i have another cool picture really pretty look at the front oh my gosh oh you can see that um41300:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,680harbor is doing its job that is really cool water flow like keeping calm water but that just makes41400:42:46,680 --> 00:42:52,040ice pile up pretty easy i've never spent any time up there that looks cold as hell i know i can't41500:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,320imagine it i love that people are still like tons of people still out on this pier yeah even though41600:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,920you know the conditions are so cold i'm surprised the uh and maybe it is but i'm surprised that41700:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,920outer light is not heated for that purpose yeah so it doesn't for defrosting yeah cool that's the41800:43:08,920 --> 00:43:15,480grand haven lighthouses so grand haven um as you said it's on the east coast of lake michigan41900:43:15,480 --> 00:43:23,560yes so across from there is is it west coast is chicago is that right i should know these things42000:43:23,560 --> 00:43:31,400we are a lighthouse podcast by the way uh no chicago is still on the east side wait no way no no42100:43:31,400 --> 00:43:39,080you're right chicago's west coast of lake michigan yeah so across roughly across north south oh we've42200:43:39,080 --> 00:43:45,960got south haven there's also a this also happened there's a south haven pier head lighthouse a south42300:43:45,960 --> 00:43:52,760haven south pier head lighthouse i'm like bro so there's a grand haven south pier head lights and42400:43:53,480 --> 00:44:00,680south haven south i'm like so so what happened is the us lhs confused these lighthouses in a42500:44:00,680 --> 00:44:08,520couple of their photos no way they put south haven south pier head lights in the grand haven42600:44:08,520 --> 00:44:13,720section so that's part partially why i got so confused i'm like what the heck is this lighthouse42700:44:13,720 --> 00:44:19,400that's so funny south haven south haven oh yeah it's a fair size city grand haven oh it's grand42800:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,600rapids is right there that's a big city so and then here we go chicago down here yeah milwaukee's42900:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,480huge grand rapids is big chicago's enormous of course yeah and then green bay is up here this43000:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,200is where they got their stone for the first lighthouse i don't know anything about green bay43100:44:34,200 --> 00:44:41,560i don't either so they is there uh up by mackincaugh or mackinaw is there a crossover there i bet so43200:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,640there's no way they wouldn't have made oh yeah that's a big bridge cool i bet you this island43300:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,480is really blocking lighthouse in there i bet so yep old mackinac point lighthouse there's mcgulpin43400:44:51,480 --> 00:44:59,880point as well gulpin mcgulpin i'm mcgulpin me at mcdonald's oh old mackinac looks awesome four and43500:44:59,880 --> 00:45:07,800a half stars 4.7 let's give it some credit here sorry mcgulpin's cute hanging up 4.7 as well let's43600:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,480go i'm going to be covering these next looks like churches they do cool anyway we'll learn more43700:45:13,480 --> 00:45:20,280about it yeah but uh yeah good job thank you that was a cool one yeah and um we follow an artist on43800:45:20,280 --> 00:45:29,320instagram who draws lighthouses digitally draws lighthouses very simple artwork um which artist43900:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,960is this i can't remember let me see you show me some of their work but yeah i think they only they44000:45:33,960 --> 00:45:40,200may only do michigan lighthouses so let me see if i can find them it's at mitten state lights on44100:45:40,200 --> 00:45:48,200instagram m i t t e n it's a michigan-based artist doing a lighthouse illustration project but44200:45:48,200 --> 00:45:54,440they drew the grand haven state park you know lighthouses oh that's cool yeah it's a simple44300:45:55,240 --> 00:45:59,480representation it's like um they also did i mean this is an insult i mean it as a good thing it's44400:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,520like postcard art yes yeah i think yeah that's definitely they got marquette harbor that's cool44500:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,960too yeah very cute everyone go check them out those would be fun fun prints yeah or backgrounds44600:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,760i really like those yeah grand haven lighthouses very cool look up pictures of them because they're44700:46:14,760 --> 00:46:21,160very picturesque very pretty lots of people seem to hang out around them too yep i want to say thanks44800:46:21,160 --> 00:46:30,040to our like uh i would like to say thank you to our new followers on linkedin yeah we're trying44900:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,200to build our linkedin presence so we can reach out for professional development and kind of be45000:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,960in the circle here the lighthouse people yeah um so we've got a lot of people adding us lately on45100:46:39,960 --> 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