Episode 38 - Marquette Harbor Lighthouse with Susan Hill and Trish Kautz

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Hi, everyone. I'm Emily and I'm Vince.

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And this is the lighthouse lowdown.

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Good timing.

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One of these days, you'll get used to your.

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Oh, that was awesome.

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I'll be the judge of that.

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I was delayed, but the caffeine spit me up.

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No, me pointing aggressively.

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That was the indicator that I was delayed.

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You didn't look ready to be.

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And I was like, excuse me.

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All right. This is a very special episode.

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I don't know why, but.

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We're heading over.

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I'm not I don't have a history, but because

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this may be a long episode, it's a two

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parter that will be smushed into one

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episode. So the first half

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is going to be the history of a lighthouse.

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And then after that, well,

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well, it's a surprise.

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OK. Although it'll be like in the title

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and in the description. So anyway,

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we are heading over to Lake

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Superior, which I don't think we've

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covered a lighthouse on Lake Superior yet,

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have we? Yep.

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What do you mean? Yep.

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We have standard rock.

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Damn it.

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It was a unique thought

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just now that happened to be debunked.

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Standard Rock.

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Go look out.

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Wow. Go look.

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Go listen or watch

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the episode for Standard Rock.

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We have two. Fred Stonehouse and

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Carl Lindquist.

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Yeah. And there's another one where it's

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just us.

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Both are interesting.

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Yeah, I would say so.

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We're going to Marquette, Michigan.

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Nice.

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Have a location on here.

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Pulled up a map just so you can see the

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location on Lake Superior and you can see

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the line there for Canada.

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Right down the middle.

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Yeah. Standard Rock is somewhere

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middle screen.

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Just out in the middle.

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It's like 39 miles offshore.

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Basically like an ocean.

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All right.

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So that's where we are.

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I love Marquette.

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Nice.

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Yeah. Well, we haven't been there.

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We need to.

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We were planning on it, but yeah.

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It's expensive.

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We looked at a couple of things.

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Are you going to talk about the UP200?

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What? UP200?

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UP200?

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I forget.

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I forget something Peninsula.

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Which one?

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Don't remember.

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It's in February.

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I was talking to Fred and Carl.

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They talked about us visiting

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potentially.

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In February, I believe they do a dog

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sledding race.

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Oh, yeah. And I think the end is in

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Marquette of the UP200

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mile race.

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So pretty crazy.

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But look that up.

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That would be cool.

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It'd be hard to fly there in February.

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Yeah, I've not. It'd be hard to drive

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potentially.

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I mean, it's not like we're going to

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have any cancellations anyway

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in 1844 or deposits

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were discovered at Teal Lake, which is

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just west of current day Marquette,

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leading to the very quick development

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of the area and where there's

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development, there is

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Lighthouses.

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Yahoo!

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1850 Congress appointed

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five thousand dollars to build a

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lighthouse on the harbor and they

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built a 26 foot stone

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tower with a matching keepers

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cottage and they were separate.

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So it was just like a lone tower with

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a match. The usual

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but not like what we see today.

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So it's worth mentioning.

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A few years later, they added a sixth

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order fixed Fresnel lens

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and that's

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all I have to say on that.

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What was the first lens?

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I think it was not it wasn't

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Fresnel lens. It was like reflectors.

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OK. Yeah.

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Hang on.

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Those 1850s.

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18. Yeah. 1850.

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OK. I'm just trying to keep it in

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in between the lanes here

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between the navigational.

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Trying to get the the

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chronological order down.

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Vince and I are having coffee again

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today. He's got the froufriest

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floufiest roofie.

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Wait, I didn't get roofie

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did I? The coffee is very

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girly.

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Says on it Emily.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah. I picked it up for you

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like a man.

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Grande shaken espresso

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salted caramel cold foam whole milk

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blonde espresso double two

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pumps classic syrup and one vanilla

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bean scoop powder

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powder.

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I don't know what a lot of those

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things are, but so did you see

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it online and you were like, oh,

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I'll try that.

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No. You just you just shout out to

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Starbucks. Not a sponsor, but

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they just go on their website and

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just go on the menu and then

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click, click, click, click, click.

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So you this was of your own.

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This was your own concoction.

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Yeah. I would never drive through

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and order this.

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I have to say all of these.

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Yeah. Speaking it would be

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a nightmare. Be vile.

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Yeah. So clearly click.

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So anyways, we're drinking coffee.

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Anyway. Yeah. Back to it.

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1861 keeper Nelson,

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I think Truckee is his last name,

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began working at the lighthouse

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as a head keeper and

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immediately needed to go to serve

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in the Civil War.

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So I think he lasted a year and

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then was deployed.

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And his wife, Anastasia,

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who also went by Eliza, took over

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his duties along with

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raising their four young children

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until his return three years later.

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That's crazy. There's actually

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another girl power moment

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well in this in this podcast.

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Good. In this episode.

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Also, it's great that he came back.

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Yeah. And to

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be fair, she is registered

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for those years as the headkeeper.

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So it's not like she just like did

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his work and then didn't get any

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credit. She's a hardworking

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lady. Nice.

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The Stone Lighthouse,

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as we seem to have mentioned a few

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times,

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is not holding up well to the harsh

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winter of being along the lake,

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which is a common problem.

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So in 1865,

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thirteen thousand dollars was

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appointed for, quote, extensive

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renovations.

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Not sure what happened, but

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they just there's no record

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of this anywhere that it was

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authorized to build a new lighthouse.

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It always says renovations and

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like fixing it up.

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But they built a new lighthouse

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and there's no real,

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you know,

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there's no real there's no stamp of

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approval. Exactly.

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That they were going like that.

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They demoed this lighthouse and

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built a new one. Like it doesn't say

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that anywhere. So it's very

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interesting. It's like it was a whole

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new tower.

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Yeah, totally new.

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And now and now it's a yellow brick

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keepers dwelling with an integral

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stair tower square

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tower. It's a nice way to get a new

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house. Yeah.

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So I put a little picture 1904.

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It's really nice.

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I like the way Marquette is written

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on that photo.

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I know it's very fancy and you know,

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it's like someone's handwriting is

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like legitimate.

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There's like an ink quill going on.

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You know, when you read

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like the Declaration of Independence,

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that was just a man writing it.

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It wasn't like a bunch of 30

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year olds go find someone with nice

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handwriting. It's like everyone had

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nice handwriting.

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But it was is it because lots of them

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was it part of like being educated

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is that they made you have nice

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handwriting?

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Oh, I don't think so. I think people

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just took pride in it.

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I don't think people wrote much

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actually.

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I mean, this is all.

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Well, it's all letters and stuff.

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But I don't think you communicate

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with anybody emails.

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What emails today are just it's not

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the same at all.

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But there's just technically you're

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still writing a letter.

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But any communications that were

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written, I think there weren't many.

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So when you left your mark, it was

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significant.

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And I think it was significant that

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you would write a book or a letter

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or sign something like the declaration.

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The person writing it, I don't think

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I don't even know who wrote it.

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Was it John Hancock?

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I want to say it was Thomas Jefferson.

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I should know.

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And I don't know.

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Sorry, American history.

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But I doubt they knew

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like the full

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significance in the future of it.

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At the moment, of course, it was a

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huge it was, you know,

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it was a war declaration.

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Right.

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And it was Thomas Jefferson, by the

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way.

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U.S. history coming in clutch,

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that AP history from high school

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is swimming around in there still.

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I was so good at physics.

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That was it.

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There's another I have something else

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to say in a little bit that is like

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just shows how people used to talk

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so differently in the past

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or at least when they wrote stuff

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down, it would be, you know, when you

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read a letter of correspondence

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of something from

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eighteen hundreds, it's like people

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say like 80 words.

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People say like three times as many

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words as they need to to get a point

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across.

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That's how my family writes.

291
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Yeah, it's nice.

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That's how you talk.

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You're welcome.

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Who knew I'd be a podcast co-host.

295
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But anyway, so they built a new

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lighthouse and

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they added a fourth order for now

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lens. So this sixth order lens,

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I'll talk about what happened to it

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later. Shortly after that, they

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added a steam whistle and an

302
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assistant keeper's position.

303
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OK, because they had room probably.

304
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And this is what I was talking about.

305
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It's a quote from the Mining Gazette

306
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and this was after the steam

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whistle was added to the lighthouse.

308
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It was not people were not a big fan

309
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of the steam whistle.

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It says, quote, sensitive nerves

311
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were tortured again last night

312
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by the dismal tooting of the

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fiendish foghorn.

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This vociferous nuisance

315
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is a necessary evil, to be sure.

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But that consideration doesn't help

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to reconcile those whom it keeps

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from obtaining necessary

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sleep.

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And.

321
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Wow.

322
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Who was quoted?

323
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That was the author, like

324
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just whoever was writing the

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newspaper.

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That was the chair moving.

327
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So that was funny that I

328
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like that. Yeah.

329
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And it's just like the Sifras

330
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complaining about complaining

331
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in the newspaper about a steam

332
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whistle, like just so you know,

333
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everyone thinks it's annoying.

334
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And then like, what else did they

335
00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,920
cover pre Twitter?

336
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Everyone, not everyone, the couple

337
00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,320
of people on a train would read that

338
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and nod their heads.

339
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You'd be drinking their coffee,

340
00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,080
like, you go, I know it

341
00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:12,800
very vociferous.

342
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1875, there was a breakwater

343
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built with light at

344
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the end of it to reduce storm waves

345
00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,200
into the harbor. So it's like, you

346
00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,400
know, Chicago Harbor light?

347
00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,880
Yes. It's at the end of a breakwater.

348
00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,760
So it's basically like they put a

349
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bunch of riprap and concrete and

350
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whatever else in a long

351
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strip across the opening

352
00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,240
of a harbor, which basically just

353
00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,400
keeps waves from building

354
00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,920
up all the way until they hit.

355
00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,120
What I just I have one of these

356
00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,800
I'm going to cover really not too

357
00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,600
distant future.

358
00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,600
Excellent.

359
00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,240
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of

360
00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,480
history about this lighthouse.

361
00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,960
It's called Marquette Breakwater

362
00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,000
Light.

363
00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,280
But I think

364
00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,080
it would be too long to cover

365
00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,480
along in this.

366
00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,280
Is it still there?

367
00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,280
Is the breakwater still there?

368
00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:03,680
Yes.

369
00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:04,240
Nice.

370
00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,480
And I think the light is still there

371
00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,240
as well.

372
00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,880
Cool. Or some in some indicator

373
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,880
probably.

374
00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,640
Yeah. The lighthouse a couple times

375
00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,120
has just been washed off the

376
00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,000
breakwater and they just pick they

377
00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,800
just put it back like it just

378
00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,120
survives and then they just tow

379
00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,280
it back and put it

380
00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,120
on the end.

381
00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,320
The keepers were in charge

382
00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,320
of running this breakwater light

383
00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,320
as well.

384
00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,640
They had to travel.

385
00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,720
I know. And they said that there's

386
00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,320
enough gasoline

387
00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,520
to run the light for eight

388
00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,720
days before it needed to be refilled.

389
00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,880
So they

390
00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,960
didn't have to come by every day, but

391
00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,560
obviously they were in charge of that

392
00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:41,560
as well.

393
00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:43,400
Cool. Remember that eight days for

394
00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,400
the future.

395
00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:45,680
What are you talking about?

396
00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:46,680
It may come up again.

397
00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:47,680
It may come up again.

398
00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,680
From in this episode?

399
00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:52,680
No.

400
00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:53,680
What is going on?

401
00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:54,680
You're you're drawing.

402
00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:56,760
Are you covering Marquette Breakwater

403
00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,760
Light?

404
00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,760
No.

405
00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,560
Remember these things in the future.

406
00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:02,280
And this is the other wife story I was

407
00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,400
talking about. Captain Patrick McGuire

408
00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,800
was keeper from 1882

409
00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,800
to 1893.

410
00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,800
OK.

411
00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,800
I love that it was Captain

412
00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,800
Patrick.

413
00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,400
It's not he wasn't Coast Guard, right?

414
00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,400
No.

415
00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,400
Not 1800 Coast Guard.

416
00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,400
OK.

417
00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,400
But he must have just.

418
00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,400
Captain.

419
00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,400
He's a maritime man.

420
00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,400
His wife, Catherine, was

421
00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,200
acting as assistant keeper during

422
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,200
this time.

423
00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,200
And women

424
00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,800
keepers were not allowed to go

425
00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,800
to the station.

426
00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,440
Keepers were not allowed at stations

427
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,440
with a foghorn.

428
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,600
But it was overlooked since

429
00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,800
Captain Patrick was apparently highly

430
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,800
valued in the USLHS,

431
00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,040
or at least along the Great Lakes

432
00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,040
Lighthouses.

433
00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,720
She was allowed to be assistant keeper

434
00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,720
and she was actually listed

435
00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,920
as the assistant keeper during this

436
00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,480
time. So she wasn't gypped

437
00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,480
or anything.

438
00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480
But Patrick did her a serious

439
00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,480
disservice because in 1891,

440
00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,200
Catherine went to Chicago

441
00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,200
to visit her sisters and she didn't

442
00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,360
get proper advance notice

443
00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,560
that she was going to be out of

444
00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:00,560
office.

445
00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,800
And he told

446
00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,560
on her at the next inspection.

447
00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,840
He was like, she did not get

448
00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,440
express permission to go see her

449
00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,040
sisters. And she was fired.

450
00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,280
Which like she lives there.

451
00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,320
She's going to live there anyway.

452
00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,320
It's going to be a good story.

453
00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,640
He's probably like, I'm so sorry.

454
00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,040
He's I've got to be a good.

455
00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,160
I am a captain.

456
00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,720
Yeah, I've got to do what's right.

457
00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,640
And then she gets fired. And he's

458
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,200
probably like, oh.

459
00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,800
He probably wrote it in their log

460
00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,800
book.

461
00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,840
Yeah.

462
00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,760
They're going to look through it.

463
00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,760
Like you've got to be.

464
00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:31,600
Yeah.

465
00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,600
Forthright.

466
00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,280
But it said that he was he told

467
00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,440
on her to the inspector just

468
00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600
out of the goodwill towards

469
00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,600
his job.

470
00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,480
It's funny.

471
00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,520
Loyal, more loyal to his job than

472
00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,200
to his wife.

473
00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,920
Committed.

474
00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,600
He's awfully committed to that job.

475
00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,040
Yep.

476
00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,880
He's like, if you're not going to

477
00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,200
take this seriously, then you're

478
00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,800
done. You're done.

479
00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,440
One of us has to be the captain.

480
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,360
In 1893,

481
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,920
Captain Patrick was replaced with

482
00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,600
William Wheatley, who served for

483
00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,600
five years until his untimely

484
00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,600
death.

485
00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,840
At the lighthouse.

486
00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,600
Yeah. Well, outside the lighthouse.

487
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,840
He took a sailboat out on the lake

488
00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,600
with Will Brandon, which I can't

489
00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,840
figure out who that guy is.

490
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,240
Just somebody who was with him.

491
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,080
Notable.

492
00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,320
Yeah, he wasn't assistant keeper

493
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,040
or anything, but a squall

494
00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,880
blew in and overturned their boat

495
00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,000
a mile from shore.

496
00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,320
And Brandon made

497
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,080
the swim, but Wheatley figured

498
00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,560
he wouldn't be able to make it

499
00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,040
because at this time the water

500
00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,040
was really cold.

501
00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,440
It was some early month of the

502
00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,440
year.

503
00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,520
And so he just like held on

504
00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,960
to the boat and waited, like

505
00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,400
hoping Brandon could go get help.

506
00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,040
But because of the squall, the

507
00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,080
boat was blown out, like far out

508
00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,920
into the lake, which, you know,

509
00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:39,920
the lake.

510
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,560
Yeah, there's no, it's not.

511
00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,960
So his body wasn't recovered

512
00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,760
for two months after that.

513
00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,800
They found him.

514
00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,440
Do you know, is he still on the

515
00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,000
boat?

516
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,320
He was overturned, so he was just

517
00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,080
hanging on to it.

518
00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,200
So I'm sure at some point he got

519
00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,520
separated from the boat.

520
00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,520
I know.

521
00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,680
But they said that his funeral

522
00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,560
was highly attended

523
00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,800
by people in the town.

524
00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,520
Why were they out in the water?

525
00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,680
Just probably going to somewhere.

526
00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,480
Interesting.

527
00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,400
Also a mile, swimming a mile,

528
00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,400
even to survive.

529
00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,400
That's really impressive.

530
00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,560
That's what people do in like

531
00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,560
triathlons.

532
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,840
They swim a mile.

533
00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,840
Where everything's perfect.

534
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,320
Yeah.

535
00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:17,960
Everything's lined up.

536
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,000
And they're starting out their

537
00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,520
race with a mile swim.

538
00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,920
Scary.

539
00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,920
I used to be a swimmer and

540
00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,520
I only did the mile a couple of

541
00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,440
times, but it was just it was

542
00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,240
deadly.

543
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,400
I actually didn't know that was a

544
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,680
distance. That was a race.

545
00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,000
How many laps do you know?

546
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,600
I want to say 44.

547
00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,600
Oh my God.

548
00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,600
Let me check.

549
00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,840
Oh, wow.

550
00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,040
I've swam for exercise before.

551
00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,320
And the max I've ever gone is

552
00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,320
like 20.

553
00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,280
And that's throughout a whole

554
00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,280
exercise, not just continuously.

555
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,840
It's 66 laps.

556
00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,840
No, no.

557
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,600
I think the thousand meter is

558
00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,600
44 laps.

559
00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,960
44.

560
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,360
Yeah.

561
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,360
Well, good for him.

562
00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,480
I know he must have been young,

563
00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,760
young and sprightly.

564
00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,000
But anyway, that's just the last

565
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,280
sport.

566
00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,280
At least one of them made it.

567
00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,560
That's true.

568
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:05,920
Could have been the lighthouse

569
00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,920
keeper, but it wasn't.

570
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,800
Too old.

571
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,960
I'm making an assumption there.

572
00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,480
Maybe he was murdered.

573
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,080
Maybe he left him out there on

574
00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:14,840
purpose.

575
00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,240
He just was like, I'm going to

576
00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,240
swim back now.

577
00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,680
I'm going to subject myself to

578
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,920
swim back.

579
00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,720
Couldn't even paddle in.

580
00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,960
Yeah, he probably can't make it,

581
00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,720
but I can.

582
00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,720
Interesting.

583
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,160
OK, so that's about 1900.

584
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,200
Yeah, that was that was

585
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,160
1898.

586
00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,200
So now we're jumping ahead to

587
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,200
1908.

588
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,120
They had a new fourth order

589
00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,120
flashing lens, which had a red

590
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,560
flash every five seconds.

591
00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,560
Oh, and by the way, that sixth

592
00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,880
order for no lens that they had

593
00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,320
originally at

594
00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,800
the lighthouse.

595
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,080
It was given to

596
00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,560
the Marquette breakwater light.

597
00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,840
So it actually had a for no

598
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,440
lens.

599
00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,080
Interesting.

600
00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:53,640
Yeah.

601
00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,800
And of the breakwater, you know, I

602
00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,000
said they were in charge of that

603
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,200
light and there was also a fog

604
00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,000
signal over there.

605
00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,560
And so at this point is when they

606
00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,840
added the second assistant

607
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,800
position in 1910

608
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,400
and to make enough livable space

609
00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,880
because now there's three people

610
00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,440
generally with families.

611
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,400
They converted the lighthouse

612
00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,840
into a duplex, but instead of

613
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,880
cutting it in half, they raised

614
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,760
it another story like they added

615
00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,760
another.

616
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,120
That's an interesting operation.

617
00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,440
What is it with people in

618
00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,040
lighthouses wanting to do fancy

619
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,320
stuff with construction?

620
00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,880
Yeah, it's like moving

621
00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,480
lighthouses and adding

622
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,440
levels.

623
00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,200
That's one thing.

624
00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,520
It's like you could have added

625
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,840
you could have just built another

626
00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,600
tiny house there, but instead

627
00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,480
they raise

628
00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,760
a like in this picture, you can

629
00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,400
see the line where they added

630
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,400
the second story.

631
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,640
I know.

632
00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,000
And it's connected to the

633
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,240
lighthouse. So like they'd have

634
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,880
to do a bunch of structural work.

635
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,000
Maybe the foundations on these

636
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,720
because of where they're at near

637
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,280
the water are so crazy that

638
00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,680
it's worth it somehow to stay on

639
00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:51,680
that foundation.

640
00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,800
Yeah, like cheaper instead of

641
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,560
making more foundation.

642
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,560
I don't know.

643
00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,240
Add more height.

644
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,160
That's cool, though. So that

645
00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,960
when this is 1910, circa

646
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:00,960
1910.

647
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,520
Yeah, or at least sometime after

648
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,200
that.

649
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,280
But it was before it was painted.

650
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,800
So you can see the line where

651
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,120
they added more height to the

652
00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:08,880
lighthouse slash keepers

653
00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,520
cottage.

654
00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,600
Looks like they're radio towers

655
00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,200
as well.

656
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,200
Yeah.

657
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,760
And this made it 40 feet tall.

658
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,280
So the final height of our

659
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,880
lighthouse is 40 feet.

660
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,440
From what I've seen,

661
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,880
in my own research of Marquette

662
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,480
Lighthouse, this is Marquette

663
00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,000
Harbor. This is not yet

664
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000
recognizable.

665
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,880
So I'm interested to see where

666
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:25,880
this goes.

667
00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:26,880
Take another sip.

668
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,960
Reference, I just have an iced

669
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,320
coffee with a little bit of sweet

670
00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,320
cream.

671
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,000
Oh, you can't let it finish.

672
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,560
Nope.

673
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,960
Forty feet.

674
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,960
Is that what you said?

675
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,200
Yeah.

676
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,640
That same year,

677
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,000
something notable, is the

678
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,280
179 foot steamer

679
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,280
Lootie.

680
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,000
I think is how it's pronounced.

681
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,000
L-E-U-T-Y

682
00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:52,600
is actually D Lootie.

683
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,200
So I think it was someone's name,

684
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,200
D.

685
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,200
Lootie.

686
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,480
It ran aground on Lighthouse

687
00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,280
Point just outside of the

688
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,280
lighthouse.

689
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,360
And there's some drama here

690
00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,400
because the keeper at the time,

691
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,360
Kimball, he served for 22 years

692
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,360
at this lighthouse.

693
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,520
He was blamed by the captain of

694
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,480
the ship for the crashing

695
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,960
of the steamer.

696
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,160
And the keepers are instructed to

697
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,160
begin a fire

698
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,800
for the fog signal when they hear

699
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,800
three short whistles

700
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,440
from any traffic on the lake,

701
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,280
which signifies that there's

702
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,280
bad weather out there.

703
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,640
And it takes

704
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,200
40 minutes for pressure

705
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,840
to build up from this in order

706
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,320
to start the

707
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,720
signal, the fog signal.

708
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,280
Yeah.

709
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,880
And the crash happened 35 minutes

710
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,480
after the boat alerted the keeper.

711
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,160
So it was just just barely

712
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,880
they did an investigation and he

713
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,880
had heard and started

714
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,880
them on time.

715
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,880
But it's just five minutes

716
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,880
too early to crash

717
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,480
before the fog signal started

718
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,480
going off.

719
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,880
So was it the steamer

720
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,280
signaled three times?

721
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,280
Yes.

722
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,920
So potentially that was the first

723
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,640
signal that the keeper had heard.

724
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,640
Yes.

725
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,640
That stinks.

726
00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,080
Yeah.

727
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,320
And then they also started the

728
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,080
steam whistle that was on

729
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,080
the breakwater light.

730
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,080
But they said

731
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,320
they said they didn't hear it.

732
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,320
Can't really blame anybody there.

733
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,320
But the keeper at on

734
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,040
shore, maybe it's a lot around

735
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,040
the boat.

736
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,040
The water is a little bit

737
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,040
more.

738
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,040
The water is moving around it.

739
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,480
I was going to say, but to keep

740
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,040
her on shore at Marquette Harbor

741
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,880
light, which is not breakwater,

742
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,360
heard the three signals from

743
00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:25,800
the ferry, the steamer.

744
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,360
Yeah.

745
00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:28,600
So one heard the other, but

746
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,680
he didn't hear that.

747
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,120
The remains of the steamer, the

748
00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,960
wooden remains are a popular dive

749
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,480
spot.

750
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,480
Oh, cool.

751
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,360
And they put a buoy on

752
00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:38,320
it for divers to be able to find

753
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,120
exactly where to dive to.

754
00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:40,840
I would love to do that.

755
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,440
I know. Wouldn't it be cool?

756
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,800
I've always wanted to dive

757
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,080
around a shipwreck.

758
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,840
That'd be so cool.

759
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,920
It's probably quite shallow as

760
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,320
well.

761
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,800
This was, uh, I want to say 40

762
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,440
feet down.

763
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:51,800
Yeah.

764
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,320
Yeah.

765
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,440
Cool.

766
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,560
It'd probably be creepy.

767
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,080
I think it'd be spooky.

768
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,200
Anyone die on the steamer?

769
00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:58,880
I don't know.

770
00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,680
It didn't say.

771
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,560
Hopefully not.

772
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,720
I don't think so because it's

773
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,160
pretty shallow of a.

774
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,160
Pretty shallow.

775
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,880
Nineteen thirty two, a series

776
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,720
and we actually talked about this

777
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,120
before, a series of radio

778
00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,640
telephones were established to

779
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,600
connect offshore lighthouses.

780
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,960
And this was Standard Rock,

781
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,040
Manitou Island, Passage Island

782
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,920
and Rock of Ages.

783
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,720
A side note, Rock of Ages was

784
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,080
one of the Fresnel lenses

785
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,280
that we showed in that history

786
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,880
buoy a few days ago.

787
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,080
A few days ago, a few episodes

788
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,000
ago, and I was like, Rock of

789
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,280
Ages. I wonder what that is.

790
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,280
That's weird.

791
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,160
It's one of these offshore,

792
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,840
like, super isolated, super

793
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,800
segregated lighthouses.

794
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,680
Interesting name.

795
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,000
Yeah.

796
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,320
But these radio telephones

797
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,680
connected all these lighthouses

798
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,640
to Marquette.

799
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,840
And after November

800
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,400
1st, any mail for these

801
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,560
lighthouses were sent straight

802
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,400
to Marquette.

803
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,200
And then the keepers would read

804
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,440
the mail that is supposed

805
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,800
to go to the other lighthouses

806
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,760
to them over the radio

807
00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,320
telephone.

808
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,160
Oh, cool.

809
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,360
Mike, that's so cute.

810
00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:02,520
Like we're going to expedite

811
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:02,960
this.

812
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,120
Yeah, like we're not sending

813
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:04,760
knowledge.

814
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,080
Well, it's like, you know,

815
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,240
sometimes we talked about it in

816
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,800
standard rock.

817
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,960
It would just be solid ice out

818
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,320
there. There's no way you could

819
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,920
get a tender out there.

820
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,040
So you just read them their mail

821
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,240
from Marquette.

822
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,360
I wonder if they sent mail the

823
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,120
same way, send

824
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,800
a message from standard rock

825
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,160
to Marquette Harbor that

826
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:22,760
we need.

827
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,360
Yeah.

828
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:24,680
Our rations were spoiled.

829
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,280
Yeah, I bet so.

830
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,200
I bet they would do that.

831
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,120
Interesting.

832
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,920
1965, the lighthouse

833
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,440
was painted its very

834
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,040
recognizable red daymark.

835
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:35,480
Boom.

836
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,000
Oh, yeah.

837
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,960
That's what we like to see.

838
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,120
That's a good color red.

839
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,280
Yeah, there's a name for it.

840
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,400
I can't remember what it is now.

841
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,200
It was like it's a strange,

842
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,400
strange name for the red color.

843
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,080
Rustoleum makes a red lot like

844
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,160
that.

845
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:49,920
Rust what?

846
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,600
Rustoleum.

847
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,160
It's a paint brand.

848
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,880
Oh, cool.

849
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,440
Yeah, I'm surprised they'd use

850
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,360
such a bright color for for this

851
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,080
lighthouse, the outside of it.

852
00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,920
You know, we're used to seeing

853
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,000
that on even the rails.

854
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,520
Yeah, I know.

855
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,960
Handrails on the walkway.

856
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,120
So much fun.

857
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:05,840
A lot of red.

858
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,280
I love this color.

859
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,520
Like a fire engine red.

860
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,920
Yeah, I know.

861
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,520
Big fan.

862
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,800
In 2002, a 30 year lease

863
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,240
was finalized between the Coast

864
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960
Guard and the Marquette Maritime

865
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,960
Museum to turn the bottom level

866
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,520
of the lighthouse into a museum.

867
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,760
And then the second level was to

868
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,280
be renovated to its original

869
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,600
state when it was first built, I

870
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,320
think.

871
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,920
But I'm not sure that they've

872
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,800
gotten around to doing that yet.

873
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,080
The second 2002 30 year lease

874
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:33,680
renovations.

875
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,080
OK, yeah.

876
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,680
Oops.

877
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,480
Nowadays, it has a white flash

878
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,720
every 10 seconds.

879
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,840
I couldn't find exactly when

880
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,880
the switch was made because the

881
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,720
USLHS didn't have a lot of

882
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,160
lightless information on this

883
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,600
one.

884
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,480
OK.

885
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,600
But in 2016, the lighthouse

886
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,720
was officially transferred to

887
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,400
the city of Marquette.

888
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,600
So they are now in charge of

889
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560
maintenance and doing any

890
00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,160
renovating.

891
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,880
That's nice.

892
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,000
Yeah, it's nice that it's kind

893
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,240
of it's kind of uncommon,

894
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,640
actually, city ownership of the

895
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,400
lighthouse.

896
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,440
That's what I was thinking, too.

897
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,560
But the museum part of this

898
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,320
stipulation of this was that the

899
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,720
museum would still need to run

900
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,280
tours of the lighthouse.

901
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,600
What kind of tours you ask?

902
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,480
We have two very special guests

903
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,520
that we are going to interview

904
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,720
that can tell you all about it.

905
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,360
Nice.

906
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,040
But just a warning, it's going

907
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,280
to be spooky.

908
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,160
That's the part two.

909
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,000
Yeah, well, actually, we're just

910
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,800
doing it right now.

911
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,640
You're ruining it.

912
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,480
It's supposed to be spooky.

913
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,040
It's serious.

914
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320
It's hot buttons.

915
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,280
We go.

916
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:42,920
We got sound.

917
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,520
Hello.

918
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:43,880
Hello.

919
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,440
Can you guys hear us OK?

920
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,320
We can now.

921
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Yes.

922
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:47,920
All right.

923
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,560
Excellent.

924
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,360
Hello.

925
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:49,720
Hello.

926
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,320
How are you guys doing?

927
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,920
Good.

928
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,960
Good.

929
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Well, I'm Emily and I've got

930
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,360
Vince here on the other

931
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:55,800
microphone.

932
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,920
How's it going?

933
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,960
Hey, Vince and Emily.

934
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,880
Nice to meet you guys.

935
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,040
Nice to meet you.

936
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,880
So I'll just get started by

937
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,840
telling you just a very short

938
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,720
little amount about what our

939
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,080
podcast is.

940
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,000
So we're a history podcast.

941
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,360
We talk about it's usually one

942
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:11,600
episode.

943
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,120
We talk about one lighthouse

944
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,720
and we'll talk about its history

945
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,520
and what it looks like and

946
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,040
anything like any current events

947
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,760
going on.

948
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,320
We just covered the Marquette

949
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,480
Harbor Lighthouse.

950
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,800
And so we intentionally didn't

951
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,400
research or talk about any of

952
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,640
the spooky things about the

953
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,760
lighthouse.

954
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,520
We're hoping you guys can do

955
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,600
that for us.

956
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,560
Absolutely.

957
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:32,840
Yeah.

958
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,840
So if you want to start just by

959
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,800
just telling us who you guys are

960
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,400
and what are your jobs like and

961
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,200
all that stuff.

962
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,400
Well, I'm Trish Cotts, the

963
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,040
founder of Uber Paranormal.

964
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,760
And I just kind of did a

965
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760
paranormal thing and Susan and I

966
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,880
do the paranormal lighthouse

967
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,920
tours together.

968
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,840
We do.

969
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,640
I'm Susan Hill.

970
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,800
I have been with the Marquette

971
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040
Maritime Museum since 2017,

972
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,080
first as a volunteer and now as

973
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,120
a board member.

974
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,960
I do the odd daytime tour,

975
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,200
non paranormal still.

976
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,920
But for the most part, we focus

977
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,720
on the paranormal tours as a

978
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000
specialty once a month evening

979
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,280
tour offering now during the

980
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,240
May through October.

981
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,040
Perfect season.

982
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,960
Yeah.

983
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Tis the season.

984
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,080
So Uber Paranormal, is that

985
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,320
is that like people contact you

986
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,560
if they think something's going

987
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,640
on and you investigate?

988
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Yeah, absolutely.

989
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,640
People that, you know, if they

990
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,880
feel they have something going

991
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,080
on in their home that they can

992
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280
explain or even businesses,

993
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,600
they'll message me or contact me

994
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,360
on the Uber Paranormal Facebook

995
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,400
page.

996
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,120
And then we'll go over and use

997
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,960
some equipment, see what we get

998
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,800
and see how we can help.

999
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,280
Very cool.

1000
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,560
So how did you end up at the

1001
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,000
lighthouse?

1002
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,280
Oh, that's true.

1003
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,080
So I when I first started off

1004
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,120
with the Maritime Museum in the

1005
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,440
summer of 2017, I was doing

1006
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,760
Tuesdays, so three daytime tours

1007
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160
on on Tuesdays and nothing

1008
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,320
really overly spooky happened

1009
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,280
that first summer until the very

1010
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,160
last day of the season that we

1011
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,960
were open.

1012
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,880
It was mid-October and it was my

1013
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,360
last tour of the season, the

1014
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,240
last tour for the whole thing of

1015
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,080
the season.

1016
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,760
And I was locking you guys.

1017
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,840
You've obviously looked at

1018
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,800
pictures of the lighthouse.

1019
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,640
So there's the hour, the door at

1020
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,360
the bottom of the tower and then

1021
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:30,720
the spiral staircase that goes

1022
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,200
up to the second floor.

1023
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,720
And there is a man door that goes

1024
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,320
opens inward onto the second

1025
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,520
floor of the lighthouse.

1026
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,160
And that is usually closed.

1027
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,920
We don't access the second floor

1028
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,160
on our tours because we're

1029
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,440
currently working on having some

1030
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,000
renovations done.

1031
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,840
There's been a bit of ceiling

1032
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,960
damage and whatnot that we're

1033
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,120
hoping to have rectified.

1034
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,040
Anyway, so I had closed the door.

1035
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,480
I left my tour out the back door

1036
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,480
looking at the view while I ran

1037
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,640
in and secured that door at the

1038
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,240
end of the tour.

1039
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,120
So I had closed the door and

1040
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,480
I was barring it with the two

1041
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,800
two by fours that we keep there

1042
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,760
to our advanced security system.

1043
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,920
But I closed the door and as I

1044
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,360
was barring the door, I heard

1045
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,960
that man door at the top of the

1046
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,240
tower stairs creak and I bring

1047
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:18,880
it in.

1048
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Oh, man, it's really windy

1049
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,240
outside if it's blowing up the

1050
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,080
tower and moving the door.

1051
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,240
And then that door slammed and

1052
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240
I'm talking it's slammed like I

1053
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,520
can't slam a door that hard.

1054
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,600
It just bam.

1055
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,760
And then my little brain is

1056
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080
going, this door's already

1057
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,240
closed.

1058
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,400
That wasn't the wind.

1059
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240
Yeah, I can't explain it.

1060
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,600
I'm kind of feeling a little

1061
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,440
sick, you know, like I'm

1062
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,520
panicky and I that second two

1063
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,680
by four down and I ran out of

1064
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,440
the lighthouse like I just I

1065
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,400
couldn't explain it.

1066
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,760
And in my mind, there was no

1067
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,960
such thing as ghosts at that

1068
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,280
point.

1069
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,840
I told a little ghost story as

1070
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,800
part of the daytime tour, but I

1071
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,240
wasn't a believer in ghosts.

1072
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,000
So that's the fun story.

1073
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,560
I really was kind of skeptical

1074
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,680
when I first got on board with

1075
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,560
the lighthouse.

1076
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,880
So I go running back down to the

1077
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,080
Maritime Museum and Hillary

1078
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,600
Billman, our director, was

1079
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,320
there.

1080
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,560
And I said, Hillary, the door,

1081
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,640
the door just slammed by itself.

1082
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,160
There must be a door back in

1083
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Florida lighthouse.

1084
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,960
So we need to go back up there

1085
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,280
and close that because that

1086
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
doors don't slam on their own.

1087
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,120
And she looked at me and she

1088
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,800
smiled, this knowing smile

1089
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,960
still gives me when something

1090
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,200
freaky happens.

1091
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,600
And she says, come on, Susan,

1092
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,320
let's go back up and we'll we'll

1093
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,040
close the window, she says.

1094
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,560
And I'd never been on the second

1095
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,480
floor of the Marquette

1096
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Lighthouse before this moment.

1097
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,320
So that was really cool.

1098
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,040
I was excited to go up there.

1099
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,600
And so up we went and it's

1100
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,120
uncomfortable on the second

1101
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,600
floor.

1102
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,720
Something doesn't want you up

1103
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,400
there.

1104
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,120
The energy you go up there like

1105
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,920
it's your fight or flight

1106
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,240
response kind of kicks in.

1107
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,360
And there's more ghost story to

1108
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:51,840
come with that.

1109
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,480
But anyway, we went room to

1110
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,040
room and I'm looking for the

1111
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280
window because I need to close

1112
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,360
it because it blew the door

1113
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,560
closed in my mind.

1114
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,960
There was no windows open.

1115
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,280
This is 10 minutes after that

1116
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,280
happened, you know, so it was

1117
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,000
pretty quick.

1118
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,520
Nobody else had been up there.

1119
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,880
And that door that slammed so

1120
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,800
hard was open again.

1121
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Oh, it was creeped out.

1122
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,200
So Hillary, bless her heart,

1123
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120
actually tied that doorknob to

1124
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,680
the tower stair railing for the

1125
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,800
following year so that it

1126
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,760
couldn't slam like that and

1127
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920
freak anybody else out.

1128
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,120
So onward to 2018, they were

1129
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,960
the city of Marquette was

1130
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,760
constructing Lighthouse Park

1131
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,600
and they were doing some

1132
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600
demolition and some paving and

1133
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,840
a lot of action in the

1134
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,080
lighthouse area.

1135
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,280
And fun fact, construction can

1136
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,520
really ramp up paranormal

1137
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,160
activity.

1138
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,800
And we have all kinds of weird

1139
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,760
stuff going on up there.

1140
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,920
You'd hear footsteps walking on

1141
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,000
the second floor when there's

1142
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,080
nobody up there.

1143
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920
Big furnishes, almost like if

1144
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,160
somebody tipped over a big,

1145
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,760
heavy piece of furniture, like

1146
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,480
a dresser or something, you

1147
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,040
know, boom, like just shake

1148
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,520
everything.

1149
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,400
You feel like pretty much the

1150
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,640
whole building shake, but

1151
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,120
there's no furniture upstairs

1152
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,800
to tip over.

1153
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,160
So stuff like that.

1154
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,400
And then the icing on the cake,

1155
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,280
like my nerves are getting

1156
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,920
frazzled.

1157
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,040
I had a couple of people on

1158
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,920
daytime tours that were

1159
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
physically affected by

1160
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,680
something.

1161
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,640
And it was happening at the

1162
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,400
same point in the tour when I

1163
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,600
was telling the little daytime

1164
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,480
ghost story, the canned ghost

1165
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600
story, if you will, that I

1166
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,840
just part of the tour, all the

1167
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,600
tour guides tell it.

1168
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,760
And so stuff's going on.

1169
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,520
I'm pretty freaked out.

1170
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,080
The icing on the cake that

1171
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,360
made me contact you for

1172
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,880
paranormal came one hot,

1173
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,800
muggy, awful, still no wind

1174
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,040
afternoon.

1175
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,800
Again, it's the front tower

1176
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,760
door and stairwell.

1177
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,400
My tour is outside.

1178
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,240
I closed that door and it was

1179
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,520
there was no breeze that day.

1180
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,840
Like it was just wicked hot.

1181
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,960
I closed the door and I'm

1182
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,240
reaching for the first two by

1183
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,520
four to secure the door.

1184
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,640
And all of a sudden, it got

1185
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,400
cold in that front tower area

1186
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,040
and in a freezer.

1187
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240
And I'm the hair just stood up

1188
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,200
on my arms, the back of my

1189
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,560
neck.

1190
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,200
The air was almost tingly.

1191
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,520
It almost felt electric.

1192
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,480
Like that's the only way I can

1193
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,320
describe it.

1194
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,600
And I just kind of froze

1195
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,400
because I'm like, what the

1196
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,800
hell?

1197
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Like I went from sweating to

1198
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,920
I'm standing in a meat locker.

1199
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,480
And I'm something like it's

1200
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640
tingly and I'm just waiting for

1201
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,920
something to happen because

1202
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,960
what is going on?

1203
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,080
I've never experienced anything

1204
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,640
like this.

1205
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,040
And I had my hair in a ponytail

1206
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,040
because it was so hot.

1207
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,880
And all of a sudden, down the

1208
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,240
back of my neck, it felt like a

1209
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,160
finger gray.

1210
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,800
No.

1211
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,120
And I said, remember this, like

1212
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,880
it was yesterday.

1213
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Oh, hell no.

1214
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,200
And bam.

1215
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,680
And I'm a run in and I'm a big

1216
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,120
gal.

1217
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,960
I don't run anywhere.

1218
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,400
I was running Usain.

1219
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360
So I back down to the museum.

1220
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,760
I'm white and I am freaked out.

1221
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,880
Something just touched me and

1222
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,920
there was nobody there.

1223
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Right.

1224
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,680
Like this is my little brain

1225
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,520
just can't even process it.

1226
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,960
So I go down and Hillary's

1227
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,360
there again.

1228
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,120
I'm like, Hillary, something

1229
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,160
just got really cold.

1230
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,400
Oh, my God.

1231
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,440
Having a fit.

1232
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,760
And she's like, hmm.

1233
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,480
She gives me that knowing look.

1234
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,440
That was the end of it.

1235
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,280
I went home and I'm freaked out

1236
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,000
the very next day.

1237
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,160
Another tour guide named

1238
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Shannon, who I hadn't seen since

1239
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,640
like our Christmas gathering.

1240
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,880
Facebook messages me out of the

1241
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,040
blue.

1242
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,320
She says, Hillary told me that I

1243
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,160
should message you and tell you

1244
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,680
what happened to me today.

1245
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,480
So she had the exact same thing

1246
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,760
happen the very next day.

1247
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,680
Going to bar the front door,

1248
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,640
ice cold, tingly finger on the neck.

1249
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Yeah, so I'm like, this isn't cool.

1250
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Something's touching us.

1251
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,360
I'm ready to quit.

1252
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,640
My nerves are shot.

1253
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,200
So I had seen you prepare a normal

1254
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,080
at the Ishpeming Library

1255
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,720
in, I think, 2017 when I first moved here

1256
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,000
and they did this awesome

1257
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,560
presentation on hauntings, ghosts

1258
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,880
and equipment.

1259
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,720
And I just thought it was the neatest thing.

1260
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,200
So I found them on Facebook

1261
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,840
and I sent Trisha a message

1262
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,200
and I said probably something to the tuna.

1263
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,480
Please don't think I'm crazy,

1264
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,920
but I volunteer at the market

1265
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,240
Harbor Lighthouse and we have got so much

1266
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,920
activity.

1267
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,640
I probably said shit, but, you know,

1268
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,680
so much activity going on.

1269
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,960
Would you be willing to help us

1270
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,720
come and check it out?

1271
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,840
Maybe tell us what it is,

1272
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,720
because I don't want to be there anymore.

1273
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:13,120
I don't know what's going to slam,

1274
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:13,880
what's going to walk,

1275
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,040
what's going to touch me.

1276
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,160
Something's touching us now.

1277
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600
And Trisha's like, oh, yeah, House Friday.

1278
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,000
We met up there that following Friday evening.

1279
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,360
And just during the preliminary

1280
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,760
like five minute walkthrough,

1281
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,040
I was given Trisha and her team

1282
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,720
a little a little walkthrough,

1283
00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:31,480
giving them some history on the building

1284
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,400
and and what not.

1285
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,760
They had more activity

1286
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,280
during that preliminary walkthrough

1287
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,600
than they had anticipated getting all night.

1288
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,680
It was really active.

1289
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Yeah, like we heard there was voices.

1290
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,360
They were picking up EVPs.

1291
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,720
There was we heard a child singing.

1292
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:46,960
Oh, no.

1293
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,120
Oh, yeah.

1294
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Trish just had the most amazing

1295
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,280
disembodied scream that she captured up there

1296
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,920
on video on Saturday.

1297
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,120
I felt that you prepare a normal Facebook page.

1298
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,920
You can hear it without a head phone.

1299
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,520
Yeah, super, super cool.

1300
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Yeah.

1301
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,560
So during the preliminary walkthrough,

1302
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,360
Trish was like a kid on Christmas morning,

1303
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,760
like so much.

1304
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,240
And so she came back again

1305
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:08,560
and she brought more equipment

1306
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,760
and got tons of evidence.

1307
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,760
And then Covid happened.

1308
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040
And the lighthouse was hurting financially

1309
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,800
because we're strictly volunteer based.

1310
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,920
You know, and we couldn't take

1311
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,000
nearly the number of people

1312
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,200
through on our daytime tours.

1313
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,960
We're trying to come up with an idea

1314
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680
to make some better money, help out.

1315
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,920
And I said, why don't we do a paranormal tour?

1316
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,560
People love that stuff, right?

1317
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,480
Everybody likes, you know, ghost shows on whatever.

1318
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,080
And so I reached out to Trish and she's like,

1319
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,480
that'd be cool.

1320
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,280
And we did our first one, I think, in 2019.

1321
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,400
Started them in 2019,

1322
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,800
maybe even a little before Covid.

1323
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,040
We took a run at that, did we?

1324
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,760
I guess. I think so. Yeah.

1325
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,880
OK. And then ramped it up

1326
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,800
and did it regularly during Covid.

1327
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120
It was a huge hit.

1328
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,200
Pulled out well in advance.

1329
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,480
They usually sell out the month before.

1330
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,720
And we only take 10 people maximum

1331
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,800
because we want people to have a unique

1332
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,880
and authentic experience.

1333
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,120
And if you have too many people,

1334
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,400
you're not going to hear stuff that's happening.

1335
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,160
So 10 is kind of the maximum because, yeah,

1336
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,360
footsteps and stuff, it can be hard to hear

1337
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,200
if you've got too many people around in your chat.

1338
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,600
And then and what?

1339
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,600
So that is how Trish and I came to.

1340
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,560
And then we just hit it off and became great friends.

1341
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,360
And one night she's like, hey, these people are

1342
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,120
having some weird ghost activity in their house in the Gani.

1343
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,360
Do you want to come with me?

1344
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,640
They're seeing a child crawl out of the ceiling.

1345
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
And I'm like, oh, wow.

1346
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,200
Oh, my gosh.

1347
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,040
I'm like, oh, OK.

1348
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Yeah.

1349
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,880
Let's do that.

1350
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,880
So a beautiful friendship was born.

1351
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,520
Yeah, that'll bring you closer. Yeah.

1352
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,400
I'm going to make her go on all the haunted things with me,

1353
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,480
even if she's kicking and screaming.

1354
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,400
Yeah, I'm a chicken. I'm not very good at that.

1355
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,280
But well, that's amazing.

1356
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,240
So do you usually get a lot of activity on these tours

1357
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,640
or does the larger kind of scare them off?

1358
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,920
No, they are ghosts are extremely intelligent

1359
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,560
and we have a great working relationship.

1360
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960
And this is going to make us sound crazy.

1361
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,520
But we'll go in there.

1362
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,320
And Trish usually goes in about an hour before

1363
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,800
the tour and sets up equipment and whatnot.

1364
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,640
And she'll you know, they know why we're there.

1365
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
We've said, you know, we're we're doing this as volunteers.

1366
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,360
We're doing this to make money to fix the upstairs ceiling.

1367
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,520
We're doing this for you guys, because if this lighthouse falls down,

1368
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,640
you have nowhere to haunt.

1369
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560
So help us help you.

1370
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,800
If you could slam the door, if you could, you know, make a little noise,

1371
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,400
walk around, interact with our equipment a little bit,

1372
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,320
then these people are going to tell their friends

1373
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,040
and they're going to come on a paranormal tour.

1374
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,560
And we're just going to keep making money

1375
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,720
and we're going to be able to do these repairs.

1376
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,080
So thinking back to like the late 1800s,

1377
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,720
a lighthouse keeper was making about $400 a year, $450 a year.

1378
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600
An assistant keeper was making $250.

1379
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,360
And I'm telling them, you know, these people are paying $25 each

1380
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,200
to come up for, you know, an hour and a half, two hours.

1381
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,200
So help us help you.

1382
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,160
And they're awesome about it. They will. They're working.

1383
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,280
It's a lot of people leave there with with a whole different mindset

1384
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,160
on the paranormal.

1385
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,920
We've come and leave as believers.

1386
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,400
They everybody gets to have an experience when they come.

1387
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,000
You have that knowing look. Yeah.

1388
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,680
You talk. You started off with, you know, don't call me crazy. Right. Yeah.

1389
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:23,000
Oh, it's awesome.

1390
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,760
I always ask at the start of a tour, who doesn't believe in ghosts?

1391
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,840
Those are my people.

1392
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,840
Like you were going to talk at the end of the tour.

1393
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,200
And we can't guarantee, you know, that they're going to have activity.

1394
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,200
And there is the odd time that nothing happens and we get ghosted.

1395
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,440
But for the most part, they're really good at doing something

1396
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,120
that the guests can't explain.

1397
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080
But even if they don't have, say, a paranormal experience,

1398
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,920
just Susan telling the history of it, people are just loving that.

1399
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,440
They love hearing about the former lighthouse keeper or

1400
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,840
when it was built, who, you know, what happened there.

1401
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,640
Yeah. Yeah. We tried them to.

1402
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,080
I'll tell a few stories on the way up.

1403
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,480
Usually I'll pick them up at the museum and walk them up and I'll tell,

1404
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040
you know, my top few ghost stories and I'll introduce them

1405
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,000
before we go up to the three major player ghosts that we interact with the most

1406
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,000
and who we hope they're going to meet tonight and and give them a little bit

1407
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,760
of housekeeping information as well.

1408
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,160
You know, you're welcome to take pictures.

1409
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,400
You're welcome to take video.

1410
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,600
Please turn the ringer off on your cell phone.

1411
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,480
One of our ghosts does not like people answering calls in that lighthouse.

1412
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,880
And he scared the holy hell out of a man

1413
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,440
a few years ago who kept taking phone calls.

1414
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,880
And it was probably my favorite ghost story of

1415
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,320
the best lesson in cell phone etiquette I have ever witnessed.

1416
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,320
It was glorious.

1417
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,840
I was ready to throw the guy's phone in the lake by the time this happened.

1418
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,360
A well-deserved scare.

1419
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,920
It was. So we gave him a little, you know, this is hoping.

1420
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,320
We're hoping you're going to meet these three tonight or one of them.

1421
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,320
Maybe we'll see who's around.

1422
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,800
But but they kind of have an idea what's going on before we get up there.

1423
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,120
And then anything that happens, you know, be it.

1424
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Trish has some really great equipment that especially our little child ghost,

1425
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,880
David absolutely loves anything that lights up.

1426
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,440
Trish always has really good luck with the stuff that lights up.

1427
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,000
He'll he'll run down her string of EMF detecting lights and show the guests

1428
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000
how fast he is.

1429
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
He will.

1430
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,920
He loves it when the tour sings for him.

1431
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,080
So we'll sing, roll, roll, roll your boat.

1432
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,200
And we actually have footage of Trish had her SLS camera there for a tour.

1433
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,200
And Trish and the tour had the SLS camera at one side of the room.

1434
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,640
And I was standing over by the door and we were trying to get David to come

1435
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,640
and stand with me for a picture.

1436
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,440
And the tour sang for him.

1437
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,040
And sure enough, there's a little stick figure beside me on the SLS camera.

1438
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,640
He held my hand.

1439
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,640
He waved at Trish when she asked him to.

1440
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,920
And you guys can actually watch that on YouTube.

1441
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,920
If you look up You Prepare a Normal, Trish Cotts on YouTube there is a clip of that

1442
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,920
that was taken right off the Facebook live as it happened.

1443
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,920
So that is crazy.

1444
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,920
Yeah.

1445
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,920
Amazingly attractive.

1446
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,920
David is my favorite little ghost.

1447
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,920
I know you're not supposed to have a favorite, but he's always willing to show the tour

1448
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,920
how fast he can run and he loves toys.

1449
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,920
And yeah, he rolled a truck for us one night and oh gosh, he doesn't.

1450
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,920
He loves to sing.

1451
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,920
We've had EVPs of them singing in the stairwell.

1452
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Trish always leaves recorders going throughout the lighthouse.

1453
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,920
So even if we're not in the room, she's going to pick up whatever's going on in there.

1454
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,920
It's really neat.

1455
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,920
So we've got an EVP of we're in one room talking and this recorder was in the next room

1456
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,920
and you can hear someone scream, get out.

1457
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,920
And I would have died.

1458
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,920
I would have gotten out and I probably wouldn't have come back.

1459
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,920
So Trish is really savvy about this.

1460
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,920
She keeps her recorders going and gets lots of cool evidence when we're not, stuff you're

1461
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,920
not going to hear as it's happening.

1462
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,920
So you said there's three main ghosts that you're hoping people will meet and one of

1463
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,920
them is David and then the other two.

1464
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Are these names you gave them or is this like, do you have some insight to maybe their past

1465
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,920
lives?

1466
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,920
Absolutely.

1467
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:18,920
David is the only one we don't have the origin of and we got his name through him giving

1468
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,920
us various equipment as well as different mediums that have read the lighthouse.

1469
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,920
So David didn't live there.

1470
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,920
He apparently drowned nearby very quickly and traumatically when he was about two and

1471
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,920
that is just heartbreaking.

1472
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,920
But he, the lighthouse was the closest building to where the accident happened and he attached

1473
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,920
to it and he's been there ever since and he's a happy little fella.

1474
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,920
We'd love to cross him over because it's just sad to me that he's there instead of with

1475
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,920
his family.

1476
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:52,920
Sometimes when a drowning like that happens so quickly, they don't even realize what happened.

1477
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,920
I don't know.

1478
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,920
That's more Trisha's department than mine.

1479
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,920
But the other two and there's literally layers upon layers of spirits up there we've been

1480
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,920
told.

1481
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,920
We have just scratched the surface.

1482
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Un's going on that we haven't interacted with, including the screaming lady.

1483
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,920
We have a lady keeper that isn't there all the time, but she'll pop in and she's wonderful.

1484
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,920
And then we have a keeper, an assistant keeper who actually is the only person to have died

1485
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,920
in the lighthouse and that's our biggest strongest ghost.

1486
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,920
So if you want a little history on them, I can toss you a little history.

1487
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Definitely.

1488
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,920
That'd be great.

1489
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,920
Okay.

1490
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,920
The lady keeper is Eliza Truckee and she was actually with the first lighthouse in Marquette.

1491
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,920
So the one that was built in 1853.

1492
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,080
It was a separate house and a tower structure and it was made primarily of wood so it lasted

1493
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,400
less than 10 years because that's a bad spot to be building anything out of wood.

1494
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,360
So the one that is currently standing there, the big red one was built in 1866, which you

1495
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,960
guys probably know, but Eliza was with the first lighthouse.

1496
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:58,400
Her husband Nelson was the keeper and they lived there with there, I believe four children

1497
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,960
at the time.

1498
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:05,380
Nelson felt the call to go fight in the civil war and off he went.

1499
00:44:05,380 --> 00:44:10,320
He left Eliza with four children under the age of 10 and expecting number five and she

1500
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,960
became the acting keeper for three and a half years.

1501
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:20,120
So at that point, the wick on that lens had to be trimmed every two hours at night, if

1502
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:25,120
you can imagine and not fueled up and you're hauling water from the lake, you're keeping

1503
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,240
house, you've got all these little kids and you're pregnant.

1504
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,360
I don't know when she slept.

1505
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,360
She was amazing.

1506
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,520
She developed a great rapport with the natives in the area and they nicknamed her mother

1507
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,240
of the light.

1508
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:41,640
Her inspections, the surprise lighthouse service inspections were always perfect.

1509
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:48,240
They never caught her in a mess or disorganized and yeah, she did a whopping good job, not

1510
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:51,360
knowing if Nelson was alive or dead most of the time.

1511
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,320
So when he finally came back after the war, he had taken a musket ball to the lake and

1512
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,340
could no longer be the keeper.

1513
00:44:58,340 --> 00:45:02,820
So you'd think that she would be the logical choice for a replacement because she's just

1514
00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:05,900
done it for three and a half years perfectly.

1515
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:11,600
But the US lighthouse service told her that a woman cannot possibly be a lighthouse keeper.

1516
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,000
Yeah.

1517
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,840
And they gave the job to a man with no experience.

1518
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,840
Yeah.

1519
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,880
That irritates me every time I tell that story.

1520
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,160
So Eliza, she likes the tourists and she loves to watch the tours and she'll pop in and out.

1521
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,840
She's not there all the time, but we recently, probably a month ago, had four of Eliza Truckee's

1522
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,280
great great granddaughters visit us.

1523
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,280
Wow.

1524
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,280
Right?

1525
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,280
How cool is that?

1526
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,520
They contacted the museum and the museum contacted us and we met them and gave them a private

1527
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,680
tour and because Trish has had really good luck talking to Eliza with her equipment.

1528
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,000
So Eliza, sometimes she really likes Trish.

1529
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,400
I don't have much to do with her, but she really likes Trish and her equipment.

1530
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,000
She follows me around in the lighthouse.

1531
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,160
I carry a recorder with me as well as have them placed all around the lighthouse.

1532
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,320
And when I get home and listen, she's just chattering behind me and talking.

1533
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,560
And there was one time I had put one in the kitchen and she's well aware of what I do

1534
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,680
and what to do with the recorders.

1535
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,920
But I told her and so I went back to listen to it.

1536
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,920
She says, I heard you.

1537
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Trish had an attitude.

1538
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,200
Yeah.

1539
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,240
She's really cool.

1540
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:27,720
So sometimes we get her if she's there.

1541
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:33,960
But the major player who's there all the time, it is his lighthouse and he is still working

1542
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,320
is second assistant keeper Adam Byron Sales.

1543
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,980
And he passed away in the lighthouse in the 1940s, the late 1940s from a cardiac event

1544
00:46:42,980 --> 00:46:47,200
upstairs in his room overnight while he was sleeping.

1545
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,760
He was himself in his 40s when this happened.

1546
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,640
So he passed very young and he is a very strong presence there.

1547
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,160
He's not a big fan of the tourists because they're interrupting his work day.

1548
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,800
He's not a fan of women either.

1549
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:08,040
So we've kind of come to an understanding over the past few years and he's the one that

1550
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,320
seems to really understand the monetary side of things.

1551
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,140
He had a really colorful history with the lighthouse service.

1552
00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:17,120
He worked at Split Rock Lighthouse as well for a bit.

1553
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:26,040
And yeah, he was married a couple of times and there were some bootlegging rumors circulating.

1554
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,920
I've read through all his letters between him and the lighthouse service.

1555
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,840
He was an interesting character, but in poor health as well.

1556
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,240
He was a type one diabetic and often ill and whatnot.

1557
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,680
So he's still there and he's working.

1558
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,780
And if he's in the mood, he's told us how he passed.

1559
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:45,420
We've got an EBP of him telling us heart.

1560
00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:47,800
When we asked how he passed, he will say his name.

1561
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,440
He will say his son's names just to kind of show the tour who he is.

1562
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,920
And our director, Hillary, has actually put a framed picture of Keeper Sales and his sons

1563
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,400
in the lighthouse now, as well as a map of the park cemetery in Marquette showing guests

1564
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,400
where he's buried.

1565
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Oh, that's nice.

1566
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Yeah.

1567
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,400
Yeah.

1568
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,640
So he's very, very strong.

1569
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,680
Nobody slams a door like Keeper Sales.

1570
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:16,360
So there's one tied up shut and one has been removed from the hinges to stop that from

1571
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,360
happening.

1572
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,840
It's like you don't get to do this anymore.

1573
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,800
He really understands economics.

1574
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,200
It's really hard on your nerves, right?

1575
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,200
When you're standing there and a door just bam, it all footsteps.

1576
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,560
The other night sounded like boots on hardwood floor.

1577
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Very loud, very heavy.

1578
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,960
Yeah.

1579
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,440
Trish and I got run out of the lighthouse last summer by Keeper Sales, actually.

1580
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,980
We think it was him anyway.

1581
00:48:37,980 --> 00:48:42,240
We were going to stay late and investigate after one of our tours.

1582
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:46,560
And he gave us a lesson in I don't want you here and I'm going to scare you right out

1583
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,560
of this lighthouse.

1584
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,560
So he sure did.

1585
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,560
50 mile schedule.

1586
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Yeah.

1587
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:56,360
As we were leaving, like so much a flurry of activity happened that just I was, I've

1588
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,680
never been so scared in my life.

1589
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,640
But as we were hustling out the door, because we were done, I was just about to close the

1590
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,040
door and from the basement of the lighthouse, we heard a man's disembodied laugh.

1591
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,120
And nothing rattles me really, but that did.

1592
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,120
It did.

1593
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,480
And Trish looked at me and she's like, did you hear?

1594
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,480
And I said, yep.

1595
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,560
And we booked it down those steps.

1596
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Like something was chasing us because it felt like something was.

1597
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,160
He was having a wonderful laugh at our expense.

1598
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,680
I was never going to go back in the lighthouse again that night.

1599
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,680
I was done.

1600
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,680
But here we are.

1601
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Yes, I keep coming back.

1602
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,440
Susan, do you think it was him that touched your neck that day outside of the door?

1603
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,480
Yeah, absolutely.

1604
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,600
So fun story about that.

1605
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,280
We actually had a medium confirm that for us.

1606
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,160
I thought for a couple of months after that happened, I thought the other gal that got

1607
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,320
touched is a huskier gal as well.

1608
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,480
I thought he's got a thing for the plus size ladies.

1609
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,520
He's getting fresh with us.

1610
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,280
And Trish had told me to go in and tell him, you don't have my permission to touch me.

1611
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,880
Do not lay hands on me again.

1612
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,240
And I did that and he's never touched me again.

1613
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:06,600
A medium was communicating and reading the lighthouse and he told her that he was trying

1614
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,600
to push us down the stairs.

1615
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,560
He thought it was funny.

1616
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,000
I went in there after I heard that and I was mad.

1617
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,800
You push people down the stairs.

1618
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,800
How rude are you?

1619
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,920
I was slightly offended as well.

1620
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,920
Want some company.

1621
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,920
Yeah.

1622
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,920
Wow.

1623
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,880
I thought you found me attractive.

1624
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,880
I guess not.

1625
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,040
You never know how people express themselves.

1626
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,280
So he's quite the character.

1627
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,000
If he's in the mood to talk and perform, we'll get oodles of evidence.

1628
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,040
But if he's not feeling it, he'll just stonewall us and we get nothing.

1629
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,920
So can you always tell who is visiting you during the tours?

1630
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,760
Is it a trademark for some of them to be doing something specific?

1631
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,360
I think he's the one that we hear the boots most of the time.

1632
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,360
Walking.

1633
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,360
Yeah.

1634
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,360
We'll hear him walking.

1635
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,720
He'll talk to us as well.

1636
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:01,920
When he shows up or when he wants to talk, everybody else backs off.

1637
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:07,640
He's so strong that the rest of them seem to just defer to him when it's his time to

1638
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,640
talk.

1639
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:09,640
I think Eliza.

1640
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,440
I feel like I can feel her around me.

1641
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,680
It's like a feminine energy.

1642
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,920
If I listen back, I can hear her talking to me.

1643
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:26,880
I think she likes what we do because we're women probably.

1644
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,320
And David, I have a great rapport with little David.

1645
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,120
Him and I get along wonderfully.

1646
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,040
And he's always in the basement for the most part.

1647
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,120
If we go down there and there's lights and toys and stuff, that's where we're going to

1648
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,120
get him interacting.

1649
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,680
And his energy is really warm and it's tingly and you can feel him around you.

1650
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,680
It's the neatest thing.

1651
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,680
And he'll move around the tour.

1652
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,400
He's curious about people.

1653
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,360
Somebody might get a little pinch or their hand grabbed or just feel like almost warm

1654
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,040
air swirling around you.

1655
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,000
We always tell them to watch for the spider web feeling as well.

1656
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Granted, there are some big spiders up there.

1657
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,640
But if that spider webby feeling, that can be paranormal energy moving around.

1658
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,720
So is there anything specific that you have to do on your tours that elicit a response

1659
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:14,000
or is your presence alone enough?

1660
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,360
We don't really have to do anything.

1661
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,040
They're always there pretty much.

1662
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,680
If they don't want to talk to you, they don't.

1663
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,680
Yeah.

1664
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,000
It's not a command performance, but they know we're up there.

1665
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,160
We only do it once a month.

1666
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,040
We tried once a week the one summer and they didn't like it.

1667
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,920
They seemed annoyed almost.

1668
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,480
And they just started ghosting us.

1669
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,640
And so we backed it off to once a month and they seem to tolerate that pretty well.

1670
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,040
Because they've got three daytime tours coming through as well.

1671
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,640
They don't soak them and aren't trying to communicate with them, but it's still an interruption

1672
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
in their day.

1673
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:56,720
And when we go in before the tour, or I do, I'll spend an hour with them and I just remind

1674
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,760
them that we're going to have people coming through here.

1675
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,760
I hope that's okay.

1676
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,040
But they're doing it because they want to learn about you.

1677
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,480
They want to learn about the lighthouse, but they're also paying money to do it.

1678
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,880
So they get something out of it too.

1679
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,800
And I feel like they respond to that.

1680
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:24,200
We acknowledge that they're not like, people aren't there to mock them or make fun of them

1681
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,200
or anything.

1682
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,360
And I do think they like that we respect them.

1683
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,700
Very much done in a very respectful, non-provoking manner.

1684
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,680
And we're very careful about who comes in and how they act.

1685
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,480
Other paranormal teams, some of Trisha's friends, paranormal teams that she's friends with,

1686
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,560
have come in with her.

1687
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,240
But we don't let just Joe Blow and his team from wherever come in and investigate.

1688
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,920
We don't know what people are going to do or invite or provoke.

1689
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,520
And it's wonderful up there.

1690
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,520
They're just wonderful.

1691
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,960
So we are very careful to protect them.

1692
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:57,960
That's good.

1693
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,960
That's awesome work.

1694
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,440
So Trisha, it sounds like you said you spent about an hour setting up before setting up

1695
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,760
your equipment.

1696
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,320
And then my curious mind is thinking about all this data.

1697
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,760
How do you go through all of the recordings and all of that after the fact?

1698
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,760
A hard part.

1699
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,680
Like I said, I was just there Saturday night.

1700
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,600
And what I'll do is we got that scream.

1701
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,200
And so that's the first thing I wanted to check out was what I caught it on.

1702
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,120
That way, you know, that's kind of that was the highlight of that night.

1703
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,400
So I already know I have that.

1704
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,400
I listen back.

1705
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,400
I can hear it.

1706
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,740
So then now I can take my time listening to the recorder.

1707
00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:38,680
So I'll just while I'm cleaning the house, I'll throw a recorder on and listen to it

1708
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,480
while I'm cleaning or when everyone's asleep at night.

1709
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,640
Because I have adult children that won't move out.

1710
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:49,880
So yeah, but it is it is daunting sometimes.

1711
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:55,480
You literally start falling asleep from the white noise from the recorders.

1712
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,880
And it's hard to go through literally an hour without wanting to go to sleep.

1713
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,600
Yeah, gotta take that work home with you.

1714
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,560
And then you guys are close, it sounds like.

1715
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,960
So you get together and kind of talk about what's going on with the analysis and maybe

1716
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,360
what you heard that month on the tour.

1717
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,880
Or is that just kind of come up and natural?

1718
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,040
Susan can't come for whatever reason.

1719
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,300
I message you here.

1720
00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:21,300
We heard this.

1721
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:22,300
We heard that.

1722
00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:24,800
Yeah, actually, this weekend was a great example of that.

1723
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,960
The Maritime Museum and Lighthouse just had we did our big Halloween fundraiser that we

1724
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,960
do every year.

1725
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,800
It's called the Ghosts Lighthouse Point.

1726
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,640
And we do it for three nights.

1727
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,260
And it's all volunteer driven.

1728
00:55:35,260 --> 00:55:40,320
So the entire grounds of the museum and lighthouse are set up with different stations of volunteers

1729
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,960
portraying historical figures, but the ghost version and just some spooky, creepy Halloween

1730
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,200
fun like werewolves and whatnot.

1731
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Roll grounds.

1732
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,440
And we have tours that go every 15 minutes with volunteer guides that are also dressed

1733
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,040
up and carrying spooky lanterns.

1734
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,240
And so they'll take people all over to each station.

1735
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,360
And then the pinnacle is coming up to the lighthouse and coming through.

1736
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,920
So this year we had a couple of volunteers portraying Nelson and Eliza Truckee.

1737
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:07,920
Yeah.

1738
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,920
Yeah.

1739
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,920
And then a man portraying keeper sales yelling, get out of my lighthouse from the dark.

1740
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,480
Then they come to the tower at the end.

1741
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:22,640
And I am on the tower stairs, all creepy and ghosted up and either being a crazy woman

1742
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:27,320
or with a cardboard sign that says kissing booth, two souls, no refunds.

1743
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,360
And then they walk out the front doors and back down.

1744
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,360
And that's the end of it.

1745
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,320
And that's with three nights from 7 to 10 PM and hundreds and hundreds of people had

1746
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,320
come through.

1747
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,080
And then Trish was coming up Saturday night after we were done with a team that she's

1748
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,960
friends with from Wisconsin.

1749
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,680
And I bowed out because I was just whipped from staying up late a few nights in a row.

1750
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,760
And I knew they were going to have a good time because when I was in the tower, I heard

1751
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,400
footsteps above me coming towards the door, big heavy footsteps.

1752
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,720
And I yelled down to Eliza Truckee, our volunteer, and asked if her husband was upstairs.

1753
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,760
And she says, no, he's right here.

1754
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,720
And I'm, okay.

1755
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:07,960
It was also really windy and the lake was really roaring.

1756
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,760
And that's between all those people and the waves being big, that's going to give you

1757
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,380
some good activity typically.

1758
00:57:14,380 --> 00:57:18,080
And sure enough, Trish heard the same big footsteps with that team.

1759
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,800
But when she's not there, I get, I'm like, oh, I know Susan would love this.

1760
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,400
That's why I have to mess with her and everything that's going on.

1761
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,320
I'm like, it's three o'clock in the morning, but I don't care.

1762
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,320
I'm going to mess with her anyway.

1763
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,320
I read that message.

1764
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,320
Heck yeah, that was great.

1765
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,120
So besides the things that you've mentioned, has there anything that's been really shocking?

1766
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,680
Like anything that, like you've been leading a tour and you've been shocked by something

1767
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,680
that happens?

1768
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,680
Oh, the screen.

1769
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,600
Yeah, that's a bad one.

1770
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,320
I would say that the secret word game, the nub story.

1771
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:56,320
So Trish came up with a way to interact with the ghosts basically.

1772
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,040
And we played what's called the secret word game.

1773
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:04,400
And so we will, when we're up at the lighthouse and Trish is setting up, we'll come up with

1774
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,600
what the secret word is going to be for that night.

1775
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,200
And sometimes we'll let somebody else pick it.

1776
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:14,160
It can be random sausage, whatever, like just a random word.

1777
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,400
Well a couple of years ago, I lost my dog.

1778
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,360
My beloved nub was her name and she was so sweet.

1779
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,480
And I lost her before we did a paranormal tour.

1780
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,080
And so we were setting up and I'm telling the ghosts how horrible my week has been and

1781
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,080
my dog passed away.

1782
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,600
Our secret word tonight is going to be nubs.

1783
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,280
Because that's not a common word that you're going to get through a radio frequency or

1784
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,680
a random app.

1785
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,760
That's a hard one to debunk.

1786
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,760
And so we always say, remember it and repeat it later, please, if you could.

1787
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:50,240
And that'll show the guests how good you guys are, that sort of thing.

1788
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Sometimes they're not in the mood to play the secret word game, but probably seven out

1789
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,320
of 10 times they're going to play because they like it.

1790
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,800
But I went down and picked up the tour and I'm telling them my dog just died and I'm

1791
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,120
starting to cry and I'm like, okay, drain it in.

1792
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,240
So we're going to play the secret word game when we get up to the lighthouse.

1793
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,680
And our word tonight, we already told the ghosts up there, I'm telling you guys now,

1794
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,680
our word is nubs.

1795
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,160
That was the name of my dog.

1796
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,160
And they're like, okay.

1797
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,960
But probably I'm not, they're not wrong.

1798
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,960
Anyway, so we go up, we're doing our thing.

1799
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,480
This was the end of the tour, we went down to the winch room in the basement and Trish,

1800
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,560
I can't remember what you were using one of your apps.

1801
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:31,200
I guess it was a phone app that I was just trying out the spirit box app she was trying.

1802
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,560
And so we're getting random stuff coming through.

1803
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,680
And she said, do you remember the secret word from earlier?

1804
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,680
Can you, can you say it?

1805
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,840
And we're getting garble garble, nothing, you know, and she asked again, and I had my

1806
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:48,920
phone out and was doing Facebook live from, and sure enough, right on Facebook live, nubs.

1807
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,840
Comes through, there's anything.

1808
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:58,520
And I of course, you know, so we crop that down and that's on the YouTube channel as

1809
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,520
well.

1810
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:04,200
But interest enough, we heard them say nubs four times that night in different spots in

1811
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,680
the lighthouse with different equities.

1812
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,360
So and to this day, they may not, you know, tell us the name of so and so on the tour

1813
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,800
or, you know, the secret word that night, but I can often say what was the name of my

1814
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,840
dog that passed away and we'll get nubs.

1815
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:26,320
So there was a moment where something kind of shocking happened when Susan did the very

1816
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:34,520
first late night investigation with you prepare normal and we had a news crew with us.

1817
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:41,040
And there was a man who came over the spirit box and said, hello, Susan.

1818
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,800
We actually, there was a TV crew doing a Halloween special and that's on YouTube as well.

1819
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,000
We can email you guys a link to that if you want to watch it.

1820
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,200
You can watch the horrified look on my face.

1821
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,200
Oh my God.

1822
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,200
I was so scared.

1823
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,000
Anyway, now when it happens, it's like a party trick and we know who it is and it's like,

1824
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,000
hey, how's it going?

1825
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,200
But that first time, oh my God, she was white as a ghost.

1826
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,200
Pretty freaky.

1827
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,600
But yeah, as soon as you go in that lighthouse, they know who you are and I don't know how

1828
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,880
that works, but they quite often they'll give us the name of somebody on the tour.

1829
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,240
We can say what's this person's name or it's super weird.

1830
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,760
They said one of the names of one of the girls that was with me Saturday very clearly.

1831
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:24,320
And they'll get fancy and they'll give you a last name sometimes too.

1832
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,480
Or what somebody does for a living.

1833
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:33,520
The one gal, the one time they said weed and she was a bud tent.

1834
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:39,640
Has anyone on the tour ever just freaked out and been like, I'm done, I'm going to leave?

1835
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,560
People leave sometimes because it's powerful.

1836
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,680
If they get really close to you, you get physically affected, like you can have a headache, you

1837
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,960
can start to feel some shortness of breath.

1838
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,680
And we ask them, if you feel that, please let us know and we'll go outside and get some

1839
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,680
fresh air.

1840
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:58,040
But yeah, we have had people really uncomfortable and leave because it's real.

1841
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,560
And sometimes I think people don't realize that it's the real deal.

1842
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,560
And that's overwhelming.

1843
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,440
I can't remember if he left as soon as he got to the door.

1844
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,440
Yeah, he did.

1845
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,000
He was having chest pain right out of the gate.

1846
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,320
That could be the 46 stairs to get up there too.

1847
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,600
Definitely could be that.

1848
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:21,840
But yeah, the moment you walk in, you can feel it's not your normal energy.

1849
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:27,120
And sometimes a couple tours ago here, we had a new, I don't know, there was an energy

1850
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,520
up there that we haven't run into before and it was very strong and it seemed very curious

1851
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,400
and almost invasive and it was right up on us.

1852
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,320
And it was just a lot and we kind of wrapped up and departed because I don't know who it

1853
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,320
was.

1854
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,360
We had some really difficult peeps, but we didn't really want to.

1855
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:47,280
No, I got a headache, a really bad headache and very nauseous.

1856
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,080
I've never been that sick to my stomach.

1857
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,080
Yeah.

1858
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,960
And it was just whoever it was, was just very, very strong and they were right curious about

1859
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:56,960
what we were up to.

1860
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,760
And because of that closeness, it was, you know how when you tell, you can tell someone

1861
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,360
standing over your shoulder.

1862
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,360
Yeah.

1863
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,440
It literally felt like there was someone standing looking over my shoulder.

1864
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,440
It was very uncomfortable.

1865
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,440
It was like breathing down your neck.

1866
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,520
It was like, what are you doing almost?

1867
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,520
It was just really weird.

1868
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,520
Yeah.

1869
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,520
Strange.

1870
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,040
Wasn't there the last few nights, so that was good.

1871
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,040
That's good.

1872
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,120
That's really interesting.

1873
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,920
Are most of your guests on these haunted tours, are they guests that have been on the other

1874
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,880
tour that is more standard or are they kind of standalone?

1875
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,880
It depends.

1876
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,000
We actually have had, so the tours are 18 and up.

1877
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960
Just to be clear, we don't let kids on the paranormal tours.

1878
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:39,120
A lot of people have come specifically to town for the paranormal tour.

1879
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,480
We've had some people coming in from out of town just to do that.

1880
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,520
So we always recommend that they visit the Maritime Museum the next day, you know, and

1881
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,000
grab a daytime tour if you want more history as well.

1882
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,480
But we do have some locals that come up as well.

1883
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,400
And we have some locals come up for the paranormal tour that have never done a regular lighthouse

1884
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:57,800
tour there and they live there forever.

1885
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,000
Well, a lot of them, they see it on Facebook on the You Proper Paranormal page and they're

1886
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,520
like, oh, I want to try that.

1887
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,680
And then some of them come back every time.

1888
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,320
Yeah, we have people that will come on tours because they liked it so much.

1889
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,320
So that's kind of neat.

1890
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,320
Amazing.

1891
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:12,320
That's really special.

1892
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,320
It's never the same.

1893
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,320
Yeah.

1894
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,160
Are they does the time of the tour vary as well kind of depending on how you guys are

1895
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,520
feeling and how things go?

1896
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,200
The date of the tour is usually subject to our schedules in the summer.

1897
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,240
We got to find a date when we're both free to do it.

1898
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,880
But we usually try to stick with 7 p.m.

1899
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,120
We don't want to be up there in the dark.

1900
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,400
When I say we, I mean, I don't want to be up there in the dark.

1901
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,480
The vibe changes when it's dark.

1902
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,160
And it's almost like when it gets dark, they don't want you up there.

1903
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,160
That's their time.

1904
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,920
Get out is kind of the vibe I get.

1905
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,640
So we try to keep it.

1906
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,760
This last one that we did in September, it was getting pretty dark when we wrapped up

1907
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,280
about nine and I was, come on, folks, let's move it out the door.

1908
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,600
People are like, oh, it's really spooky up here in the dark.

1909
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,600
I'm like, get out.

1910
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:01,520
Because I don't want them to have that maniacal laugh experience that will make them have

1911
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,520
nightmares for weeks.

1912
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,640
You know, I don't want to scare them to the point where they tell people not to do it.

1913
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,920
So we try to keep it to early evening seems to be a good time.

1914
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,640
But some of the coolest stuff I've seen up there or heard up there has happened in broad

1915
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,640
daylight Tuesday afternoon.

1916
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,120
Like it's nothing to do with it.

1917
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,960
It's yeah, it's neat.

1918
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,240
They're there during the day.

1919
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,240
They're there at night.

1920
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,240
They're there all the time.

1921
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,240
All the time.

1922
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,240
Yeah.

1923
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,840
But it's neat when you walk in and you hear a closet door slide open.

1924
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,400
But you know, you're the only people in the lighthouse and there's no one in that room.

1925
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,720
And then you go into that room and you close the closet door and you're like, that was

1926
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,720
neat.

1927
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,560
That sort of thing.

1928
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,960
We had a group of guys that came.

1929
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,840
They were standing in front of the door when they heard the loud knocks coming from the

1930
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,840
closet.

1931
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:46,840
Yeah, three big boom, boom.

1932
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,840
It scared them a little bit.

1933
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,440
Oh, that one guy was almost hanging onto my leg like a koala.

1934
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,880
It was great.

1935
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,880
But oh, that was the same tour.

1936
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,080
That was the asshole tour.

1937
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,080
Yes.

1938
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,120
So we were downstairs with these people and there was three young guys.

1939
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,960
They got the knocks in the closet.

1940
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:02,960
They were scared from that.

1941
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,280
But we'd said, can you tell us the name of this gentleman?

1942
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:11,080
And through the spirit box, we hear asshole.

1943
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,000
His friends are laughing and they're like, that's right.

1944
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,320
You know, I was horrified because we've never heard profanity.

1945
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,320
Yeah.

1946
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,880
So anyway, that was, that was new.

1947
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:22,880
But yeah.

1948
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,880
Must have been a very special guest.

1949
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,880
Yeah.

1950
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,280
At least they found it funny and no one was offended.

1951
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,280
But yeah.

1952
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,720
Are you guys going to come up for a tour?

1953
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,720
Where are you guys based?

1954
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,720
We would love to.

1955
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:41,720
We're in Kansas City, so we're smack dab in the middle of no lighthouses at all around

1956
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,720
us.

1957
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,080
But yeah, we've got nothing around.

1958
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,360
But we do make a trip about every year to go see a couple of lighthouses.

1959
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,320
And Marquette's been on our list since we did an interview with Fred Stonehouse and

1960
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,320
Carl Lindquist.

1961
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,320
Yeah.

1962
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,760
Well, if you guys come up, let us know and we would be very pleased to give you a private

1963
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:00,760
paranormal tour.

1964
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,400
And if you want to do a late night paranormal tour, I'm sure Susan will be more than happy

1965
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,400
to sit there.

1966
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,280
I would love to be up there in the dark with you guys.

1967
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,280
We would never do that to you.

1968
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,280
You guys want to do that?

1969
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,280
But no, come on up.

1970
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,200
We'll take you, take you through and introduce you to our ghosts.

1971
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,200
That'd be amazing.

1972
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,200
Yeah.

1973
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,240
I would love to cover all of the haunted, the spooky stuff.

1974
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:26,960
And there seems to be so many instances of haunted lighthouses and spooky things going

1975
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:27,960
on.

1976
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:32,580
And Vince and I have talked about on the podcast, it's like, you know, lighthouses are for guiding

1977
01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:35,800
people, they're for bringing people to safety or keeping people away from stuff.

1978
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:41,160
And so we talked about like when people pass on and they hang out, like they're drawn to

1979
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,440
the lighthouse because it is a point of guidance for people.

1980
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:50,120
And maybe that's why it's so common for lighthouses to be somewhere where they may have permanent

1981
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,120
residence.

1982
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,120
I like that.

1983
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,120
I would have never thought of that.

1984
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,120
But yeah, it makes sense.

1985
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,120
Yeah, it's awesome.

1986
01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,840
But see ours now, I don't know about other lighthouses, but ours, it sits on a quartz

1987
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,000
hill.

1988
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,160
It's got that powerful lake right there.

1989
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,040
It's got so much rich history.

1990
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,000
So I think that's, that's why ours is haunted and will be forever.

1991
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,320
It's really interesting.

1992
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,280
You guys must come check it out sometime.

1993
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,720
Yep, it will definitely it's definitely on our list high up there.

1994
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,120
Appreciate you doing the work.

1995
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,720
It sounds like Marquette's full of special people.

1996
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,760
I mean, talking with the other two gentlemen and and then hearing from you guys about all

1997
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,160
the volunteering efforts.

1998
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:36,160
And of course, the story with every lighthouse today is all the maintenance and all the significance.

1999
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,760
But culturally, every lighthouse that we look at, there's always a good story.

2000
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,760
There's always something interesting.

2001
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:43,760
There's tourism.

2002
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,320
I mean, we're a little bit biased, right?

2003
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,640
But seems to be growing and learning more about it.

2004
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:49,800
So it's really awesome.

2005
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:50,800
I had no idea.

2006
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,680
I moved here from Saskatchewan six years ago.

2007
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,920
And so I'm also from no lighthouses, no big water.

2008
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,520
And I think that fell in love with it at first sight and wanted to volunteer and be a part

2009
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,520
of it.

2010
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,160
But Fred Stonehouse, you guys know what a treasure he is.

2011
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:13,160
So he is the chairman of our board and just a tireless, tireless spokesperson and a wonderful

2012
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,000
man as far as maritime history and that lighthouse.

2013
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,000
He's a treasure.

2014
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,640
Well, thank you so much very, very much for doing this for us.

2015
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,680
We are very happy to get to talk to you.

2016
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,840
And we're going to post this the day before Halloween.

2017
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,280
So hopefully our listeners enjoy some spooky content.

2018
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:30,280
Awesome.

2019
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,320
Are we able to listen to you guys on any streaming?

2020
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:40,960
Or we're on anywhere you listen to podcasts, we're Apple, Google, Spotify, Pandora, all

2021
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:41,960
of that.

2022
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:47,920
We also have YouTube where we post pictures as we're talking about anything to do with

2023
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,920
the lighthouse.

2024
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:49,920
So people watch that as well.

2025
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,920
Awesome.

2026
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,000
If you send us a link, we would love to check it out.

2027
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,000
Absolutely.

2028
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,240
And you guys have your YouTube, right?

2029
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,480
As well as?

2030
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:01,600
Yes, you prepare normal.

2031
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,680
You'll be able to see our, I think I've only put a handful of videos up there just for

2032
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,960
lack of time, but the techie stuff.

2033
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:10,960
Yeah.

2034
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:11,960
Yeah.

2035
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,480
Secret word game, the nubs thing and little David on the SLS camera.

2036
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,360
Those three are up there so far.

2037
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,920
Go on the paranormal page.

2038
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:27,680
I posted the video of the scream that we captured.

2039
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,160
It tells you when it's when it comes on.

2040
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:36,680
So yeah, it says I did put earphones recommended or whatever, but everyone's told me here without

2041
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,680
it.

2042
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,760
That's like that.

2043
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,420
I've never heard anybody scream up there.

2044
01:10:40,420 --> 01:10:47,560
So that was my son happened to come with me because he was helping me film some stuff for

2045
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:48,960
another event thing.

2046
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:56,120
And he was standing on the hallway and he was actually the one who heard it first and

2047
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,400
scared the jeepers out of him.

2048
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,400
That's awesome.

2049
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,640
Well, I'll include some links.

2050
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,480
Yeah, I think, I think that's all the questions we had.

2051
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:05,480
Okay.

2052
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:06,480
Well, it was lovely to meet you both.

2053
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:07,480
Thanks for having us on.

2054
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:08,480
So nice to meet you.

2055
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:29,840
You're the best I've ever met.