Episode 93 - Green Island Lighthouse, British Columbia

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hi everybody i'm emily and i'm vince and this

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is the lighthouse lowdown we're back who am i

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even talking to what are we even doing where

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are we so weird so unusual we're in studio number

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four oh no i think it's like six how do you say

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that there's been revisions Oh, I don't count

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revisions. I count full location change. So first

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was Jarboe. Second was Cambridge. Third was down

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south. Yeah. Fourth is 98. Yeah. Studio 98. Well,

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maybe we shouldn't tell people where we live.

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We live, our address is exactly, no, I'm just

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kidding. In view of a lighthouse. But yeah, there's

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a lot has happened in the approximately seven

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months, almost exactly seven months since we

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last recorded. Sorry to all of our listeners.

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Thank you for checking in and sticking with us

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because we did promise that we would be back.

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Yeah. However, our promise was that we'd be back

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very soon. And that was a lie. So just real brief

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for the listeners. I talked about the Edmund

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Fitzgerald. You were not feeling well. Sorry.

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And then we got married. Yes. Hold on. Our last.

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Yeah. Got to learn those keys again. Our last

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episode was the Christmas episode, Newport Harbor.

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For real? Yes. And then I did Green Island before

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that. So you're thinking that you participated

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recently and that's not true. You weren't feeling

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good. Maybe that was the bridal shower. Oh, yes.

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It was the bridal shower. Living with the in

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-laws, getting ready to get married. We built

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and made almost everything that was at our wedding

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by hand. Yeah, we did a lot. It was a lot. Emily

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did a lot, especially. I developed a mental health

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disorder called panic disorder. She's doing good

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now. And now, yeah. So a lot of factors went

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into us pushing back. And then? Starting this

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again. Hang on, I'm going in order. So I had

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some problems that I had to work through. There

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was a lot on my plate, and it took until now

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to recover from all of the pressure and the constant

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tasks and, you know, the difficulties of getting

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married when you're type A and very anxious.

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It was a lot. It is a bad combination. It was

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a lot. But the wedding was incredible. We had

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so much fun. Best day of my life. It was the

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best day of my life, too. Okay, excellent. So

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we're on the same page. Yeah, I've said that

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a couple times now, but not on air. Now it's

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immortalized. But it was awesome. And then we

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had a mini moon. We went to Branson. That was

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fun. That was fun. And then we bought a house.

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We closed on a house in January. And that has

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been a whole challenge. Probably the biggest

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challenge. We've encountered thus far in life.

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Like briefly. So very exciting to have a house.

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We have been very blessed the last year, I would

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say. We've got so many good things happening

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to us, but it's been very stressful. Lucky to

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be able to have a house. Unlucky in our house

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selection. Well, yeah. We got... We didn't buy

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the right house as far as the condition it was

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in. We thought we bought a house, we wouldn't

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have to do anything. Maybe a slight paint job

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or something. And since then, I have replaced

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all the plumbing in the house. Drain, waste,

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vent, new water pipes, all of it. Electricals,

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we had structural problems. We had structural

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issues in the basement and in the den. Mold,

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dead mice in the vents. Mold, flooding. Yeah,

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water, yeah. Yep. And so we've done a bunch of

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side projects as well as like very Bob the Builder

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chapter of our lives. Yeah. Vince has been just

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the handyman. I have been trying to participate

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in certain areas. It's been good. Yeah. And also

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after that, what happened next related to the

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lighthouse slowdown? Then in March, or was it

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April? I mean, the house stuff is still ongoing,

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just so you know. It all just melds together.

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Yeah, let's not pretend that we don't have no

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walls downstairs. Yeah, we don't have walls in

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the house. For context, the house was built in

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the 60s. 61. 1961. Early as it gets. And the

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plumbing was original, galvanized steel, which

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is heavily advised against now because... Oh,

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they'd never build it now. Yeah, because it corrodes

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very easily. And that's where our pipes were.

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We had like a clearance of about a pea size in

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all of our drains. That's the drainage. Yes.

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And then the electrical expired before Vince

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was born. Yep, 95. So we're 30 years past its

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expiration date. Huge fire risk. Yeah. And the

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pressure. So you talked about the pea -sized

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opening in the piping. That's the waste and drain

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piping. The supply water piping, there is low

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pressure. So there's a pressure reducing valve.

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They had the house pressure set to 30 PSI and

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I raised it up. It can be up to 80 technically

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by code. And I raised it to 60 and we started

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getting leaks on a bunch of small joints. So

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the previous owners hid horrible, awful, terrible

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piping that can't be cleaned out. awful, terrible

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piping that leaks when it's at an appropriate

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pressure. Like you can shower and all that. Yeah.

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And mold and what else? They had to have been

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sick. Structural issues. The mold was unbelievable.

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Yeah. I smelled it. I was like, oh, we have a

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mold problem. Yeah. So we're really getting in

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there. We really got into every nook and cranny

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of this place. But you know what? What? That's

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what lighthouse people do. We've talked time

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and time again. Lighthouse people get after it.

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Yeah, they're renovating lighthouses. We're renovating

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house. The lowdown. The lowdown house. And then,

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sorry I interrupted you. You're good. What happened

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next? So we went to Boise State and we did a

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lecture, a two -hour lecture. um for the osher

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institute on lighthouse history and um lighthouses

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in the 21st century so really cool we kicked

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butt i will be honest i am not a public speaker

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but now i'm kind of convinced that i can be if

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i wanted to oh yeah because especially on that

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topic i was well vince took off a lot of pressure

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because i was like i'm not getting up there I'm

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not speaking and Vince was like okay I'll do

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it but then I got there and I was like I can

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do this because it's a subject that I love and

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that I know and these people all gathered with

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the expectation to learn more about what I love

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to talk about so yeah it ended up being really

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great yeah for for those of you who were there

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if you're listening yeah thanks for joining us

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and it really was a blast we had we had so much

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fun Great questions. Everyone was involved. Just

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a really great crowd. Yeah, for those who weren't

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there, most of you, I would guess. So it's a

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lifelong learning institution, and it's sponsored

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by Boise State University. So we got to speak

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on campus. I'm pretty sure it was a community

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center. I think of all of Boise as on campus.

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That's not accurate. It's very near campus, if

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not on campus. I think it's on campus. I think

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it was on campus. But right on the river walk.

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And the group was probably aged 40 to 90. About

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150 people. So we had a great turnout. great

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turnout i had some family that got to attend

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and sit in the back it was a lot of fun take

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some videos yeah but i was i was really nervous

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like working on the presentation right up to

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the minute we went in there yeah we struggled

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sipping coffee yeah so but my mom lives in boise

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uh my sister lives up there and so we had some

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family connections and that was one of the questions

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they asked us they're like why do you guys like

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lighthouses? And why are you here? And we, you

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know, the second one, I was like, Oh yeah, yeah,

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you know, it's obvious to me, but yeah, they,

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uh, we got some good feedback from that. And

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I tried to record the presentation. Um, things

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were pretty chaotic and I focused on being present.

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So I don't think the recording is good quality,

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but I'll check it out. We'll see. Um, and if

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not, what we'll do is show you some slides and

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talk about it in the future on one of my episodes,

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if that's all right. Yeah. I mean, it was just,

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it was really cool. Like to go from what we've

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talked about over the past three years, four

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years, four years, and then go assume, you know,

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what if they don't know anything about lighthouses

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and we have to be able to be entertaining and

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educating and accurate. Yeah. Without going so

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in depth that someone who doesn't know anything

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would be lost. And so it was, it was, Good to,

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it felt like an honor to talk about the other

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societies within the Lighthouse community. And

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I actually kind of learned a lot by doing that

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research. Yeah, good recap. I clarified a lot

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of stuff, yeah, that I didn't know all the details

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of. And I don't know, it was good for us too.

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Good review. You know, sit next to somebody on

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a plane and they want to talk to you. Well, I

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can talk for two hours on Lighthouses. It's a

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special skill. Yeah, but I was nervous. Yeah,

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you took like the rest of the day. To calm down.

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Mm -hmm. Needed a good reset nap. Yep. I did

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take a nap. Yeah, yeah. And then, what, I mean,

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that was what, April? I think it was. March or

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April? Either March or April. I can't remember.

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Probably April. We had just bought our house.

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Projects were started. Oh, yeah. Emily. Because

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while we were gone, there was no toilets. Oh,

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my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, guys. I'm doing it all.

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So, I did everything but the structural so far.

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Mm -hmm. I'm trying to. We might hire stuff out,

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but, you know. As of now. Fighting the fight

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right now. Right. And then we've had professional

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changes and opportunities come up. And we've

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had family excitement. And my twin sister got

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married in June. She did. And my older sister

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got engaged in March to be married in March next

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year. So there's a bunch of. I have responsibilities,

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but also lots of excitement coming. Yeah. Planning,

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putting on some events, supporting the sisters.

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That's been some time. Yeah. And, you know, my

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family, there's no like notable specific things,

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but there's a lot going on still. Just figuring

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out how to spend more time together when everyone's

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so separated. Yeah. But, you know, since the

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Osher, I don't know, we probably spent 80 hours.

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Getting ready for 40 hours at least. I think

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in increments of 40, but a bunch of hours getting

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ready for that. And then it was so much fun.

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And then I posted on LinkedIn, hey, we're coming

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back. And then, you know, we've continued to

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face challenges. So we're really excited just

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to be on air. Yeah, we're doing it. And back.

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We're back, baby. And I've got some decaf and

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it's enough to get me talking here. So I should

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shut up. You already half downed it. Yeah, I

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should let you talk. Have we gotten 151 coffees

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since our break? No, it's a new not sponsor of

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ours. Yeah, another coffee expenditure for our

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podcast. That's right, we're investing. 151 coffee,

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it's very good. I got cinnamon dulce. Yep, and

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I'm drinking a German chocolate. Sugar -free,

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decaf. Yeah, less caff. I'll let you take on.

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And another thing I want to mention is that moving

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forward for now, we're going to be posting once

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a month instead of twice a month. We're going

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to ease back in. We have a good grip on what's

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going on in our lives right now. And I don't

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think we should shock it with doing something

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different. It's a lot of hard work, especially

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on my part, having to edit. post and manage and

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like all the notes and stuff so once a month

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will be much more reliable yeah i'm excited i'm

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like we talked about it between us but we want

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to go we want to get it started and keep it going

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but inevitably things are going to continue to

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be exciting in our lives so yeah if you know

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we're not we don't have sponsors we're not making

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money so what are we yeah and when we talked

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about what are we doing you know letting this

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die the answer was always no like oh no but you

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could just push it off for forever. And so I'm

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glad we're just pulling the trigger and starting

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this up again. Let's get this bad boy on the

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road. Thanks to everyone that reached out. We

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got lots of messages in the past six months about

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if we're coming back and they miss us and they're,

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you know, listening to our episodes and people

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talking about certain episodes that they were

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listening to and commentary on. So thank you

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for all of our listeners for sticking around

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and hopefully you're happy that. We're back because

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we're happy we're back. Let's go. I am continuing.

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That was technically our history buoy. It's fair.

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It's a fair amount of history. So I'll start

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our lighthouse and I'm continuing the series

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on Green Island Lighthouse. Okay. There are quite

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a few. We're not even halfway done. So Newport

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Harbor was a break. from our Green Island. And

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that break ended up being six months. And now

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we're back with the next Green Island lighthouse.

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This time in British Columbia. So we're not even

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in the USA this time. All right. Close, but not

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quite. We covered the one in Wisconsin and Ohio.

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And both of those were in ruins. I don't know

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if it's trying to ring some bells for you. Yeah,

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both were on the doomsday list. Now both removed

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because. doomsday has occurred it sucks it happens

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we can't save them all but the one that we're

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talking to today is well cared for and still

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staffed so the polar opposite of what has happened

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in our past green island lighthouses so this

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is the northernmost lighthouse in british columbia

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so as far up as you can go it's built on green

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island and they say that They named it this because

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it's as far from green as you can possibly get,

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like very rocky, barren. Okay. Oh, I forgot.

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Where the heck have we been? I have a history

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of a slide. All good. So I pulled up a map. You

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can see we have Alaska starting, and we have

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a Green Island lighthouse right on the border

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before that happens. And then I will zoom in.

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You can see it's in a straight and between. two

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clumps of islands yeah it took me a while to

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figure out where we're at i was like alaska we're

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at the south part of alaska so yeah we're at

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the little southern tail okay yeah ketchikan

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ketchikan's a fair size oh spot we're very much

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near i forget that you know a lot of alaskan

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geography ah some people would say a lot some

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people would very much say not any but i think

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ketchikan here's i'm gonna show my Knowledge.

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Okay, excellent. Or lack of. Yeah. I think it's

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one of the spots that some ships do stop on the

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north and south cruise lines. That would make

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sense. I know Juneau, obviously Anchorage, but

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like Ketchikan I've heard of, and that's why

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I think I've heard of it. Yeah. Because this

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lighthouse is, it's, this island specifically

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is on the way to and from shipping to Skagway.

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and other northern cities along the Inside Passage.

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Have you heard of that? Yes. Okay, because that's

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kind of where this is all laid out. Yep. I figured

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what you were talking about is probably on the

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same passage. Yeah, yeah. You have to, the cruise

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ships, and I'm sure all shipping ships, take

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that passage to avoid the rough exterior. Yeah.

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For our listeners, Inside Passage is the waterways

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all along the west coast of Canada, parts of

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Alaska, and ends in Washington. So that's kind

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of fun. There's a little connection between everything.

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Super cool. So in 1897, the Klondike Gold Rush

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increased maritime traffic in the region. And

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I don't really know exactly the history behind

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it, but there was some steamer that showed up

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in Seattle filled with gold. And they were like,

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oh, this is from the Klondike. And so then a

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ton of people, a week later, a ton of people

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got on a steamer to go. mine for gold and it

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was the steamer mexico and it left seattle filled

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with people and supplies to deliver to the klondike

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but wrecked on green island didn't go very far

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so yeah right away we are presented with a problem

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that's how we discovered that there needed to

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be a lighthouse on here and in 1902 so just like

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five years later a steamer carrying 2500 tons

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of coal from vancouver island to a mine in alaska

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so people looking for gold, ran aground on Green

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Island, and this is when they officially decided

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that a lighthouse needed to be built. You know,

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it's like sometimes they just need a couple of

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instances, and they're like, oh, maybe it was

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a fluke. Yeah, maybe he was drunk. Somebody was

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drinking. There was no one at the wheel. And

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then? And they're like, oh, actually, that's

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kind of important. This was brought to the attention

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of the Department of Marine and Fisheries, which

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was... in charge of lighthouses and other things

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in Canada at the time, and eventually evolved

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into the Canadian Coast Guard. Oh, cool. Yeah.

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It's like similar to our lighthouse board at

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the time. They've got a lot of coast. I know.

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Can you imagine? And especially, it's one or

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the other side. There's got to be two separate

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entities, you know, for east and west of Canada.

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I don't know. Oh, yeah. So Green Island was built

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on the southwest point of the island after this.

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That's the sound bit right there. Me reaching

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for a button. That's my new text ringtone. It's

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a very blurry picture, but this was the OG lighthouse.

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It gets a remake later on. So we have a 44 foot

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tall integral tower. So it was built into the

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keeper's dwelling and it was like on the corner.

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The keeper's dwelling was a story and a half.

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And then it had a square tower and circular lantern

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room attached to one of the corners. Had a third

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order Fresnel lens, which had eight panels and

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flashed for, wait for it, 0 .787 seconds every

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5 .625 seconds. What is this, Canadian measurements?

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This is one of those instances where I think

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they just turned on the light and then just timed

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it. They weren't like, let's calibrate it to

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be exactly this distance. There's got to be a

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reason. And they were just like, let's just time

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it. Okay, it flashed for .787 seconds. Sure.

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Like, it's official. And it's still that flash

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pattern. So they, like, really stuck to their

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guns. Okay. But it has a full revolution of exactly

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45 seconds. So I think they cared more about

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the total revolution and not, like, evenly splitting

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up the flashes. Anything of 45 seconds is reasonable.

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.78 seconds is... What are we talking about?

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I can't even do the fractions on that. 78 over

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100. 787 over 1 ,000. Could you reduce that down,

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please? Oh, man. Oh, and the cost to build it

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was 800... Sorry. That would have been so cheap.

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$8 ,775 .20. In 1902? Yeah, so still pretty cheap.

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compared to the lighthouses we've talked about

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there's been by 1902 there's been some like 40

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,000 yeah so and this is this is an isolated

00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:08.480
lighthouse out on a tiny barren island um you

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know i think 11 miles from the mainland so really

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it didn't look that far on the map okay it didn't

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i know it is funny because i read a story that

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i'll talk about later oh wait No, I won't actually.

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So I'll tell it right now. Basically, one of

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the keeper's sons fell from like a small cliffside

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and hit his head. And it was like a very grievous

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wound. And so he rode his son the 18 kilometers

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or something to a hospital, which could only

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be found on the mainland. So he like that. That

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was your only choice. Like, oh, something terrible

00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.359
has happened. You can't send for a doctor. Wow.

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And then for them to come, like he was like,

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what's the fastest way for me to get to a doctor?

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So I was like, and then there's talk, which I

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will talk about later, about getting supplies

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and how they just waited and waited and waited.

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And I'm like, why wouldn't they just row to shore

00:22:05.299 --> 00:22:08.079
to go get supplies? That's a long way. Yeah,

00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:10.779
but it ends up. being a lot farther than it looks,

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especially because it's so close to an island

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on one side, but that doesn't have anybody on

00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:18.759
it. Yeah, I don't have it. Yeah. In today's day

00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:21.200
and age, it's like, oh, there's bound to be somebody

00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:24.519
on the island, but there wasn't. Crazy. Yeah.

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The first principal keeper and assistant keeper

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were brought from Victoria, which was William

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A. Forgot to look it up. Just spit it. Bosdet.

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Okay, Bosdet. You think? No, I bet. I mean, it

00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:43.079
could be Boz Day. I'm going to say Boz Day. And

00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:45.799
Stephen Baker. And after their journey to the

00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.339
lighthouse, they were each awarded $20 for, quote,

00:22:48.339 --> 00:22:50.759
damage caused to provisions required at the light

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station while in transit, end quote. So something

00:22:53.099 --> 00:22:56.279
happened on their ride over there. Their gear

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was gone. Yeah, they lost a bunch of provisions.

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I don't know. Also, like, money doesn't replace

00:23:01.740 --> 00:23:03.799
that. I was just about to say. If the distance

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is so far that you need monthly deliveries of

00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:11.980
supplies, then I think the $20 doesn't really

00:23:11.980 --> 00:23:14.400
get you anything. Yeah. If it like, let's say

00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.819
it was food they lost. Yeah. You can't buy more

00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:18.980
food. You actually need the food. The $20 is

00:23:18.980 --> 00:23:21.160
to, hey, sorry, you're going to starve a little

00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:22.759
bit. I don't need that. Yeah. Here's payment

00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:25.670
for starving. Probably the toilet paper. Baker

00:23:25.670 --> 00:23:28.730
succeeded Bosnian after one year, and we'll talk

00:23:28.730 --> 00:23:31.109
about later. There's been a lot of turnover at

00:23:31.109 --> 00:23:34.069
this lighthouse. That's fast. Yeah. The lighthouse

00:23:34.069 --> 00:23:36.190
had supplies and food delivered to it, like I

00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:40.809
mentioned, I think every month. But in 1909,

00:23:40.990 --> 00:23:45.269
the supplies were almost a month late. Can you

00:23:45.269 --> 00:23:47.190
imagine if you're given provisions for a month?

00:23:47.190 --> 00:23:50.309
I would have starved. I would have starved. It

00:23:50.309 --> 00:23:53.009
says that Baker and his family survived on cornstarch

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and bread. What do you do with cornstarch? You

00:23:58.609 --> 00:24:03.309
mix it with water? I don't know. Disturbing.

00:24:03.410 --> 00:24:06.390
There's so many people starved to death or almost

00:24:06.390 --> 00:24:10.690
starved to death in history where I'll miss breakfast

00:24:10.690 --> 00:24:13.329
and I'm like, oh my God. Devastated. I'm losing

00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:16.470
weight right now. I'm doing so good. I can feel

00:24:16.470 --> 00:24:18.410
myself getting lighter. I feel sharp right now,

00:24:18.470 --> 00:24:21.920
like a predator. Quick. And then a cheeseburger

00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.680
comes at lunchtime and I'm back to normal. Oh

00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:25.880
man, that sounds so good right now. Cheeseburger?

00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:30.319
What are we having for dinner? Steak? That's

00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:34.380
pretty good too. Oh man, cornstarch and bread.

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.200
Not good. Yeah, I can't even believe it. I'm

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:38.900
glad they survived though. Well, and on top of

00:24:38.900 --> 00:24:41.559
that, the lighthouse oil ran out. Obviously,

00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:43.720
the supplies don't just mean food. It's like

00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:48.250
the oil. So they used what was left in the lanterns

00:24:48.250 --> 00:24:49.910
around the house to make it last for another

00:24:49.910 --> 00:24:52.109
day. But then after that, the lighthouse went

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:54.509
dark because there was no fuel. And they had

00:24:54.509 --> 00:24:57.210
no light at the house. Yeah. So it was just...

00:24:57.210 --> 00:25:00.170
Keeper's house. Wow. That's terrifying. A tug

00:25:00.170 --> 00:25:03.990
and barge carrying 2 ,300 tons of coal hit Green

00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:06.549
Island the next night. So our lighthouse, once

00:25:06.549 --> 00:25:11.829
again, proves how necessary it is. But the plus

00:25:11.829 --> 00:25:16.049
of this is that this barge had wireless. And

00:25:16.049 --> 00:25:18.470
so they send a distress signal for the fact that

00:25:18.470 --> 00:25:20.930
the keepers, what? What do you mean? What do

00:25:20.930 --> 00:25:22.630
you mean they had wireless? Like they could send

00:25:22.630 --> 00:25:26.549
a radio signal. Okay. They had like a ham radio.

00:25:27.509 --> 00:25:31.410
Something. A radio, I don't know what the word,

00:25:31.509 --> 00:25:33.869
it's not mobile, so it's like a radio station.

00:25:33.950 --> 00:25:36.549
No, no, it's like a, yeah, like a communication

00:25:36.549 --> 00:25:38.549
device. I thought you meant like Wi -Fi. They

00:25:38.549 --> 00:25:42.650
had wireless, so Netflix was still on. They were

00:25:42.650 --> 00:25:45.950
still able to stream. And they watched TV. The

00:25:45.950 --> 00:25:49.369
crew, who were now grounded on Green Island,

00:25:49.529 --> 00:25:52.710
were picked up. Nobody died. Big win. That's

00:25:52.710 --> 00:25:56.930
good. Generously left the keeper coal oil for

00:25:56.930 --> 00:25:58.670
the lighthouse so they could bring the light

00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:01.049
back up. And some food from the ship stores.

00:26:01.269 --> 00:26:03.509
So that was nice. So it was like a soft crash.

00:26:04.190 --> 00:26:05.829
Yeah, it was like... They could still get to

00:26:05.829 --> 00:26:11.319
the boat. Yeah, I think... I've never heard of

00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.079
coal oil, ironically. The tug was able to be

00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:19.220
refloated, but the barge was not, which is unfortunate.

00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.859
It was because there was so much weight on it,

00:26:21.900 --> 00:26:26.200
they couldn't. So that was a lost cause. But

00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.359
the supplies that they were waiting on all this

00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.000
time arrived two days after that. I'm like, who

00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:36.990
is in charge? Of bringing food and sustenance

00:26:36.990 --> 00:26:40.630
to people trapped on an island. But it's so,

00:26:40.789 --> 00:26:44.289
I want to say military, but it's so like regulated.

00:26:44.430 --> 00:26:48.809
Like, oh, you bring a month's supply on a month's

00:26:48.809 --> 00:26:53.009
interval. And like, well, if it were you or me,

00:26:53.109 --> 00:26:55.130
it'd be like, okay, bring a month's supply every

00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:58.069
three weeks and it'll be great. Yeah. You know

00:26:58.069 --> 00:26:59.730
what I mean? Because then there's excess and

00:26:59.730 --> 00:27:02.069
then what if something happens? But that's not

00:27:02.069 --> 00:27:05.299
how the world is. It's crazy to be a month. You

00:27:05.299 --> 00:27:08.559
skipped a month. Like that's unacceptable. Here's

00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.839
my $20. I think they said that they were like

00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.440
eating seagull eggs and stuff. Okay. That actually

00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.819
doesn't sound so bad. But then the kid who lived

00:27:18.819 --> 00:27:20.720
there at the time who was eating those seagull

00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.539
eggs said he can't even like think about it without

00:27:23.539 --> 00:27:27.279
shuddering. They probably didn't cook them. Only

00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.799
eating. Oh, no way. They didn't have any oil.

00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:37.799
Well, you can still heat a pan. With? Fire? I

00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:42.180
see the problem now. I see what you're saying.

00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.460
I'm like, you don't need to cook with oil. You

00:27:45.460 --> 00:27:48.079
don't need. Just turn on. Just put it in the

00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.779
microwave. A dash of olive oil? You don't need

00:27:49.779 --> 00:27:51.779
that. Just put it in the microwave. That's hilarious.

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:55.180
Side question. My B. Kind of a thought. How many

00:27:55.180 --> 00:27:59.380
times is it worse to have a lighthouse that's

00:27:59.380 --> 00:28:02.359
not lit or no lighthouse at all? I think it's

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:03.920
worse to have a lighthouse that's not lit because

00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:09.660
that shipping route, the tugboat, crashed probably

00:28:09.660 --> 00:28:12.740
because, oh, I don't see the lighthouse, so we're

00:28:12.740 --> 00:28:15.319
safely out of range of the reef or the island

00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.619
or whatever it might be. Or is it his first trip?

00:28:19.859 --> 00:28:22.559
They're just 100 % reliant on the lighthouse.

00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.980
We didn't have the GPS. And they didn't have

00:28:25.980 --> 00:28:29.079
radios on boats. Yes, like the sensors and stuff.

00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.839
Lighthouses were... your mode of knowing when

00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.460
something was yeah coming and it was dark and

00:28:37.460 --> 00:28:39.799
apparently this passageway is extremely windy

00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:43.880
and this yeah this area is suckish for navigating

00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:48.099
so you can see how it happened good photo though

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:50.480
yeah i know i pulled up another photo it's a

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:54.460
lot clearer than the first one um got some men

00:28:54.460 --> 00:28:56.099
standing in it that's how you can tell it's a

00:28:56.099 --> 00:28:59.059
good official photo so you can scale the building

00:28:59.059 --> 00:29:03.720
yes i like their lightning rod it's it's prominent

00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.119
it's got a wind vane on it yeah yeah cute pretty

00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.059
cool relevant to what i'll talk about later oh

00:29:10.059 --> 00:29:13.779
no i mean it's fine no no this one's not one

00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:17.920
of those struck by no no the weather vane specifically

00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.839
anyway while this lighthouse is two miles from

00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.630
dundas island which i was talking about is not

00:29:25.630 --> 00:29:28.289
populated it's over 11 miles to the mainland

00:29:28.289 --> 00:29:30.430
and this made it difficult to get medical care

00:29:30.430 --> 00:29:34.190
and obviously food and occasionally sailors would

00:29:34.190 --> 00:29:36.369
stop on the island for lunch with the keepers

00:29:36.369 --> 00:29:38.509
while fishing because this area is just like

00:29:38.509 --> 00:29:41.990
a dangerous it's dangerous it's hard to navigate

00:29:41.990 --> 00:29:46.509
it's unpredictable and it's exhausting so often

00:29:46.509 --> 00:29:49.599
people stop on the island where they know that

00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.460
there's a nice guy that is lonely and probably

00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:54.900
wants to hang out. They might cook their fish

00:29:54.900 --> 00:30:00.960
for them. Yeah, exactly. The area is also a migratory

00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.460
path for whales. And the lighthouse is at the

00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:07.039
tip of Hecate Strait, which is considered the

00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.619
fourth most dangerous body of water in the world.

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.740
Really? Yes. I was like, how? Who decides this?

00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:16.880
But I saw it in multiple sources. So I was like,

00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:20.319
okay. Dangerous in terms of wrecks? Yeah. Like

00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.420
the conditions are really hard. Sure. Okay. It

00:30:23.420 --> 00:30:28.059
is a huge place for salmon and halibut fisheries.

00:30:28.059 --> 00:30:32.339
And it's 200 meters at its deepest. So it's like

00:30:32.339 --> 00:30:34.799
extremely shallow. And so when they have like

00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.799
really, really high winds and storms and stuff,

00:30:37.819 --> 00:30:40.430
the waves. during the storms would expose the

00:30:40.430 --> 00:30:43.069
ocean floor wow so you can imagine if you're

00:30:43.069 --> 00:30:45.710
like a small dinghy and you're caught in a storm

00:30:45.710 --> 00:30:48.430
you just get crushed on the ocean floor and then

00:30:48.430 --> 00:30:54.210
drowned it's that'd be a terrifying can you imagine

00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:57.569
seeing the ocean floor no so that's what this

00:30:57.569 --> 00:30:59.829
area and you would die that's why we had a high

00:30:59.829 --> 00:31:02.650
turnover of keepers and apparently the wind is

00:31:02.650 --> 00:31:08.099
constant like sustained 90 mile per hour winds.

00:31:08.180 --> 00:31:11.019
It's a great spot for a windmill. That is to

00:31:11.019 --> 00:31:14.019
say that the keeper had lots of run -ins with

00:31:14.019 --> 00:31:16.640
small fishing boats and people who were out of

00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:26.339
their depth. It's so fun to be back. It's fun.

00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:31.460
1957, a new... octagonal concrete tower with

00:31:31.460 --> 00:31:34.000
two dwellings was built. So it was flanked by

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.319
two separate dwellings. One for assistants, one

00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.599
for head keeper. I think most of the time we

00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.140
had a head keeper and an assistant. Yeah, one

00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:47.200
and one. It was 35 feet tall and white with a

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.380
red lantern room and all the dwellings were white

00:31:49.380 --> 00:31:52.359
with red roofs. So it's very pretty. Pull up

00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.720
a picture. Oh, that's gorgeous. Shockingly beautiful.

00:31:55.099 --> 00:31:58.559
Wow. And also gives you good insight to the size

00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.759
of the island. Not very big. Yeah, nice little

00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.519
par three. They do have a spattering of grass

00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.759
on the rock, which is good. It's pretty, I mean,

00:32:08.779 --> 00:32:12.700
it's very rocky. Beautiful site, but hard to

00:32:12.700 --> 00:32:14.740
live there. Yeah, not somewhere you can be growing.

00:32:14.859 --> 00:32:17.099
You know how a lot of keepers have gardens and

00:32:17.099 --> 00:32:20.519
livestock and stuff. This is kind of not somewhere

00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.960
you can do that. Dang. Really pretty though.

00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:26.160
Yeah. Over time, buildings had been added to

00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.900
the station. You can see there's a lot of buildings.

00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:31.660
These are like more current photos. But now we

00:32:31.660 --> 00:32:36.420
have, quote, the 1945 storage shed slash workshop.

00:32:36.619 --> 00:32:42.140
The 1945 tractor shed. The 1945 storage garage.

00:32:42.220 --> 00:32:45.180
So obviously 1945 was a big time to be building

00:32:45.180 --> 00:32:50.700
new buildings. The 1963 bedroom senior keeper's

00:32:50.700 --> 00:32:54.339
dwelling. The 1962 bedroom dwelling. and the

00:32:54.339 --> 00:32:58.980
winch house and the 2000 engine room winch winch

00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:03.559
house okay they said witch oh no and i'm sorry

00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:08.099
the 2000 the witch house and it's like casually

00:33:08.099 --> 00:33:10.980
we have someone living in our midst 200 something

00:33:10.980 --> 00:33:14.099
what was the last thing 2000 engine room 2000

00:33:14.099 --> 00:33:21.049
what 2000 the year 2000 the year 2000 It is kind

00:33:21.049 --> 00:33:22.369
of funny when you say it like that. I thought

00:33:22.369 --> 00:33:24.589
you meant like 2 ,000 gallon oil storage or something.

00:33:24.950 --> 00:33:29.269
We're off. Give me units. It's just 2 ,000. Just

00:33:29.269 --> 00:33:32.289
the year. I did. I had a truck that was a 2 ,000,

00:33:32.369 --> 00:33:35.910
my second truck. And every time I would say,

00:33:35.990 --> 00:33:38.529
yeah, it's a 2 ,000 Dodge Ram. People would be

00:33:38.529 --> 00:33:43.170
like, a 2 ,500? A 1 ,500? Is it a one ton? A

00:33:43.170 --> 00:33:47.029
year 2 ,000. No, it's a year 2 ,000 Ram 2 ,500.

00:33:49.289 --> 00:33:52.809
That is funny in terms of like cars or anything

00:33:52.809 --> 00:33:56.049
like machinery. 2000 could be anything. It's

00:33:56.049 --> 00:34:02.410
so confusing, yeah. Joey's back in case you can't

00:34:02.410 --> 00:34:05.029
hear him. He's like, you forgot your mascot.

00:34:05.450 --> 00:34:09.369
Aren't I a part of this? That's right. We should

00:34:09.369 --> 00:34:12.070
record his meow and put it on our soundboard.

00:34:13.070 --> 00:34:15.230
Yeah, we don't have to. He's here every episode.

00:34:15.510 --> 00:34:18.130
I can't get him close enough to the mic. At this

00:34:18.130 --> 00:34:19.750
point, when they built the new lighthouse, the

00:34:19.750 --> 00:34:22.110
flash pattern was kept the same, but was now

00:34:22.110 --> 00:34:24.590
run by solar power. So it's pretty cool. This

00:34:24.590 --> 00:34:26.869
lighthouse had a high turnover rate for keepers,

00:34:26.869 --> 00:34:29.309
as I mentioned several times, due to its barren

00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:31.769
island and distance from shore. Though a few

00:34:31.769 --> 00:34:34.650
keepers stayed for many years and loved the whole

00:34:34.650 --> 00:34:38.289
remote location and living in this fashion. One

00:34:38.289 --> 00:34:40.949
of those being Keeper Morin, served from 1919

00:34:40.949 --> 00:34:44.469
to 1936. So that's a pretty good chunk of time.

00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:47.500
That's like 17 years, right? I'm going to try

00:34:47.500 --> 00:34:51.340
to pronounce Serge Pair. I want to say his name

00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:57.760
is. From 1996 to 2016. So that's 20 years. And

00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.300
the current staff, Barney Hayes, who served from

00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:04.480
2016 to at least 2024. He may still be there

00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.980
today. Wow, he's rocking it. Yeah, I just can't

00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:10.460
find an absolute confirmation that he's still

00:35:10.460 --> 00:35:13.880
there. But at the very least, he was in 2024.

00:35:14.300 --> 00:35:17.190
It's still manned then. Yes, it is a staffed

00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:19.829
lighthouse. Huh. I don't know if they're technically

00:35:19.829 --> 00:35:23.170
called keepers, but they call themselves keepers.

00:35:23.170 --> 00:35:25.230
So maybe it's different from the U .S. where

00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:27.929
it's like, oh, you're now a civilian. Yeah, I

00:35:27.929 --> 00:35:30.489
mean, what is it? Sally Snowman was 2024 she

00:35:30.489 --> 00:35:33.909
retired? Or was it? Was it then? I think you're

00:35:33.909 --> 00:35:36.429
probably right. 2020s, we'll say. Boston Light.

00:35:36.969 --> 00:35:39.369
Yeah, for some reason it seems more common in

00:35:39.369 --> 00:35:41.750
other countries that lighthouses still have people

00:35:41.750 --> 00:35:46.050
serving at them. Yeah. So surge pair talked a

00:35:46.050 --> 00:35:48.289
bit about being a keeper there. They have to

00:35:48.289 --> 00:35:50.929
do weather reports every three hours, starting

00:35:50.929 --> 00:35:55.190
at 3 a .m. to 10 p .m. in two different shifts.

00:35:55.230 --> 00:35:58.710
So he and the assistant would like split it down

00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:01.989
the middle. They work seven days a week until

00:36:01.989 --> 00:36:04.550
they have some paid holidays. And then a relief

00:36:04.550 --> 00:36:07.030
keeper would come take their place for that time

00:36:07.030 --> 00:36:10.210
period. And he said these were either from another

00:36:10.210 --> 00:36:13.219
lighthouse, these relief keepers. Or someone

00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:15.920
who applied and didn't get a job as keeper because

00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:18.239
there was nothing available at the time. But

00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.659
then they were put into the reserves if they

00:36:20.659 --> 00:36:22.400
needed a relief keeper. Which is kind of cool.

00:36:22.539 --> 00:36:24.260
It is cool. God, they weren't just like, no,

00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:26.159
we don't need you. No, I'll full up, thanks.

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:29.159
Yeah. He said lots of assistant keepers took

00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:33.280
the job thinking that the remoteness of the location

00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.039
meant that they wouldn't have to do anything.

00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.559
He's like, well, you're going to be in for a

00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.360
surprise because it's... It's grueling, hard,

00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:48.719
constant work. Rungo. Yeah. In 2015, Green Island

00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.280
Lighthouse and 20 other lighthouses were given

00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.019
heritage status in Canada. And this is like the

00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:57.019
National Register of Historic Places in the U

00:36:57.019 --> 00:36:59.860
.S. Awesome. They're equivalent. They noted in

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:03.260
their heritage value notes when they were made,

00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.760
like, what is that word I'm trying to think of?

00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:13.360
Made their... inauguration it's like their collection

00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.480
of data about the place like yeah here's the

00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.500
heritage status here's why we did it here's what's

00:37:19.500 --> 00:37:21.699
valuable yeah here's the history stuff like that

00:37:21.699 --> 00:37:25.320
but when they made that they noted that uh quote

00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.420
the green island lighthouse is highly valued

00:37:28.420 --> 00:37:31.380
by the pacific maritime community due to its

00:37:31.380 --> 00:37:33.750
isolated location The Green Island Lighthouse

00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:36.050
is not associated with a single town or community,

00:37:36.230 --> 00:37:38.650
but is a familiar landmark to a great variety

00:37:38.650 --> 00:37:41.590
of international marine traffic. The Green Island

00:37:41.590 --> 00:37:43.730
Lighthouse continues to play a role in reinforcing

00:37:43.730 --> 00:37:46.269
Canadian sovereignty by establishing a human

00:37:46.269 --> 00:37:49.309
presence on the remote coastline. Just five kilometers

00:37:49.309 --> 00:37:51.769
from the Alaskan border, it is the first notable

00:37:51.769 --> 00:37:54.650
landmark that is seen as marine traffic enters

00:37:54.650 --> 00:37:57.309
Canada. That's cool. Its red and white colors

00:37:57.309 --> 00:37:59.610
provide a distinctive and unmistakable welcome

00:37:59.610 --> 00:38:02.030
that such vessels are now within Canadian waters.

00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.139
That's really cool. Yeah. And that's our Green

00:38:05.139 --> 00:38:07.739
Island Lighthouse for British Columbia. Very

00:38:07.739 --> 00:38:11.539
cool. Very beautiful, clean, well taken care

00:38:11.539 --> 00:38:14.719
of. Oh, I've got another picture of Surge Pair

00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.199
in front of the sign to Green Island Light Station.

00:38:18.380 --> 00:38:21.179
Looks cold. Yeah, it does look cold. I mean,

00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.480
the wind has just got to be unbearable. They

00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:24.820
have a little lighthouse in front of the lighthouse.

00:38:25.019 --> 00:38:26.539
I know. And it looks like it has like shelves

00:38:26.539 --> 00:38:30.969
in it. It's a book. They actually have a lot

00:38:30.969 --> 00:38:33.250
of visitors. It's just hard to get there. Did

00:38:33.250 --> 00:38:36.190
you look into it all? How do visitors typically

00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:37.969
come out? Are they on their own to come out there?

00:38:37.969 --> 00:38:40.269
I think they're on their own, but it's not advised

00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:43.110
because of the difficulty of travel in there.

00:38:43.690 --> 00:38:48.050
I imagine it'd be hard to... If we are tourists,

00:38:48.150 --> 00:38:50.510
right? Hey, take us out there. Someone would

00:38:50.510 --> 00:38:55.889
be like, we actually don't go out there. 11 miles?

00:38:56.829 --> 00:38:59.849
Yeah. But it'd be really cool. I think it's fun,

00:38:59.889 --> 00:39:02.030
the red and white. I never, I did not think about

00:39:02.030 --> 00:39:05.050
the border being there. It always looks spectacular.

00:39:05.570 --> 00:39:07.829
Canadian. Especially if it's clean, like just

00:39:07.829 --> 00:39:14.849
freshly painted is really nice. Yeah. So that's

00:39:14.849 --> 00:39:18.349
our third of some indeterminate number of Green

00:39:18.349 --> 00:39:20.449
Island lighthouses. I'm still finding more, I

00:39:20.449 --> 00:39:22.269
swear. How many are there? How many are there?

00:39:22.730 --> 00:39:25.539
I get to like. I was like, okay, there's only

00:39:25.539 --> 00:39:27.239
one more. And then I'm like, oh, okay, there's

00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:28.820
one more after this. And now I'm thinking there's

00:39:28.820 --> 00:39:31.039
two more after this. There's got to be more than

00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.699
two. Green Island? There's a lot of Green Islands.

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.059
I guess. Any island that had green on it, they're

00:39:36.059 --> 00:39:37.880
like, you know what? You know what we could call

00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.019
this? Green Island. I think there's another one

00:39:41.019 --> 00:39:44.679
in Canada on the other side. East side. We'll

00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.360
see. East side versus west side, Canada. We'll

00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.980
see. I'll educate you guys on all the Green Islands.

00:39:51.139 --> 00:39:53.460
It's kind of fun. Hopefully nobody's getting

00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:55.710
bored. Of hearing the same name over and over.

00:39:56.610 --> 00:40:00.309
It's so confusing. It's very different. Every

00:40:00.309 --> 00:40:02.150
lighthouse. It's not like I'm covering the same

00:40:02.150 --> 00:40:04.530
type of lighthouse over and over. There's always

00:40:04.530 --> 00:40:08.829
a story. Not very special. That's it. Cool. Well,

00:40:08.829 --> 00:40:11.349
thanks for covering that. Yeah. Getting us back

00:40:11.349 --> 00:40:14.849
on the road. Back into the water. Yeah. And technically,

00:40:14.929 --> 00:40:18.130
you're next. I'm next. That sounds daunting.

00:40:18.610 --> 00:40:21.280
Technically. This was supposed to be your episode.

00:40:21.380 --> 00:40:24.500
Well, I have plenty of ideas, and I actually

00:40:24.500 --> 00:40:27.579
today learned about a new place that I'm going

00:40:27.579 --> 00:40:32.539
to talk about. Okay. So sassy. It's not a new

00:40:32.539 --> 00:40:35.300
place, but it's newly known about. Good to you.

00:40:35.860 --> 00:40:40.139
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Good job. Thanks. Love you. That's

00:40:40.139 --> 00:40:43.480
my wife. My husband. Yeah, we've never been married

00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:47.679
on the air. that's so cute it's very cute thank

00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:49.679
you to all of our listeners for sticking around

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.420
and hopefully you're happy that we're back and

00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:56.059
that you'll come back for our next episode in

00:40:56.059 --> 00:40:58.739
a month we're happy that you're listening yeah

00:40:58.739 --> 00:41:03.460
keep your eyes peeled and we hope to catch you

00:41:03.460 --> 00:41:08.739
next time on the lighthouse a little slow on

00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:09.000
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