Episode 78 - Cape Fear Lighthouse

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Hi, everyone. I'm Emily. And I'm Vince. And this

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is The Lighthouse Lowdown. Hi. We just stared

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at each other. Oh, I had a long day. Model review,

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you know. Yeah. Our listeners should know that

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every time that intro is playing. it's live for

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us. So it's not, you know, we're just staring

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at each other dancing or something. Yeah. It's

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usually fun. Sometimes I feel the pressure impending

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that I have to say something when it's over.

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So I'm like, Oh no. Oh, Oh, I got to think of

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something. But anyway, I got a good episode coming

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at you today and I had a lot of good ideas that

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I could use for the history buoy that would correspond

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with this episode. Nice. And I went with a light

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ship. So that's what we're going to do for our

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history buoy. A specific light ship? Yes. Great.

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And this is a name that's shown up a few times

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while I've been researching or traveling or whatever.

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And I'm like, that's funny. And it's the frying

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pan shoals. So I'm going to talk about that today.

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Which corresponds with our light ship, of course.

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Nice. Yeah. The history buoy is the frying pan

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light ship, specifically LV -115. Because you

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know how any light ship that was assigned, people

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should go listen to our light ship episode. I

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can't remember what it was, like 50 -something?

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Light ships. Yeah. And you can get educated on

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the numbering system. But any light ship that

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was stationed somewhere got the name frying pan.

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So there were several frying pan light ships.

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But the one I'm talking about is the longest

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serving one. So first of all, what are the frying

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pan shoals? We're in North Carolina, outside

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of Cape Fear. Oh, cool. So I put a little picture

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up of, you can see the stars of the lighthouses

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that we covered in our Outer Banks episode. The

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Outer Banks. So south of that, almost to whatever

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state is below North Carolina. South Carolina?

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Wait, I didn't get a chance. Whatever state is

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south of North Carolina. I didn't get a chance

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to use my brain before I said that. I was in

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auto mode. But yes, so closer to South Carolina,

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we have Cape Fear. And even when you pull up

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Google Maps, you can see this dark spot in the

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ocean. And that is our frying pan shoals. And

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they said that it was called that because it

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looks like a frying pan. And I disagree. Is there

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a different view where maybe it looks like a

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frying pan? No. Maybe like a frying pan held

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sideways. Yeah. But that's... Well, even like

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the panhandle of Oklahoma. Yeah. Oh. Panhandle

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of Texas. Frying panhandle. I don't know. I kind

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of get that. It kind of looks like a lodge cast

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iron. Okay. Sponsored by. Like North Carolina

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is a big weird shaped pan and that's the handle.

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Who knows? That's what I'm thinking. Okay, so

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that's what's coming up in my brain. Anyway,

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it's about 18 miles long and it's like a shifting

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shoal. So like the sands move, which is what

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makes it so dangerous is that you can't really

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like predict where the edges are going to be.

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Okay. And it's southeast of Cape Fear, North

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Carolina. And it's made of silt and sand deposited

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from the Cape Fear River. So that's what we have

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up. This area was, quote, dreaded by shipmasters

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only a little less than those at Cape Hatteras.

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And we know that Cape Hatteras, outside of Cape

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Hatteras, was considered the graveyard of the

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Atlantic. So this was obviously a high contender

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for places you've got to worry about when you're

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sailing around North Carolina. Or, you know,

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on the east coast of the U .S. So two lighthouses

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were built in the area in 1794 and 1817, but

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both were not good enough to mark the outer edges

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of the shoal because you'd have to have a pretty

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powerful light to make it 18 miles. Yeah, it's

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a big panhandle. Yeah, so if you go anything

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less than all out, it's not going to work. So

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that's kind of what happened. These lighthouses

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that were made to mark were the first of baldhead

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lighthouses, which I briefly mentioned, but we'll

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have to do an episode on them some other time.

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Because of that, because these lighthouses weren't

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good enough, they added on top of that a light

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ship to be placed in 1854. Did I say ordered?

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Ordered a light ship? I don't know. Placed an

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order for a light ship. Overstock .com. Just

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like ordering a new car. I mean, you do have

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to order it from a shipbuilder. Yeah. Oh, and

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I actually have a picture. I'll show you of it

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in production. Oh, cool. Eight light ships served

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this location from 1854 to 1930. And 1930 is

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when LV -115 took over at the Shoal. And that's

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the one that I'm covering today. So there was

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this long chunk of history in which there were

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light ships, but none of them had quite an extensive

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history as... our LV -115. So that's what I'm

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going to refer to from here on out as the frying

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pan lighthouse. Cool. Lightship. Hold. So here

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I pulled up a picture of when it was being built.

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So they build the hole first and then they put

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it in the water and then they finish building

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the rest of the lightship, which is interesting.

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It's a cool photo. Yeah, so there's a couple

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cool ones of it being built and mainly this is

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just to show like it's... Double -masted, had

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lights on top of each one. Oops. We love that.

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So it was built in 1929, as we can see from our

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screen. And it had the classic bright red hole

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with the large white letters that says frying

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pan. That's awesome. Yeah, so we saw a lot of

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those, and it's kind of the staple for light

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chips, especially in the U .S. It had a crew

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of 15 people, but only 10 would serve at a time.

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So they'd serve for 28 days and then get 14 days

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off is usually how it went. Nice. The light ship

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was active from 1930 until World War II when

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it served as an examination vessel, which I don't

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know what that is. I forgot to look it up. Examination

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vessel in World War II? Yeah. I would guess like

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approaching ships. Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

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But that was from 1942 to 1945. And after this,

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it was placed back on the shoals until 1964.

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So it's a solid 30 years of it being out on the

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water, which if you listen to our light ships

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episode, you'll hear that it was actually very

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hard on a ship to be out in open water like that.

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And especially anchored. There was a lot of stories

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about this ship in like hurricanes and whatnot.

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It's difficult for a ship to be more down during

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a storm because it wears it. Like, it's not a...

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So much stress on the anchor chain. Yes. And

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the ship being jerked around. It's all attached.

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Yeah. So, that's a long time to be out on the

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shoals. And, of course, it would come in every,

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like, two years for maintenance or something.

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So, they were keeping it together. 1964. Picture

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there. A light tower resembling an oil drilling

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platform was built, which is also called the

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Texas Tower. So this is a specific type of lighthouse

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that was built. I think that it said that there

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was like 10 or something. I think, I think, I

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think. I think. I think that we have seen one

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of these before. I can't remember the term Texas

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Tower, but I swear maybe an explosion or a research

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station, some story associated with a tower that

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looked just like this. Yeah, we've had a few

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out on the water, but I don't know if we've had

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a Texas tower before. Or maybe we've just come

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across them but not done an episode on it. Yeah.

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But yeah, it's a cool picture. The light ship

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circled it and blasted its whistle three times

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before departing for good. A little goodbye.

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Shame. So that's a cool picture of this light

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tower officially relieving. Frying pan light

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ship of its duties. 1965, the light ship was

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decommissioned and donated to a museum in Southport,

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North Carolina. This is where it all goes downhill.

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Budget issues killed this museum and the ship

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sank before anyone could figure out what to do

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with it. Wait, what? Yes. Like where they had

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the museum because people were like, what are

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we going to do with it? At a port? Or like wherever

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the... Like, it was a maritime museum, so wherever

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it was floating just went down. Oh, man. I know.

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At some point, and it wasn't clear when, the

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light ship was refloated and drained before sinking

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again in Whitehaven, Maryland in 1983. So that's

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the double sinker. All this time, it survives.

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Tale of the frying pan. Never gets sunk during

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service. And then afterwards, in its retirement,

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it gets sunk twice. After three years of staying

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underwater, it was righted, which, doing so,

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tore off one of its masts. Oh, man. Old age is

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a bitch. Terrible. And it was sold to a John

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Crevy, I think it's pronounced, for $8 ,000,

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who spent weekends with his friends shoveling

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crap out of the ship, like muck and barnacles

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and whatnot. And once it was all cleaned up,

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they sailed it to New York, where it served as

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a restaurant, bar, dance club. That's awesome.

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The frying pan. Yeah, and they said they left

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a bunch of the barnacles and some stuff on the

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inside. Cool. and filled it with all kinds of

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eclectic things. So it was like this whole experience.

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I'd be so excited to go to a bar that was a sunken

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ship. It'd be kind of difficult to get drunk

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on a ship. No, it wouldn't. Well, I'm thinking

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of Vertigo. History suggests that is not true.

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Oh, true. Yeah, I guess true. It was floating,

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though, as a bar? I think so, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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for sure. Then after that, it was forced to move

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to another pier in New York City. So it was in

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a pier. I'm not gonna be able to remember what

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number pier it was, but then it got moved to

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66A, Pier 66A, because they were doing construction

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on Hudson Park or something. I didn't make notes.

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I don't know. But anyway, so they had to move

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it, but it reopened in 2008 and remains today

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as the Pier 66 Maritime Bar and Grill. And you

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can sit on the deck and have cocktails and fancy

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seafood. Like I attached the website for this

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place and it looks so good. No chance you're

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going to show it to me. No. Okay. Pier 66. Maritime

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Bar and Grill. Okay. Noting. Well, the website

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is just called. fryingpan .com. What? Yes. Hold

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on. I would pull it up, but it's too difficult

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with how we project our screen now. Yeah, fryingpan

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.com. Cool logo, I must say. Mm -hmm. I'll probably

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just put that on our cover. Okay. Without asking

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anybody. Oh. Look at that. Yeah, it's pretty.

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Little red outline. It only has the one mast.

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The one mast. Which is accurate. Mm -hmm. Wow.

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Lore accurate. I wonder if this is valued by

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the patrons. Yeah, like if you're interested.

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Because I noticed there's no tab on that website

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for the history of the light ship. So I'm wondering

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if it's just very food forward. Like it's more

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of a, like, oh, it's on a ship. How cool is that?

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Without it being, tell me all about it. There's

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an art history. Oh, there is. Okay, good. Yeah,

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shows the frying pan image. Oh, yeah. That was

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a long description. Okay, good. I don't want

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to go too crazy on here, but that's awesome.

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I'd love to go. Yeah, see, it's on our list now.

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Yeah, but we can't. What, what? New York in the

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wintertime. I bet we can't sit on the deck. It's

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got teak furniture. Why do you say wintertime?

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Well, because we're talking about going to New

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York in the wintertime, potentially. I sent you

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a video of Canada in the wintertime. In Banff.

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I don't know what that is. It's not near New

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York. It's West. I'm not talking about New York.

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What is going on? You're talking about New York

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for Christmas. No. Yes. When? We're talking about

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an option for after our wedding. Oh. Wow. That

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must have been vetoed in my head or something

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because I have no memory of that. We talked about

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Branson, Missouri. And so I was like, oh, well,

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something. big like new york is probably out

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of the question anyway um i pulled up a picture

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of uh the frying pan light ship this was in 2006

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so it was before it opened in the other pier

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and as a part of the restaurant that's available

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now so but just for you to see the the lettering

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the bright color the single mast it's pretty

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cool that's crazy i can't believe they broke

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the mast riding the ship and then What does it

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take to weld that thing back on? Well, it was

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owned by a guy, you know, at that point. So,

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yeah, he's probably not like, oh, I better make

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this historically accurate. He's probably just

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like, it was a sunken ship. I might as well just

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get it as close as I can. And then there was

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one. Yeah. Pretty cool, though. It's probably

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in someone's house. The other mast? Yeah, it's

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probably a staircase. The center of a spiral

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staircase. yeah so that's um we come across this

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uh light ship again in this episode so it was

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either that i covered the shoals in depth or

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the light ship or i forgot this was the buoy

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i'm having a great time oh good yeah it's a double

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whammy because now we are heading into our lighthouse

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for the day and so don't forget we're in north

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carolina cape fear And the first lighthouse ever

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built in North Carolina was to mark this frying

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pan shoals because we heard about how dangerous

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it is. Of course. Pulled up another photo just

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of all the marked shipwrecks we have. There's

00:14:38.659 --> 00:14:42.799
a lot of them. Along here. It's very clear where

00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.539
the shoal lies. Yeah, it's a nice map. If you

00:14:45.539 --> 00:14:47.460
ever want a map of a shoal, just let all the

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ships wreck and then show where those are. Yeah,

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and then it just outlines it perfectly. Yeah,

00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.490
so they show where the light ship. was on here

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and also where the tower is now so oh cool yeah

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that's it's a very cool map lots lots of good

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stuff in there but as i was saying baldhead lighthouse

00:15:04.450 --> 00:15:06.769
did a poor job and so then the light ship was

00:15:06.769 --> 00:15:10.350
anchored on the far edge to market in 1854 and

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the annual report of the lighthouse board of

00:15:12.690 --> 00:15:16.549
1889 said in part that while the light ship was

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indispensable and they weren't planning on getting

00:15:18.289 --> 00:15:21.389
rid of it it also was frequently torn from its

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mooring during storms and had a small range for

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lighting the shoals because obviously it's just

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the end and so it's just like they didn't have

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any way to reliably have this one object that

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marked the shoals it was like a combination like

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i read a little bit on baldhead and it For a

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while it was by itself, and then they got a new

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one, and then they made it a range light, and

00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.259
also there's a light ship in there, so it just

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kind of got too convoluted. And so they requested

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a lighthouse on the tip of Cape Fear, and you

00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:55.919
can see from this map as well that really this

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is all a bunch of little islands. I can't remember.

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I think it's called Smith Islands or something.

00:16:01.549 --> 00:16:04.070
Okay. So towards the end there, that's not like

00:16:04.070 --> 00:16:07.669
the end of land. It's like just a bunch of little

00:16:07.669 --> 00:16:10.490
broken up islands, which can be said for a lot

00:16:10.490 --> 00:16:13.250
of the Outer Banks too. Yeah. Oh, Vince is looking

00:16:13.250 --> 00:16:15.450
something up. I'm sorry. No. I don't mean to

00:16:15.450 --> 00:16:21.690
go off track. There's a gulf island. What's it

00:16:21.690 --> 00:16:25.929
called? Frick? What the frick? Something like

00:16:25.929 --> 00:16:27.990
that. Every time I go to the maps when we're

00:16:27.990 --> 00:16:34.110
on here, it just doesn't work. Forget about it.

00:16:34.210 --> 00:16:36.490
Okay. It might be out there. Golf is on your

00:16:36.490 --> 00:16:38.190
mind. Yeah, there's always a golf course nearby.

00:16:39.509 --> 00:16:42.970
They wanted a lighthouse out here with a range

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that would fully encompass the shoals instead

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of it being like, I'm pretty sure Bald Head started

00:16:47.289 --> 00:16:49.649
as a third order light and then switched to a

00:16:49.649 --> 00:16:52.299
fourth order light. Neither of those are going

00:16:52.299 --> 00:16:55.519
to reach 18 miles out. And even more, because

00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.419
you have to be warned in advance. Yeah, hopefully.

00:16:57.740 --> 00:17:03.039
Yeah. Like, I see the light now that we're stationary.

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And in this report, it's also noted that there's

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no first order lights between Cape Lookout and

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Cape Romaine, which is about 170 nautical miles

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apart. Pretty significant. They suggested a 150

00:17:16.579 --> 00:17:20.079
-foot masonry tower and requested $150 ,000.

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And the board repeated this request from 1890

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to 1897. But Congress didn't bite until they

00:17:29.150 --> 00:17:32.630
more than halved the request to $70 ,000 instead

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of $150 ,000. And then they approved it. They

00:17:36.089 --> 00:17:38.769
sent half, $35 ,000, to begin the project in

00:17:38.769 --> 00:17:42.589
1898. And then the other half was in 1901. And

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so while they could still make this lighthouse

00:17:44.509 --> 00:17:48.509
150 feet tall because of the cut in budget, it

00:17:48.509 --> 00:17:50.109
meant that they had to go with a different look.

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So in 1903, Cape Fear Lighthouse was completed

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as an octagonal iron skeletal lighthouse equipped

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with a first order Fresnel lens. Pulled up a

00:18:01.660 --> 00:18:06.019
really nice picture. Bungalows. This Fresnel

00:18:06.019 --> 00:18:08.140
lens was the one that we talked about in our

00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:10.700
Mercury floats episode as like the heaviest,

00:18:10.700 --> 00:18:13.240
biggest Mercury float system they've ever made.

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And it was like 6 ,000 pounds altogether. So

00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:20.440
the lens was over six feet in diameter. and had

00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:23.440
24 flash panels and produced a white flash every

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10 seconds. So that's a lot. Think about 24 panels.

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It's like a lot more than your average. Very

00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:33.200
complex piece. Brunel, yeah. The tower was painted

00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:35.079
white. So this picture that I have pulled up,

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there's a little bit of black up top. That happened

00:18:36.940 --> 00:18:40.380
later. Originally, it was all white, which you

00:18:40.380 --> 00:18:43.279
can imagine is difficult to see against blue

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sky. So that's why they added that in there.

00:18:46.990 --> 00:18:48.769
They had three keepers' houses that were built

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in a row, and they were all white as well. I

00:18:51.029 --> 00:18:53.069
think I read that they had green shutters or

00:18:53.069 --> 00:18:56.450
something. Cool. I like it when they're all neat

00:18:56.450 --> 00:18:58.349
like that. Yeah, it's a really nice construction.

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Lined up cute. Little porches. I wonder what

00:19:02.049 --> 00:19:03.750
those two other buildings are. Do you know if

00:19:03.750 --> 00:19:07.230
those are additions or other offices? I didn't

00:19:07.230 --> 00:19:13.170
make a note. Outhouses? They're probably outhouses.

00:19:13.309 --> 00:19:17.460
They look pretty big. Yeah, they look... I can't

00:19:17.460 --> 00:19:18.980
make any guesses. I don't know. The fact that

00:19:18.980 --> 00:19:21.680
there's two identical ones makes it complicated.

00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.599
Maybe they're work sheds. I've read some places

00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:28.980
have work sheds. I would say oil houses, but

00:19:28.980 --> 00:19:32.059
you'd only need one. Yeah. I don't know. Don't

00:19:32.059 --> 00:19:36.140
know. Questions out there. So once this lighthouse

00:19:36.140 --> 00:19:39.579
was established, the bald head lighthouse was

00:19:39.579 --> 00:19:41.660
changed to a fixed fourth order light because

00:19:41.660 --> 00:19:44.220
they were both flashing. So make it less complicated

00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:46.789
by changing the other one. There were only three

00:19:46.789 --> 00:19:49.569
head keepers in this lighthouse's history. Wow.

00:19:49.730 --> 00:19:51.950
I know. Well, also because it didn't last like

00:19:51.950 --> 00:19:56.789
super long. It's just, yeah, pretty quick. But

00:19:56.789 --> 00:19:59.710
the first was Captain Charles Swan. Awesome name.

00:20:00.069 --> 00:20:02.829
The son of the captain of the frying pan light

00:20:02.829 --> 00:20:06.349
ship. So it runs in the family. Incredible. And

00:20:06.349 --> 00:20:08.789
he served from 1903, which was the beginning

00:20:08.789 --> 00:20:12.750
of the lighthouse, to 1933. So 30 -year service

00:20:12.750 --> 00:20:15.099
at this lighthouse. Long time. Especially for

00:20:15.099 --> 00:20:21.440
a son. What? I just, I don't know. Like someone

00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:24.400
who's like, I'll do what my dad did. And five

00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:27.200
years later. But on land, yeah. But this guy

00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.940
did a full career. Yeah. And these are some things

00:20:30.940 --> 00:20:34.140
that happened during his service. The lantern

00:20:34.140 --> 00:20:37.259
room was painted black in 1906. So it was a pretty

00:20:37.259 --> 00:20:40.779
quick turnaround from, you know how slow things

00:20:40.779 --> 00:20:43.569
move in the lighthouse world. Yes. And so only

00:20:43.569 --> 00:20:46.710
three years after beginning service to change

00:20:46.710 --> 00:20:48.529
the day mark of a lighthouse is pretty quick.

00:20:49.910 --> 00:20:53.349
1915, the board requested $35 ,000 to move the

00:20:53.349 --> 00:20:56.289
lighthouse, which was denied and never requested

00:20:56.289 --> 00:21:00.369
again. So I think that they must have seen, they

00:21:00.369 --> 00:21:02.309
must have been worried about erosion or something

00:21:02.309 --> 00:21:05.609
and then was like, oh, never mind. I wonder where

00:21:05.609 --> 00:21:07.549
they're going to move it. I don't know. Like

00:21:07.549 --> 00:21:09.930
you're on an island, maybe just a little more

00:21:09.930 --> 00:21:12.009
inland or something. I don't know. Because, you

00:21:12.009 --> 00:21:14.089
know, the beach is right here. It appears, yeah,

00:21:14.130 --> 00:21:17.829
well, from this perspective, moving out. It is,

00:21:17.849 --> 00:21:19.589
I mean, yeah, the water's right there. Yeah,

00:21:19.609 --> 00:21:22.809
I don't know. But, and if you look at it today,

00:21:22.910 --> 00:21:26.650
then, you know, that erosion never came to be,

00:21:26.730 --> 00:21:29.369
so they weren't, it's a good thing that it wasn't

00:21:29.369 --> 00:21:30.710
approved because it would have been for nothing.

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In 1920, a three -ton Mercury float was installed

00:21:34.470 --> 00:21:36.529
in place of the chariot that was there already

00:21:36.529 --> 00:21:39.750
for our first -order lens, so. For anyone that

00:21:39.750 --> 00:21:42.450
wants to hear more about that, go to our Mercury

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Floats episode. That wasn't that long ago, right?

00:21:45.009 --> 00:21:47.009
No. Okay. Maybe a month. That was a more recent

00:21:47.009 --> 00:21:51.569
one. Captain Charles Swan retired after his assistant

00:21:51.569 --> 00:21:55.190
keeper of over a decade had a heart attack while

00:21:55.190 --> 00:21:57.730
relieving him in the lantern room and died. Damn.

00:21:57.829 --> 00:22:00.170
I know. And they said that he had been having

00:22:00.170 --> 00:22:02.869
chest pains while climbing the lighthouse for

00:22:02.869 --> 00:22:05.890
the past year and was just like, he just stopped,

00:22:05.930 --> 00:22:09.200
would stop halfway up to rest. And then go the

00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:10.759
rest of the way. Like, oh, I wanted to avoid

00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:13.920
having the heart pains. His heart was trying

00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.220
to tell him for so long. That's why you can't

00:22:17.220 --> 00:22:20.619
tough it out. Gotta get help. But these men were

00:22:20.619 --> 00:22:23.460
like hardcore. You gotta tough it out sometimes.

00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.000
Not when you have chest, never when you have

00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.480
heart pains. Never when you have heart pains

00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:33.440
that make you stop. Noted. So that was the end

00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:35.559
of our first head keeper. And there was only

00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:39.069
two after this. There was two. I mean, obviously,

00:22:39.089 --> 00:22:41.309
there's three keepers' houses. So there's a first

00:22:41.309 --> 00:22:44.210
assistant and a second assistant keeper. And

00:22:44.210 --> 00:22:46.869
there was a lot higher of a turnover in those

00:22:46.869 --> 00:22:49.950
than the head keepers, of which there was only

00:22:49.950 --> 00:22:53.990
three, like I said. So 1958, Oak Island Lighthouse

00:22:53.990 --> 00:22:56.970
was lit, which was really powerful. And also,

00:22:57.029 --> 00:22:59.930
I think it looks like a cigarette. Do you have

00:22:59.930 --> 00:23:02.769
a photo? I'd love to see it. No. What? I know

00:23:02.769 --> 00:23:05.940
I don't. I don't know. I think... My realization

00:23:05.940 --> 00:23:09.279
is that I really like lighthouses that are dynamic

00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:14.420
and or, you know, like conical. Like, I like

00:23:14.420 --> 00:23:16.900
it when they're tapered edges. When they're straight

00:23:16.900 --> 00:23:20.140
up and down, I don't like them. Yeah. Looks like

00:23:20.140 --> 00:23:22.160
a cigarette. Oak Island Lighthouses. Yeah, you're

00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.359
right. It's a cylinder. And it's got black top,

00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:31.579
white middle, and then tan, bare gray, tan base,

00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:33.990
all of equal length. So it looks a lot like a

00:23:33.990 --> 00:23:37.950
cigarette. Yeah. Like a lit cigarette. Not to...

00:23:37.950 --> 00:23:41.789
I mean... Obviously there's beauty in every lighthouse,

00:23:41.910 --> 00:23:45.150
but it's... Every lighthouse is beautiful. Every

00:23:45.150 --> 00:23:49.470
lighthouse is beautiful. Except for some. Yeah,

00:23:49.490 --> 00:23:51.990
but I can have my preferences. I mean, some people

00:23:51.990 --> 00:23:53.970
really don't like skeleton towers. Oh, really?

00:23:54.109 --> 00:23:57.849
Yeah. I like them. I do too. Some people really

00:23:57.849 --> 00:24:00.130
don't like integral towers. I disagree with that.

00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:02.430
You can disagree, but it's what some people feel.

00:24:03.650 --> 00:24:05.809
Am I telling you that they're wrong or right?

00:24:05.890 --> 00:24:11.710
Is this therapy? This is uncomfortable. So anyway,

00:24:11.869 --> 00:24:15.609
the building of Oak Island meant that Cape Fear

00:24:15.609 --> 00:24:17.369
was kind of unnecessary because it was less powerful

00:24:17.369 --> 00:24:21.049
and everything. And on top of that, they felt

00:24:21.049 --> 00:24:24.789
that the tower, even being up, would confuse

00:24:24.789 --> 00:24:27.210
mariners during the daytime. So you know what

00:24:27.210 --> 00:24:29.170
they did? They made it into a Christmas tree?

00:24:29.309 --> 00:24:34.309
They blew it up with dynamite. I love that that's

00:24:34.309 --> 00:24:37.410
a thing that we've done throughout history. It's

00:24:37.410 --> 00:24:38.690
just like, let's just bring it to the ground.

00:24:38.930 --> 00:24:40.529
You know, I don't know what else to do other

00:24:40.529 --> 00:24:42.750
than use explosives. Yeah, I mean, it's the best

00:24:42.750 --> 00:24:46.109
way to get it down. Just leaves a pile of rubble.

00:24:46.490 --> 00:24:49.509
I guess. Or twisted metal. Did they destroy the

00:24:49.509 --> 00:24:52.670
lantern, you think? No. So I'll talk about that

00:24:52.670 --> 00:24:56.630
in just a second. So I pulled up some pictures

00:24:56.630 --> 00:24:58.589
of its destruction, which they have a pretty

00:24:58.589 --> 00:25:01.529
cool picture of it going down. Not that we like

00:25:01.529 --> 00:25:04.289
it, but it is a cool picture. Yeah. The foundation

00:25:04.289 --> 00:25:08.329
nowadays is still visible on site and the generator

00:25:08.329 --> 00:25:10.289
house and the three keepers houses are still

00:25:10.289 --> 00:25:12.730
there as well. Cool. So here's a picture of the

00:25:12.730 --> 00:25:15.490
foundation. You can see where the central column

00:25:15.490 --> 00:25:18.809
used to be and then each of its connecting legs.

00:25:19.069 --> 00:25:22.970
Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's a bummer. Is it in the

00:25:22.970 --> 00:25:25.720
middle of a roundabout? It appears that it's

00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:29.079
a roundabout. Or it's just like where you park

00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.259
to see it or something. I don't know. I don't

00:25:31.259 --> 00:25:34.880
think you're going to go see it. What? You wouldn't

00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.740
go see that? It appears to be a roundabout. They

00:25:37.740 --> 00:25:41.519
do have a sign like it's something you see. So

00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:46.279
it's history. Well, yeah. We've seen something

00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:48.960
like this before. Yes. Where a foundation is

00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.079
still there. And it's like a shrine. Somehow,

00:25:52.220 --> 00:25:56.049
yeah, it's turned into visitors. Well, I mean,

00:25:56.069 --> 00:25:58.190
yeah. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Put brick around

00:25:58.190 --> 00:26:03.109
it. No, it's nice. In 2017, the generator house

00:26:03.109 --> 00:26:08.329
was a snack shop called Mike's Bites. I don't

00:26:08.329 --> 00:26:10.369
know what happened to it after that or what it

00:26:10.369 --> 00:26:14.009
was before that, but just in 2017 at least. And

00:26:14.009 --> 00:26:17.630
until 2022, the Keeper's houses were rental properties

00:26:17.630 --> 00:26:20.089
known as Captain Charlie's Station for the first

00:26:20.089 --> 00:26:22.880
Keeper. Cool. and are in excellent shape and

00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.539
they were put on the market in 2022 as a family

00:26:25.539 --> 00:26:27.720
compound and i think that they're still available

00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:31.700
here's from the rental properties uh what's the

00:26:31.700 --> 00:26:34.799
website what's the cost you have to inquire so

00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.380
you can't afford it okay many millions of dollars

00:26:37.380 --> 00:26:39.259
you know what they say when you have to inquire

00:26:39.259 --> 00:26:41.900
you can't afford it exactly they say yeah well

00:26:41.900 --> 00:26:43.400
that's actually not true for a lot of wedding

00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:45.900
stuff so put that out of your head i have to

00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:50.690
inquire a lot well um But it's really nice. We

00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:53.069
got some greenery. A family compound is such

00:26:53.069 --> 00:26:55.390
a flex. I know. It sounds like such a cool thing.

00:26:55.430 --> 00:26:57.630
I know. And you know those little houses that

00:26:57.630 --> 00:26:59.829
we were discussing earlier are still there. Yeah.

00:27:00.250 --> 00:27:02.750
It must be something. Part of the compound. Is

00:27:02.750 --> 00:27:04.750
there a Zillow listing? I don't know. Probably

00:27:04.750 --> 00:27:08.470
not. You have to inquire. You have to inquire.

00:27:08.529 --> 00:27:13.230
Yeah, it was Intracoastal Realty something company.

00:27:13.490 --> 00:27:15.930
I don't know. But yeah, you guys can look it

00:27:15.930 --> 00:27:18.609
up. It's got what looks like private beach access.

00:27:19.420 --> 00:27:22.920
Right out the front door. A little pathway, you

00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.319
know. Whoever buys it, let us come visit. Yeah,

00:27:26.339 --> 00:27:28.759
actually you owe us for putting this out there.

00:27:28.900 --> 00:27:36.359
Well, finder's fee. Finder's fee. Oh, man. So

00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.420
yeah, it's pretty nice and still kicking. Those

00:27:38.420 --> 00:27:40.259
are beautiful homes. It looks like a great area.

00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:42.880
So you asked about the Fresnel Lens and what

00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:47.200
happened to that in 2009. The old Baldy Foundation.

00:27:49.150 --> 00:27:51.569
which I'll definitely cover that when we get

00:27:51.569 --> 00:27:55.210
to Bald Head Lighthouse, purchased the remnants

00:27:55.210 --> 00:27:57.970
of the Cape Fear Fresnel lens, which was set

00:27:57.970 --> 00:28:00.990
up outside an antique dealer in Wilmington, North

00:28:00.990 --> 00:28:04.170
Carolina. So what happened was the contractor

00:28:04.170 --> 00:28:07.829
that demolished the lighthouse had the good sense

00:28:07.829 --> 00:28:10.769
to save the lens, right? Which, by the way, would

00:28:10.769 --> 00:28:14.150
be an insane amount of work to remove it. Remember,

00:28:14.230 --> 00:28:17.930
you have to take it all apart. Every prism. And

00:28:17.930 --> 00:28:21.670
I'll show you a picture. They had this lens at

00:28:21.670 --> 00:28:25.690
an exhibition or whatever, exposition in 1901.

00:28:26.049 --> 00:28:28.250
So they had a picture of it there. So I'll show

00:28:28.250 --> 00:28:31.730
you how massive it, like if you think about it.

00:28:31.789 --> 00:28:34.670
Anyway, it's crazy. But he had the good sense

00:28:34.670 --> 00:28:37.589
to take it apart and sold it to the antique shop

00:28:37.589 --> 00:28:43.089
owner in 1968. Same guy. Still there. Crazy.

00:28:43.130 --> 00:28:46.410
Oh, I have a picture. of what it looked like

00:28:46.410 --> 00:28:50.269
outside of the antique shop so you'd have to

00:28:50.269 --> 00:28:53.809
know your stuff to realize that this was a fresnel

00:28:53.809 --> 00:28:57.930
lens frame looks like the eye of sauron yes that's

00:28:57.930 --> 00:29:00.549
i was like what does this remind me of the lord

00:29:00.549 --> 00:29:03.109
of the rings that's hilarious the lord of the

00:29:03.109 --> 00:29:05.710
rings like evil eye in the sky i couldn't think

00:29:05.710 --> 00:29:07.809
of it yeah because there's no top like obviously

00:29:07.809 --> 00:29:10.289
it was a fresnel and so like it's missing some

00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:13.289
of its framework but It was outside, just in

00:29:13.289 --> 00:29:15.150
the elements for all that time. I'm surprised

00:29:15.150 --> 00:29:18.910
it's not made of brass. I thought all, I don't

00:29:18.910 --> 00:29:20.470
know why I thought that, but I thought all those

00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:23.670
materials, I mean, cast iron we've seen, but.

00:29:24.269 --> 00:29:28.009
Maybe the parts that were brass are gone. I don't

00:29:28.009 --> 00:29:30.289
know. Because remember how many, you know, how

00:29:30.289 --> 00:29:32.710
many frames. So all the glass is gone. Yes. And

00:29:32.710 --> 00:29:34.690
all the, yeah, probably all the brass that was

00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:37.329
framed around. The prisms he separated and sold

00:29:37.329 --> 00:29:39.630
to customers over time and at various auctions

00:29:39.630 --> 00:29:42.089
and sales. They're in people's houses. Exactly.

00:29:42.910 --> 00:29:46.130
Meaning the prisons are spread all over North

00:29:46.130 --> 00:29:48.069
Carolina and beyond. Like at this point, who

00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:49.750
knows where they are? I'm sure a lot of them

00:29:49.750 --> 00:29:52.329
are like at the dump. If you have like grandma's

00:29:52.329 --> 00:29:54.690
estate sale and you're like, what is this hunk

00:29:54.690 --> 00:29:57.089
of glass? You throw it in the trash. Yeah, like

00:29:57.089 --> 00:29:59.210
a hundred pound hunk of glass. Yeah, it just

00:29:59.210 --> 00:30:02.650
looks like a hunk of glass. Yeah, grandma's always

00:30:02.650 --> 00:30:05.430
holding on to shit. Yeah. You would never know

00:30:05.430 --> 00:30:07.069
that you had something special. That was the

00:30:07.069 --> 00:30:10.400
lighthouse. Like, how could you do this? So now

00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.400
that they have the complete framework, the foundation,

00:30:12.660 --> 00:30:17.220
they have gone to work trying to find all approximately

00:30:17.220 --> 00:30:22.460
1 ,000 prisms that made up this lens. And so

00:30:22.460 --> 00:30:25.420
far they have collected around a third. So that's

00:30:25.420 --> 00:30:29.160
significant. And that includes seven bullseyes.

00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:33.200
Wow. Yeah. Pretty good. We're making some excellent

00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.819
headway. That's cool. And they mentioned in...

00:30:36.109 --> 00:30:38.009
you know, the articles that they've done that

00:30:38.009 --> 00:30:40.029
it's pretty much a pipe dream to expect to ever

00:30:40.029 --> 00:30:42.410
find the whole thing. But it's kind of fun to

00:30:42.410 --> 00:30:44.670
be like putting it back together. Don't you wonder

00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:48.109
where they're at? Well, they said that some have

00:30:48.109 --> 00:30:50.809
been used as paperweights. Some have just been

00:30:50.809 --> 00:30:53.069
found like in storage or under beds. Like one

00:30:53.069 --> 00:30:55.369
of them was just under somebody's bed. And one

00:30:55.369 --> 00:30:57.910
bullseye was used as a coffee table and had burned

00:30:57.910 --> 00:31:01.410
a hole in their carpet. That's awesome. Like

00:31:01.410 --> 00:31:03.369
what a way to learn that you have something that's...

00:31:03.609 --> 00:31:06.970
Really powerful. That's such a cool discovery.

00:31:07.509 --> 00:31:10.049
Yeah. I know what that is. And I wonder, yeah,

00:31:10.069 --> 00:31:11.849
if you get approached or if you just like put

00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:13.910
it out there. I don't know. Rambo's always had

00:31:13.910 --> 00:31:17.369
this huge ass coffee table. It's heavy. And for

00:31:17.369 --> 00:31:19.769
some reason it burned the ground. What? What?

00:31:21.170 --> 00:31:23.670
So they're planning on building an exhibit near

00:31:23.670 --> 00:31:26.990
Old Bali to house the lens whenever they get

00:31:26.990 --> 00:31:29.369
more pieces. Very cool. Yeah, hopefully before

00:31:29.369 --> 00:31:31.849
like they get too much further. I kind of want

00:31:31.849 --> 00:31:34.069
to see it. As it is right now. I wish they could

00:31:34.069 --> 00:31:36.549
put it together and then the pieces that they

00:31:36.549 --> 00:31:38.509
don't have make those like black glass or something.

00:31:38.730 --> 00:31:41.569
Yeah, like some way to mark what it should look

00:31:41.569 --> 00:31:44.170
like. But here I have a picture of it at the

00:31:44.170 --> 00:31:47.230
exhibition. That's crazy. And at the top you

00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:50.569
can see every single one of those little prisms.

00:31:50.569 --> 00:31:54.730
Just so crazy. And the contractor sold all those?

00:31:55.069 --> 00:31:58.009
Sold the whole thing. In its entirety, yeah,

00:31:58.109 --> 00:32:00.589
to the antique shop. And then the antique shop

00:32:00.589 --> 00:32:03.349
owner were selling, like, pieces off at a time.

00:32:03.670 --> 00:32:06.970
I mean, I get it. Yeah, no, you can't blame him,

00:32:06.990 --> 00:32:09.650
really. It's just, like, if it's not special

00:32:09.650 --> 00:32:11.670
to you, it's not special to you. That's such

00:32:11.670 --> 00:32:14.269
a shame. I know, but it's pretty cool. And I'm

00:32:14.269 --> 00:32:17.049
glad this picture from the exhibition is, like,

00:32:17.049 --> 00:32:18.349
showing what it looks like. And you can see there's

00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:20.970
a tiny replica of a skeleton lighthouse in front

00:32:20.970 --> 00:32:25.599
of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What a time. It is kind

00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:26.880
of funny looking at this picture, too. They have

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.140
things just like set up here and there, just

00:32:29.140 --> 00:32:32.000
stuff. Like, take a look at what we've come up

00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.420
with over the past year. And people would just

00:32:34.420 --> 00:32:36.579
get together and just take a look. This is when

00:32:36.579 --> 00:32:39.339
engineering was really cool. Yeah. It was just

00:32:39.339 --> 00:32:41.539
like, what can you come up with? Now it's like,

00:32:41.579 --> 00:32:44.740
we draw on computers. I was thinking about that

00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:47.039
today during the model review, like that we just,

00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:53.990
we have scans of an entire refinery. Like. It

00:32:53.990 --> 00:32:57.269
just blew my mind. Every inch. Just... Hundreds

00:32:57.269 --> 00:33:00.609
of scans. Between pipes? How? I don't get it.

00:33:00.809 --> 00:33:03.390
It's crazy. Yeah. How can you scroll through

00:33:03.390 --> 00:33:08.410
miles and miles of pipe and just have it all

00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:11.869
there in 3D version? Yeah. I mean, I did like

00:33:11.869 --> 00:33:14.430
a... They have some incredible technology now

00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:16.609
for scanning 3D. I know we're a little off topic,

00:33:16.670 --> 00:33:20.960
but... I got paid to go to Colorado and I used

00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.400
a camera. So not even a scanner. Yeah. Just a

00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.400
360 camera and a tripod and my phone for two

00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:31.839
days, two and a half days to map out every inch

00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.900
inside and outside the roof, everything on this

00:33:34.900 --> 00:33:38.940
facility. I can't say more about it. And it all

00:33:38.940 --> 00:33:42.000
goes together in one big computer model. So they

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.819
sent me to go and then everyone who ever works

00:33:44.819 --> 00:33:47.220
in that project knows what it looks like. Yeah.

00:33:47.299 --> 00:33:49.319
They can like fly through every square inch of

00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.599
that place. And that's, you know, there's more

00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.660
advanced scanners and whatnot. Yeah. Yeah. But,

00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:55.779
but still crazy. That's like all it takes. It's

00:33:55.779 --> 00:33:58.980
so crazy. Yeah. And just have that forever until

00:33:58.980 --> 00:34:00.900
somebody throws it away. Like they're going to

00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:02.779
throw away every single one of these pieces of

00:34:02.779 --> 00:34:06.059
glass. It would be nice to have seen it when

00:34:06.059 --> 00:34:09.400
it was brand new, like fresh out of the system

00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:13.980
and set up. Yeah. But it was beautiful. So hopefully

00:34:13.980 --> 00:34:16.179
we'll get to see it again one day, refurbished

00:34:16.179 --> 00:34:20.179
and. Set up in this exhibit. So we saw a first

00:34:20.179 --> 00:34:26.420
order lens in KitKad. Is that one of the only

00:34:26.420 --> 00:34:29.199
ones on display? Are there many? I think there

00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.739
are not many, but I don't think it's... It's

00:34:32.739 --> 00:34:35.139
not common. Yeah, it's not common, but it's also

00:34:35.139 --> 00:34:39.059
not super rare, I think. That one had a little

00:34:39.059 --> 00:34:41.239
bit of damage, if I remember right. Yeah. I think

00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.460
the goal for a lot of maritime museums is to

00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:45.280
have something like a First Order Fresnel lens.

00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.840
So if you go to a maritime museum, it's likely

00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.860
that they'll have something. Yeah. Even if it's

00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:52.440
just like a piece or something. I think it was

00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:57.820
Gay Headlight. Is that where the museum? In Martha's

00:34:57.820 --> 00:35:01.440
Vineyard. Yeah. It was fantastic. Worth the walk.

00:35:01.539 --> 00:35:04.300
But I remember, I was like, oh my gosh. They

00:35:04.300 --> 00:35:07.429
built three stories of a building. Like as a

00:35:07.429 --> 00:35:10.170
balcony around this thing. It makes sense. I

00:35:10.170 --> 00:35:12.849
mean, it's really special. And it's huge. It's

00:35:12.849 --> 00:35:18.050
crazy. There's no other way to see it. And that's

00:35:18.050 --> 00:35:21.050
what I have for the episode. Nice. A little bit

00:35:21.050 --> 00:35:22.829
of frying pan, a little bit of light shift, a

00:35:22.829 --> 00:35:24.289
little bit of lighthouse. I really enjoyed the

00:35:24.289 --> 00:35:27.389
frying pan. I would like to see it. I'm glad

00:35:27.389 --> 00:35:31.469
to know it now because I was... Oh, I didn't

00:35:31.469 --> 00:35:34.650
include this picture. There was one picture of

00:35:34.650 --> 00:35:36.869
frying pan next to another light ship that said

00:35:36.869 --> 00:35:40.789
hens and chickens on the side. What is the hens

00:35:40.789 --> 00:35:43.730
and chickens light ship? I've got to know. And

00:35:43.730 --> 00:35:46.110
you don't, you didn't look. I don't. Cause I

00:35:46.110 --> 00:35:48.590
was just going to mention like, this is what

00:35:48.590 --> 00:35:50.929
happens is I'm like frying pan. We'll have to

00:35:50.929 --> 00:35:53.650
leave that for a future. Yeah. I'm going to leave.

00:35:53.690 --> 00:35:58.489
I'm not buoy. Yeah. Tie it in. Tie it down. Chickens.

00:35:58.489 --> 00:36:04.699
That's so funny. That's all. Thank you for listening

00:36:04.699 --> 00:36:06.840
to me talk about this one. It was actually fun

00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.840
because it's like low key, not a ton of information,

00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.460
but unique history. It's a good story. It's a

00:36:14.460 --> 00:36:17.579
cool lighthouse. Good history. The buoy was nice.

00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.920
I wanted to say thanks to our listeners on YouTube,

00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.460
which I'm learning. They're not usually the same

00:36:24.460 --> 00:36:27.519
listeners as the podcast to YouTube watchers,

00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.920
but thanks. Last time I asked for people to go

00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.530
follow us and we had quite a spike. Oh, did we?

00:36:32.670 --> 00:36:36.050
Yeah. I mean, biggest ever. That's great. Like

00:36:36.050 --> 00:36:38.190
I said, we usually don't ask for stuff like that.

00:36:38.210 --> 00:36:40.449
I don't want to be annoying, but that was nice,

00:36:40.630 --> 00:36:43.909
so thanks. Very good. And what was I going to

00:36:43.909 --> 00:36:51.070
say? Oh, man, I had something else to say. Do

00:36:51.070 --> 00:36:55.309
we have a listener right now? No, it wasn't listener

00:36:55.309 --> 00:36:57.829
related. I was going to say something else, and

00:36:57.829 --> 00:36:59.210
then you started talking about the YouTube, so

00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:01.760
now I can't remember. Sorry. We got a YouTube

00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.780
comment. That we're like fun with flags. Fun

00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:09.260
with flags, which is, I looked it up. I didn't

00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:11.679
know what they were referring to. It was a show.

00:37:12.019 --> 00:37:15.900
Not How I Met Your Mother. Big Bang Theory. Oh,

00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:17.900
yes. Big Bang Theory, Sheldon. Sheldon and Amy.

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.380
He has a podcast he starts talking about flags.

00:37:20.619 --> 00:37:22.340
I know. I couldn't tell if it was an insult or

00:37:22.340 --> 00:37:26.420
not. I don't know. That we're like a. Social

00:37:26.420 --> 00:37:29.119
recluse trying to talk about something that most

00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:33.599
people don't find interesting. Right. A couple

00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.960
of engineers get together. Dang it. Well, I took

00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.559
it as a compliment because I smiled when I was

00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.280
watching the skit. All right. That's good. Yeah.

00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:44.739
I mean, we're kind of that. We're fun with flags.

00:37:44.900 --> 00:37:49.900
Fun with flags. Fun with lighthouses. Yep. So

00:37:49.900 --> 00:37:52.519
what else? That's it. Check out our Instagram.

00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.480
Oh, I'm really behind on the Instagram. I'm pretty

00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:57.519
sure like I haven't posted anything for the past

00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.960
four episodes or something. I don't know what's,

00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:04.019
I don't know why. What are you doing? It'll be

00:38:04.019 --> 00:38:05.599
okay. I don't know. Just make a couple posts

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.460
and catch everybody up. Yeah. I'll just, yeah.

00:38:09.739 --> 00:38:14.480
Yeah. See, but at this point, yeah. Yeah. This

00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.940
will be episode number five. This is episode

00:38:16.940 --> 00:38:21.739
79. 78. 78. We get to 100, we're going to do

00:38:21.739 --> 00:38:23.699
something special. We're not going to do that

00:38:23.699 --> 00:38:27.440
until next year. That's fine. Okay. And you can

00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.980
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00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.320
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00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:35.739
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00:38:35.739 --> 00:38:41.760
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