Episode 96 - Big Bay Point Lighthouse

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Okay, you ready? I'm ready. Hey everybody, I'm

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Emily. And I'm Vince. And this is The Lighthouse

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Lowdown. Cute. You look up at me like... Gotta

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throw a long pause in there to mix it up. The

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Lighthouse Lowdown. Keep everybody on their toes.

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On your toes. It is spooky season. Spooky season.

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Yeah. Let's go, it's October. Getting into it,

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Vince and I are doing lots of stuff to prepare.

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Got a party coming up. Yeah, so this kind of

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fell into the back burner, but it'll be done

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in time because that's the kind of people we

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are. We're decorating the house. We're also building

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the house. Put a graveyard in the front yard.

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Yep. There's purple lights. My first time putting

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up spotlights on the house. Scary movies. Yeah,

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it's a whole thing. Spooky season. We got, I

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was going to say potatoes. Pumpkins. We've got

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potatoes. Potatoes. Pumpkins. Yeah. Pumpkins

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for our party. Pumpkin. Ring toss. That's right.

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Classic. Toss it on the stem. I think it'll be

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hilarious. By the way, do we have rings? Yes.

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Nice. They're coming in the mail. Just like a

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million other items. Nice. Vince gave me a budget

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and I stuck to it exactly. Actually, that's a

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lie. I went $1 over. $1? Have you included taxes?

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Exactly. I was below it before taxes. Robbery.

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Government robbery. It's pretty high. He's adjusting

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his microphone. You guys can't hear it, though.

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It's fine. We have A -plus machinery. Well, our

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table is plastic. Oh, yeah. Holding plastic table.

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But I think we're doing good. So what are we

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talking about today? Well, I'm taking a break.

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And I feel like I've said that a lot. We take

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breaks from things. It's fine. Taking a break

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from Green Islands because it's spooky season

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and I have to do a spooky lighthouse. So that's

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what I'm doing today. Spooky lighthouse. Thank

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you. Here's our history buoy. For those of you

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not yet watching, you can get on YouTube if you'd

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like to see us on the Lighthouse Slowdown podcast

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on YouTube. The screen says in all caps, I'm

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a loser. I did not prepare. I started to prepare

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a history buoy, but we've talked about foghorns.

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Right? Didn't you cover foghorns? I don't know,

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but it seems likely. Because you posted a video

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of the foghorn that you took when you were younger,

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right? Okay, but then I used AI to try and find...

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In my defense, we have a hundred folders with

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a hundred different sets of notes. It's pretty

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good. It probably found it. No, it said, well...

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I said, look through all these files and find

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if we talk about foghorns. And it like summarized

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all the times we talked about it and none of

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them were a history buoy. So, well, yeah, I don't

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know. So, so what I was going to talk about was

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the type of foghorn that they use at this lighthouse.

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And the more I got into it, the more I was like,

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I really can't remember if we covered this already.

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And I would, I would be remiss to cover another.

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I mean, it's, it would be okay. So, I mean. You

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think it's better or worse than just skipping

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it altogether? Better. Yeah. But that's all right.

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Yeah. Sometimes we don't have. This is why it

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says I'm a loser. For those of you who might

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be joining us on the show, welcome. What we like

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to do on almost every episode is a lighthouse

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history buoy where. It's not a lighthouse history

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buoy. Okay, it's a history buoy. Sorry. Sorry.

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It's where we say something interesting about.

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a fact, a history, it could be a patent, it could

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be a piece of technology, it could be a happening

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in historical record of something that's somewhat

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related to the episode almost always. But it's

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kind of a fun fact to throw in that maybe didn't

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fit anywhere else in an episode. That's a great

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summary. Good job. Everyone who already knew

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that, there you go. You've been reminded. You're

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our best friends. You're here all the time. Welcome

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back. So I'll go on to our lighthouse. No buoy.

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Maybe next time. I try my best. So like I said,

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we're taking a break from Green Islands. And

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I looked up, like I do every Halloween time,

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the most haunted lighthouses. And there's a lot

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that comes up every year. And I'm like, that

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would be great. But there's so much history that

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I'm like, no. Oh, it's like super long stories.

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Yeah, it's like Owl's Head or... Whatever, you

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know, like some really well -documented lighthouse.

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And I'm like, I don't have the capacity right

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now to cover this the way that it deserves. It's

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like a spooky episode has to be like a little

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more on the stories than the history of the lighthouse.

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Sure. So I chose one that you may recognize.

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We are going to Big Bay Point, Michigan along

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Lake Superior. Do you remember this lighthouse?

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Big Bay. I don't. It's not ringing a bell. I

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know the area well. Standard Rock is out there.

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Right across, yeah. You can see it by the gold

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star in our map. We talked about this briefly

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when I was pitching the Duluth. Yeah, the trip.

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What is it, Duluth? Minnesota. Minnesota. Because

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we were talking about driving along the coastline

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to visit some of these lighthouses. I still want

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to. Yeah, yeah. No, it's still out there. Our

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list is so long of things we want to do with

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lighthouses. Anywhere. I would even do what we've

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already done. again for those of you i agree

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who don't know we went on two lighthouse right

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together two lighthouse focused trips uh one

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was the first was to the outer banks north carolina

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big lighthouses great time the second was to

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cape cod small lighthouses um massachusetts great

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time and so the next one I don't know. I mean,

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we've talked about a lot of different things.

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I feel like you're going to be pining for the

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West Coast until we go. But the West Coast itself

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is big, too. I know, but you know what I'm talking

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about. Well, I'm thinking, if you guys really

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care, go check out Lighthouse Tourism. I think

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it was a two -part episode I did where I talked

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about we kind of pitched some trips to one another,

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and I'm pretty sure it's included there. Oh,

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really? I don't remember. Um, and we decided

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at that time we decided on Cape Cod, but my,

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my pitch was like some family related areas I

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have up in the Northwest Washington state and,

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uh, down, I would say down to, um, what is it?

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The graveyard of the Pacific is destruction day.

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Uh, disappointment. This Cape disappointment.

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Yep. Yeah. I don't remember. They all sound the

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same right now. Sorry. We get out of touch with

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the lighthouse stuff and then we come back into

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it. Yeah, we got to retouch it. It has to be

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a focal point of our life again because right

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now we're so consumed by house stuff that we

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don't really have time to immerse ourselves in

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some other hobby. But we're going to come back

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around, everybody. Don't worry. Anyway, it's

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hard to describe the way that this point looks.

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So everyone go check it out on our YouTube. It

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has like a lake. right along the edge so hard

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to describe pretty cool yeah it's a goofy looking

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point um but that's on lake superior um so the

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question being why did we need a lighthouse here

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it popped up uh what was the year even 1892 was

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when it was recommended by lighthouse board to

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build a station here prime time and the point

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or the reason the point the reason for that was

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that Um, there's two other lighthouses or at

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least there were, I'm pretty sure there still

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is on either side, um, separated by like 15 miles

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on either side and there was no lighthouse in

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between them. So it was just like this dark period

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of the coast that was well traveled because people

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were going from Marquette to, you know, the West.

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Duluth. Whatever else is over there. Duluth is

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a big shipping on the West side. Okay. Then Duluth.

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I know they said something else, though, so whatever.

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And I want to go to Thunder Bay while I see it

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on the map. I want to go up there. Oh. It's cool.

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This is between Granite Island and Huron. Huron?

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Huron. Huron. Okay. Take it for Granite. Take

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it for Granite. Good one, Vince. Thank you. Very

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good. And for your own kudos. And then. On top

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of that, there was protected anchorage on either

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side of this point. So like if there was a storm

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for our viewers, because Vince knows right away

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what I'm talking about. Yes. The point protects

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heavily from storm and winds on either side,

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just naturally. And so this was a place where

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ships could pull over effectively if they were

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caught in a storm. And Lake Superior has some

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big old storms. They've actually had songs about

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them. Yeah. the old storms you think of yeah

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if you want to i wish i knew the episode offhand

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but i did talk about the sinking of the edmund

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fitzgerald and the song that was written about

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it and i played the song two times during that

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episode because that's so much fun we don't advertise

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we're not sponsored right now so we can do whatever

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we want right now so i played right now seven

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minutes of licensed music because it's just promotional

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yeah So anyways, if you want to go listen to

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the song twice, you can go listen to that episode.

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Also, it's me alone, which is crazy. Yeah. Emily

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was having a crisis somewhere else. A crisis?

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I mean, it's fine. I'm the only one who's allowed

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to say that. Oh, sorry. She was having a bridal

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shower. Yeah. But it was tough. It was tough.

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It was tough. It was tough for everybody. Anyways.

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Okay. 1892 suggested we have a lighthouse here.

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Congress authorized it a year later, and in 94,

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they appropriated $25 ,000 and acquired five

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acres for it the year after that. And they started

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work in May 1896 and finished in October. So

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very quick turnaround for construction, considering

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how beautiful this lighthouse is. I'll pull up

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a picture. Really? It's old, so you can't really

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tell, but this is our lighthouse. Okay. I like

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the architecture a lot. Yeah, it's very tall.

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So it's a two -story, 18 -room red brick duplex.

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So it was humungo. Huge. It's humungo. And it

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was half for the principal keeper, half for the

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assistant keeper. So we had principal, assistant

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at the beginning. Can you explain why it was

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so big? No. Okay. A lot of rooms. Yeah, they

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just did that. Black and white photo. It looks

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like a tiny little bluff, but it's actually...

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It's a cliff? It's a good amount, yeah. So big

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old trees all around this thing. Very heavily

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wooded area, which comes into our exit later.

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And a very tall lighthouse integral to the keeper's

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home. Cool. Cute, cute. Yeah. That tower is 16

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feet, not including the house. So humongous.

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And the lantern, because of that, the lantern

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room is 64 feet off the ground. 64 feet! The

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house is humongous. It's a big house. It's like

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a four -story house. It's crazy. And then with

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the bluffs, the focal plane is 89 feet above

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Lake Superior. Bizarre. I don't understand. They

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had all sorts of money. This is not typical.

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I've never seen a house this big. This amount

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of money and size. I love it. It's just crazy.

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Okay. I said these were hot times for lighthouses,

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the late 1800s. Yeah. Really were. Just doing

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the whole thing, whatever they wanted. They also

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built a landing crib, barn, oil house, two brick

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privies and separate red brick fog signal building,

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which at the time wasn't a fog signal, but it

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was a steam whistle. Yeah. Yeah. They had a third

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order lens and it had four rotating flash panels,

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which produced a flash every 20 seconds. And

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it had one of the weight driven mechanisms that

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rewound that they had to manually rewind every

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five hours. But the waits started in the service

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room underneath the lantern room and then went

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all the way to the basement of the house. I was

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going to say, do you have any photos of that?

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No. Oh. Everybody, imagine a grandfather clock.

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Yeah, yeah. But it's a four -story house. So

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cool. And it's like, imagine, imagine if it was

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like. I was like, why does that sound? I did

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have something stuck. But imagine if you had

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this house today. And then you have like a chain

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work mechanism. Just in the middle. Yeah. Like,

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oh, you have a chandelier. That's fun. This runs

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a giant lighthouse. And it's like running. Like

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it's dropping slowly. I'll have to go rewind

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in five hours. 10 inch steam whistle. It's a

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big whistle. And the water for that was supplied

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by a 20 by 20 foot crib that was sunk in Lake

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Superior. Interesting. So they drew water from

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the lake. Yeah. Yeah. From a crib. I don't understand

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the crib part. I forgot. I think it was to filter.

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Yeah, okay. Yeah, so it's like you had non -sedimenty

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water being pushed through. Going through a boiler.

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Yeah. Oh, this goes into more detail about Keeper's

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Cottage. Each side had a kitchen, parlor, dining

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room, and three bedrooms. Wow. And so they lived

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with their families there, so that kind of explains.

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But still, they didn't used to have that kind

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of... Luxury. Very uncommon. Your whole family

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would share one bedroom. That was kind of what

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it used to be like. Or a single room. Three bedrooms?

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That's crazy. There were some lighthouse keepers

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that had single rooms that had a stove and a

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table and a bed. Yeah. Like a cabin style. Yeah,

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this was living in luxury. I had a basement cistern

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which collected rainwater. And unfortunately,

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at some point, I don't know when, they discovered

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that they had used lead paint. The cistern. And

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so then they started having to take water from

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the lake. It's like something they didn't really

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fix until there was plumbing. Yeah. In like five

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gallon buckets. That sucks. Yeah. So, and you

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would have to like boil that water, right? To

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use it? No, it's fresh water. Oh. So. I think

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there's stuff in it. There, there probably, I

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mean, if you and I went out there and we went

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camping, we'd boil it. Okay. Right. But if you

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drink it all the time. I think you would be okay.

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It depends on, you know, what area you're talking

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about, what pollution and whatnot. But people

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have been drinking fresh water for all of history.

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Yeah, and maybe before the 1900s, this was probably

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still pretty clean. Well, and people were just

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kind of sick all the time. Oh. You know, like,

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oh, I don't feel well today. It's just another

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day. Versus now, we're like, oh, I only got seven

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hours of sleep. Hey, that comes into play later.

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Oh, okay. Yeah. Thanks for... Wrapping it in.

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Last thing I'll say about this. October 20th,

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1896 is when our light and fog signal began operation.

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Cool. We know someone that's their anniversary.

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Not 1896. Oh. I was like, what? How old are they?

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Sorry, keep going. I'm hopped up on caffeine

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now. Great, great grandparents. Okay, so I'm

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going to talk about our first keeper here at

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the lighthouse. The OG. Please. His name was

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William H. Pryor. He transferred from Standard

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Rock, so he was used to hard living. Oh, Vince

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is going to be doing this. He worked there prior.

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Ah, good one. You don't want to hit your button?

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No, I've hit enough buttons for now. I think

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that one deserved it a lot more than... Excellent.

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But when you're on Standard Rock, you can't live

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with your family. So I'm pretty sure his family

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lived in Marquette for a while, and then they

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all got to move in together at this lighthouse.

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So he upgraded. From Standard Rock to... Oh,

00:16:46.179 --> 00:16:48.659
yeah. Standard Rock, one of our favorite lighthouses,

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is on its own little concrete crib that was erected...

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On a reef. What is it? 10 miles off the coast?

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It's a ways. I think it's more than that. 40?

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It's some time off the coast. Like where it takes

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you like hours to fly there. Boat there. Boat

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there. Yeah. But we have covered Standard Rock

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in the past. We've actually interviewed and talked

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about people who... Know a lot about Standard

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Rock. So check that out if you're interested.

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Very cool lighthouse. Explosion happened there

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at one point. Big explosion. Yeah. So prior was

00:17:22.779 --> 00:17:24.880
there before the explosion. Must have been because

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he's in good health. And yeah, this is way more

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accessible, I would think, and luxurious. Like

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it was still in the middle of nowhere from major

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cities. Like the nearest hospital was in Marquette.

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So it's kind of far. But apparently he ruled.

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as a principal keeper with an iron fist, kept

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meticulous logs in his log books to the point

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of where it's like a diary that he's keeping

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track of all of his thoughts and feelings. Yeah,

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as he was drinking lead water. Yeah. And he experienced

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repeated conflicts with his assistants. And he

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said himself that he had trouble keeping them

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because he was so hard to work with, I think.

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Dang. In 1896, a seven, excuse me. the first

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year that he's on the job, he walked around 30

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miles to Marquette, walked to visit his dying

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sister and attend her funeral, and he was gone

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for like a week and a half or something. And

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when he got back, he said that his assistant

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had allegedly neglected the station. On his return,

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he wrote in the logbook that the assistant didn't

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appear to have done any work in the week he was

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gone, plus a bunch of nasty stuff about this

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man's wife. I would love to know the real story.

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It's like a whole paragraph of like, he doesn't

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have any backbone to stand up to his wife. She

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is lingering around him, not letting him work.

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Like all kinds of stuff, which maybe is just

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how it was. They were just connecting. And he's

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like, no. None of that. Yeah, that was a whole

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paragraph. Was Mr. Pryor single? No, he had a

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wife and kids. So I don't know. Maybe they were

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just more independent. I think I would be hanging.

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If you were working in the house, I would. Also,

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hang around. That's cute. Well, I'd get talked

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about. I'd tell you to go away. Quote, he wrote,

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as my assistant objects to working during the

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closed season, I have written to the inspector

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to get his opinion on the matter. Oh. Brutal.

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He answered that on December 27th. And then he

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said, quote, my assistant claims now that he

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is unable to work as he has a lame back. That

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was New Year's. And in February, he wrote. Quote,

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Mr. Heater arrived from Marquette at 6 p .m.

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and walked the entire distance of 33 miles in

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12 hours, including two rest stops over an hour

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each. Pretty good gate for a lame man. And then

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he said that same month, Mr. Heater came across

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the ice to the other side of Big Bay with his

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wife. It is Sunday and his back is not lame today.

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So he's just like absolutely picking this guy

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apart. He's like, oh, he says he has a lame back,

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so he can't work. And then his subsequent. log

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book writings are like, somebody who doesn't

00:20:09.789 --> 00:20:11.970
have a lame back today. Look how strong his back

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is. Listen, I once knew a story of someone who

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couldn't do dishes. You know, their neck just,

00:20:22.089 --> 00:20:24.890
oh, they're just something. I can't tell you.

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It better not be me. No, no, no. But they couldn't

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do dishes because looking down and something.

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But, you know, they loved skiing and surfing

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and riding bikes and playing tennis. All these

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things. But it's the ergonomics. They just can't

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do it. So he's not been the first one. Who is

00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:49.670
it? I can't say. You listen to our podcast? Everyone

00:20:49.670 --> 00:20:53.609
listens to our podcast. So true. So after that,

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there was like a few months of butting heads.

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The assistant was transferred to Granite Island

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Lighthouse and replaced with another assistant.

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And apparently this assistant was even worse,

00:21:02.690 --> 00:21:05.329
according to Pryor. Oh no, new kid. He wrote...

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He evidently expects me to work with him wherever

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he is at work, and if I do not, he leaves work

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and does nothing until I get back to him. So

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that's pretty bad. Ooh, greatest generation.

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He said he is too high -strung for a lightkeeper's

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assistant. Between himself and his wife this

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season, I imagine that I am keeping a home for

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the helpless poor instead of a U .S. lighthouse.

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Yo! Like, oh my God, I and my family having to

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do the greater part of the work while they receive

00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:33.609
the pay. So, yeah, he... He had a lot to say

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in this logbook. This is on record. It's tough.

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He turns these things in. He really was military.

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Evidently, he put him on a steamer for home eventually

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in 1898 and said, he is, quote, without exception,

00:21:48.619 --> 00:21:50.839
the most ungrateful and the meanest man I've

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ever met. Wow. That wasn't long. No, not at all.

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That was like less than a year, I'm pretty sure.

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So, Pryor sent himself. Hard to work with. But

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I think he just loved his job. I think he just

00:22:04.140 --> 00:22:05.819
was like, this is how you do it right. And if

00:22:05.819 --> 00:22:07.079
you're not going to do it right, then you're

00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:11.000
a failure. Which, it's an important spot. There's

00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.859
been lots of wrecks on this point. You do need

00:22:13.859 --> 00:22:16.680
people like that. I was listening to a podcast

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yesterday and this morning. Do you know the name

00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.640
Nick Saban? No. It's a long story. There's a

00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.380
documentary coming out about him. But he was

00:22:27.380 --> 00:22:29.920
known most recently as a football coach for Alabama.

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And you would recognize him. I guarantee it.

00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:36.359
Um, he's been at a, like a bunch of movies and,

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um, he was on TV all the time. Uh, very good

00:22:39.779 --> 00:22:43.200
football coach, head coach program. Um, and,

00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:45.740
but his personality is, he talks to this interview.

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He's like, that's how I saw it was like, I would

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learn how people needed to be motivated and some

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people needed to be disciplined and discipline

00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.740
wasn't punishment. Discipline was what it takes

00:22:56.740 --> 00:22:58.980
to change your behavior. Yeah. And I was like,

00:22:59.059 --> 00:23:02.069
Oh, like this guy, he's like, you know, He talks

00:23:02.069 --> 00:23:05.190
about he's retired. He's like 73. He's like,

00:23:05.250 --> 00:23:08.630
we were in traffic the other day and there's

00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:11.430
this long merge and I stopped. My wife freaked

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out because I always was the person who would

00:23:14.170 --> 00:23:16.069
drive right up to the front and try to get in

00:23:16.069 --> 00:23:18.690
next. And he goes, but now I'm not in a rush

00:23:18.690 --> 00:23:21.329
anymore. I've been in a rush my whole life. The

00:23:21.329 --> 00:23:24.089
point is there's still people like that. And

00:23:24.089 --> 00:23:27.190
they are head coaches. That type of personality.

00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:29.329
They're the type that make it up to leadership

00:23:29.329 --> 00:23:31.619
because of their... Tenacity. Yeah, excellent

00:23:31.619 --> 00:23:34.500
leadership. But they're not making a lot of friends,

00:23:34.579 --> 00:23:36.359
I wouldn't imagine. No. I think that's to say,

00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:38.200
I think that's probably what this is. Like, Pryor

00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:42.119
was an excellent keeper and struggled a lot with

00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.089
keeping relationships. The weak people who tried

00:23:45.089 --> 00:23:46.369
to help him. Yeah, he's expecting a lot from

00:23:46.369 --> 00:23:48.210
people, which I think is fine. Yeah. When you're

00:23:48.210 --> 00:23:50.650
in a position like this, that's like, people

00:23:50.650 --> 00:23:53.730
are relying on you to live. It was a very serious

00:23:53.730 --> 00:23:57.069
position, right? Yeah. Lighthouse keeping. Prestigious.

00:23:57.490 --> 00:24:01.500
Right. Prestigious. Prestigious. Prestigious.

00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:08.329
Prestidigitation. Okay. So William's son, George,

00:24:08.509 --> 00:24:13.329
I think he had five kids. George was, I was going

00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:15.289
to say his oldest son, but I don't know that

00:24:15.289 --> 00:24:19.230
for sure. He was 19 in 1900 when he became the

00:24:19.230 --> 00:24:21.589
assistant keeper at this lighthouse. Wow. Okay.

00:24:21.670 --> 00:24:24.630
So eventually. Young. Yeah, assistant keepers

00:24:24.630 --> 00:24:26.990
ran out, and he was like, okay, my son's going

00:24:26.990 --> 00:24:28.509
to be my assistant. Because I think he was pretty

00:24:28.509 --> 00:24:30.569
much acting as pseudo -assistant keeper this

00:24:30.569 --> 00:24:31.869
whole time anyway. Yeah, he was working there.

00:24:31.990 --> 00:24:34.670
He did. So they worked together for about 15

00:24:34.670 --> 00:24:38.529
months, and then George fell on the landing crib

00:24:38.529 --> 00:24:42.410
in April 1901 and cut his leg down to the bone.

00:24:42.650 --> 00:24:45.950
Oh, no. Which at this time is really bad. Like

00:24:45.950 --> 00:24:49.289
1901 to get it cut that bad is like shit. Yeah,

00:24:49.289 --> 00:24:53.230
this is before World War I. Just for reference.

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Keep going. Thank you. He was taken to the hospital

00:24:57.630 --> 00:25:01.450
in Marquette, and he battled gangrene, which

00:25:01.450 --> 00:25:04.750
is, for our listeners, is when your tissue dies

00:25:04.750 --> 00:25:10.549
because of blood loss or infection. And unfortunately,

00:25:10.670 --> 00:25:15.589
he died two months later from his injuries. At

00:25:15.589 --> 00:25:19.069
like 20? Yeah. Oh, man. I know. I'm telling you.

00:25:19.109 --> 00:25:21.690
It's just like, if you have an accident, there's...

00:25:22.069 --> 00:25:23.849
Think about us now. If you cut your leg that

00:25:23.849 --> 00:25:27.410
bad, it would be like a story you tell, and that's

00:25:27.410 --> 00:25:29.930
it. Yeah. That sentence has come a long way.

00:25:29.930 --> 00:25:32.450
It's crazy. It is not a death sentence to get

00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:34.950
a bad cut. It's not a death sentence to get shot

00:25:34.950 --> 00:25:37.690
or get pneumonia. Yeah, 56 I shot nine times.

00:25:37.690 --> 00:25:41.410
He's still walking around. Tuberculosis. We're

00:25:41.410 --> 00:25:45.509
in really good shape these days. Pryor was really.

00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:49.410
shaken by the death of his son um despondent

00:25:49.410 --> 00:25:52.930
depressed yeah actually didn't write much in

00:25:52.930 --> 00:25:54.829
the logbook for the next couple weeks which is

00:25:54.829 --> 00:25:56.930
how people were like oh he's not himself he's

00:25:56.930 --> 00:26:02.410
like not the same he's being lazy lazy probably

00:26:02.410 --> 00:26:05.009
didn't know what day it was what time it was

00:26:05.009 --> 00:26:09.730
i can imagine just like grief stricken and on

00:26:09.730 --> 00:26:13.710
june 28th 1901 so Just a couple weeks after,

00:26:13.789 --> 00:26:15.849
he disappeared into the woods carrying a gun

00:26:15.849 --> 00:26:20.609
and strychnine? Strychnine? I don't know that.

00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:25.210
It's a rat poison. Fuck. Well, okay, so. What

00:26:25.210 --> 00:26:27.990
the fuck? Disappeared. A long search ensues.

00:26:28.329 --> 00:26:33.819
And they never find him. Until 17 months later.

00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.140
So, like, it was on October, I think, that his

00:26:38.140 --> 00:26:41.940
wife and four children left for Marquette to,

00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:43.950
like, live in Marquette. Because they never found

00:26:43.950 --> 00:26:47.109
him. Keeper's gone. They want to move on. It

00:26:47.109 --> 00:26:49.529
sucks for them. Move away. Yeah. So they moved

00:26:49.529 --> 00:26:51.549
back to Marquette. And then 17 months after his

00:26:51.549 --> 00:26:53.890
death, a hunter found a skeleton hanging from

00:26:53.890 --> 00:26:57.390
a tree a half mile from the lighthouse and was

00:26:57.390 --> 00:26:59.410
identified as prior by his keeper's clothing

00:26:59.410 --> 00:27:04.210
and red hair. Half a mile? Half a mile. And that's

00:27:04.210 --> 00:27:07.609
what I was saying. Is this dense? The dense trees

00:27:07.609 --> 00:27:10.849
and everything? Made it to where nobody found

00:27:10.849 --> 00:27:13.250
him, even though they did a huge search of the

00:27:13.250 --> 00:27:15.329
surrounding area. Half a mile. Half a mile is

00:27:15.329 --> 00:27:18.829
two laps. It's nothing. It's really nothing.

00:27:19.269 --> 00:27:21.950
I don't know how it's possible. Those woods,

00:27:22.269 --> 00:27:27.210
he was in there. And he hung himself? Yeah. So

00:27:27.210 --> 00:27:28.589
what was the gun and the poison for? He had a

00:27:28.589 --> 00:27:30.970
gun and rat poison. And he hung himself. And

00:27:30.970 --> 00:27:33.769
must have been rope. Yeah. And they're like,

00:27:33.910 --> 00:27:37.029
maybe he just wanted options. I don't know. Maybe

00:27:37.029 --> 00:27:39.710
he wasn't planning. Maybe he was hunting or.

00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:42.049
Hunting with rat poison? Well, I don't know.

00:27:42.390 --> 00:27:45.670
Does that make sense? Yeah, it's just like a

00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:48.369
weird... That's very sad. Weird situation, yeah.

00:27:48.970 --> 00:27:51.730
Maybe he didn't know how he was going to do it,

00:27:51.750 --> 00:27:53.829
but he just brought some options. Yeah. I don't

00:27:53.829 --> 00:27:57.369
know. Crazy move, actually. Yeah. So, he comes

00:27:57.369 --> 00:28:06.329
up later in our lighthouse. 1903, we add a second

00:28:06.329 --> 00:28:10.230
assistant keeper as the United States moved toward

00:28:10.230 --> 00:28:12.279
an eight -hour workday. So this is the first

00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.900
time I've heard about that. That's like, we started,

00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.529
what is it called? Like to, uh, standardize like

00:28:18.529 --> 00:28:21.369
the work day. Yeah. And so they're like, we're

00:28:21.369 --> 00:28:23.690
going to add a whole other position because keepers

00:28:23.690 --> 00:28:25.470
must've been working around the clock without.

00:28:25.970 --> 00:28:28.670
Do you know Dolly Parton song nine to five? Yeah.

00:28:28.809 --> 00:28:34.019
Is about an easy job. Oh, like a nine. Yeah.

00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:36.480
People say like my nine to five, nine to five

00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.960
is like, uh, I heard this recently, I guess I

00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.539
assume it's true. is you know in those days yeah

00:28:42.539 --> 00:28:45.000
before that and the inter i don't know once you

00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.740
write that song i'm sure for a while it's like

00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:49.339
oh it's an easy job yeah because you know not

00:28:49.339 --> 00:28:54.180
a 12 -hour shift not a seven -day job i i can

00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:56.579
see that if you think about keepers and there's

00:28:56.579 --> 00:28:58.819
no hours like of course they're gonna work 24

00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:02.779
7 yeah or like coal miners like yeah dang you

00:29:02.779 --> 00:29:04.839
know yeah keepers at least i get to go to the

00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.480
office and turn on the lights and the fan and

00:29:07.769 --> 00:29:10.369
Yeah. Right on paper. And then I go home. Yeah.

00:29:10.509 --> 00:29:12.690
And then I drive home. But they added a second

00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:15.289
assistant keeper. So they built a new frame dwelling

00:29:15.289 --> 00:29:18.690
near the fog signal building. Okay. Which I'd

00:29:18.690 --> 00:29:21.869
be like, excuse me. We have all this land and

00:29:21.869 --> 00:29:24.470
you had to put me close to the fog signal building.

00:29:25.819 --> 00:29:27.759
That is suspect. I don't appreciate that. That's

00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:31.759
suspect. 1911, the additional surrounding land

00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.380
was purchased and cleared. which improved the

00:29:34.380 --> 00:29:36.400
lights visibility and provided a better location

00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:40.259
for a landing slash tramway. So a little easier

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:42.700
to get to the lighthouse, a little more accessible.

00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.839
Do you know the image on screen now is what year

00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.380
this was? I don't know. Cause there's a clearing

00:29:48.380 --> 00:29:51.539
around the immediate property, but I would guess

00:29:51.539 --> 00:29:55.009
that they don't own. I don't know. It's hard

00:29:55.009 --> 00:29:59.049
to tell. I'm guessing maybe the area facing out

00:29:59.049 --> 00:30:02.960
to the water. Yeah. It was cleared. And then

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:04.940
two years later, the light was upgraded from

00:30:04.940 --> 00:30:09.000
26 ,000 to 220 ,000 candle power by switching

00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:13.619
from oil to oil vapor. Nice. Oh, yeah. In the

00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:16.359
28, 1928, the steam whistle was replaced by the

00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:18.440
type F diaphone, which is what I was going to

00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:23.029
do for our. Yeah. Our history buoy, which there's

00:30:23.029 --> 00:30:26.990
a good video online. Oh, no. What's his name?

00:30:27.450 --> 00:30:31.599
Lighthouse. Jake, maybe. Sorry, I've got to look.

00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:37.099
It's a good name. They have the last working

00:30:37.099 --> 00:30:41.680
Type F diaphone. Diaphone are really cool. Yeah,

00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.880
Lighthouse Jake on YouTube. So if anybody wants

00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.240
to go check it out, he explains how it works

00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:50.640
and demonstrates. But it's basically, you know,

00:30:50.660 --> 00:30:53.480
people think of a classic foghorn as two -tone,

00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:57.700
like high note, low note. No, two -tone is bi,

00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:05.339
B -I. That's, okay. This one, the original, was

00:31:05.339 --> 00:31:10.480
a high tone and then a grunt. It's like when

00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.359
it shuts off. It's like a lower. Yeah, the air

00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.880
slows down and makes a second sound. And so the

00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:20.859
two -tone, which everybody knows, is just they

00:31:20.859 --> 00:31:24.940
extend that grunt sound to be longer. Oh. Yeah.

00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:30.019
So that's actually a type F2T, which is F two

00:31:30.019 --> 00:31:31.700
-tone. Do you want to go ahead and make that

00:31:31.700 --> 00:31:36.099
noise for us? No. I knew you were going to ask

00:31:36.099 --> 00:31:38.880
me. We're done with our steam whistle. We have

00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.460
a diaphone. And let's see. A year after the Coast

00:31:42.460 --> 00:31:44.420
Guard took over the lighthouse, which was in

00:31:44.420 --> 00:31:48.039
1939, it was electrified and the fog signal was

00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.480
discontinued. So it wasn't running for very long.

00:31:51.059 --> 00:31:54.480
No fog signal at all. Huh? No fog signal at all.

00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.819
After, yeah, 1940. I'm kind of surprised by that.

00:31:58.930 --> 00:32:00.829
Yeah, that's a good point. Like, usually they

00:32:00.829 --> 00:32:02.009
keep them running and they're just automated.

00:32:02.309 --> 00:32:05.460
Maybe this one had trouble. Maybe they just didn't

00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:08.539
need it as much. I don't know. A year after that,

00:32:08.660 --> 00:32:10.779
the last keeper left and the assistant keeper's

00:32:10.779 --> 00:32:12.900
quarters were later rented as private residence.

00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:18.000
Sick. That would be really nice. The other spooky

00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.200
thing that happened around here, I don't know

00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.680
if you would hear of this movie, but after a

00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.920
decade, the lighthouse and property was leased

00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:31.240
to the U .S. Army in 1951 -52 for anti -aircraft

00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.900
training, which... What they did was they placed

00:32:34.900 --> 00:32:39.779
like large guns on the bluffs. And then they

00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.559
basically just camped on the grounds like the

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.700
soldiers. So nothing. It's not like the past

00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:47.259
episodes where they shoot the bomb in the lighthouse.

00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.000
It was just like using the ground. Being on a

00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.500
beachfront with a gun. Yeah. Targeting aircraft,

00:32:55.779 --> 00:32:58.039
I guess. Yeah. There's like, I don't know. They'd

00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.009
be like training. Yeah. All out. But. During

00:33:01.009 --> 00:33:02.910
this time, there was a soldier stationed there

00:33:02.910 --> 00:33:05.970
named Coleman Peterson, and he committed murder

00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:11.150
at Big Bay's Lumberjack Tavern because the barkeep

00:33:11.150 --> 00:33:14.230
allegedly raped his wife. Okay. So I'm like,

00:33:14.289 --> 00:33:18.329
you know. I didn't see that coming. I mean, I

00:33:18.329 --> 00:33:21.390
think that's the quickest way to handle that.

00:33:22.490 --> 00:33:27.349
What is it? Big Bay's Lumberjack Tavern. Is it

00:33:27.349 --> 00:33:29.869
still there by chance? Because I would love some

00:33:29.869 --> 00:33:34.210
cupware, some glassware. Big Bay's Lumberjack

00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:36.089
Tavern. How did he murder him? Yes, it is still

00:33:36.089 --> 00:33:39.650
there. I think it was just with a gun. Dude,

00:33:39.670 --> 00:33:42.650
imagine I'm holding up a beer glass right now.

00:33:43.009 --> 00:33:46.390
It says 49th State Brewing. It's got a bear running.

00:33:46.690 --> 00:33:51.619
We got this when we visited Alaska. Now, Big

00:33:51.619 --> 00:33:57.470
Bay Lumberjack Tavern with a pistol, like a revolver

00:33:57.470 --> 00:34:02.700
in hand. Let's see. Honestly, this is going to

00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:07.799
have some kind of cachet because, one, there

00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.199
was this whole very well -publicized trial afterwards

00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:13.820
and he was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

00:34:14.500 --> 00:34:17.800
And the crime later inspired the novel and film

00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.800
Anatomy of a Murder. Do you know it? No. Okay,

00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:22.900
I've heard of it, but I've never seen it. And

00:34:22.900 --> 00:34:26.000
the book, it was a book originally, and I think

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.280
it was written by the lawyer who represented...

00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.280
and he wrote under a pen name something else

00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.239
and just like told the story of what happened.

00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:38.699
I like that. They made it into a movie. I hope

00:34:38.699 --> 00:34:42.519
the movie's good. Yeah, I think it's like a classic.

00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:45.760
Let me look at, hold on. Okay. Quick side Google.

00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:48.239
But I will say that I'm hoping Lumberjack Tavern

00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:51.809
has some kind of publicity. Oh, okay, wait. I

00:34:51.809 --> 00:34:55.030
pulled up Lumberjack Tavern and the front plaque

00:34:55.030 --> 00:35:00.670
says murder free since 1952. Okay. All right.

00:35:00.690 --> 00:35:07.469
This is fast. 1959. The film came out. What?

00:35:07.590 --> 00:35:10.380
That's what I'm saying. It's on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.480
Crime slash thriller. Two hours and 40 minutes.

00:35:13.739 --> 00:35:18.400
Oh my gosh. IMDB rates it 8 out of 10. No way.

00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:20.860
We have to watch it. Okay. We have to watch it.

00:35:22.699 --> 00:35:27.889
That's crazy. That's crazy. 1959. Wait. Came

00:35:27.889 --> 00:35:31.250
out in 1959. 8 .0 out of 10. And it was two hours

00:35:31.250 --> 00:35:34.670
and 40 minutes. An upstate. Yeah, I know. It's

00:35:34.670 --> 00:35:37.010
black and white. Oh. An upstate Michigan lawyer

00:35:37.010 --> 00:35:39.570
defends a soldier who claims he killed an innkeeper

00:35:39.570 --> 00:35:42.429
due to temporary insanity after the victim raped

00:35:42.429 --> 00:35:44.989
his wife. Okay. What is the truth and will he

00:35:44.989 --> 00:35:48.369
win his case? Yes. Also, they made this fast.

00:35:48.550 --> 00:35:49.949
This is like Dune 3 coming out. That's insane.

00:35:50.530 --> 00:35:53.070
He must have written it the second it happened.

00:35:53.090 --> 00:35:55.940
I'm glad we looked this up. Yeah. We have to

00:35:55.940 --> 00:35:56.960
add it to our list. Could have been not good.

00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:58.920
Absolutely. Maybe it could be a Halloween. I

00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.300
don't think he comes up again in the spooky stories,

00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.940
but I don't know. It's just a thing that happens.

00:36:03.980 --> 00:36:07.320
When we go eventually on our Lake Superior, maybe

00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:08.840
it's going to have to be a couple of them, but

00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.300
our Lake Superior road trip, we have to go to

00:36:11.300 --> 00:36:13.800
the bar. I think so, too. Have to. It's like

00:36:14.469 --> 00:36:19.219
Salty Dog. Yeah, the Salty Dog Saloon with the

00:36:19.219 --> 00:36:24.230
Alaskan duck fart. It's essential. Disgusting.

00:36:24.230 --> 00:36:27.989
If anyone wants... Look up the Salty Dog Saloon

00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:31.550
episode. It's one of my favorites. Alaska. Homer,

00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:34.949
Alaska. Ew, duck fart is so gross. It's because

00:36:34.949 --> 00:36:37.389
of how it looks. It's delicious though. Just

00:36:37.389 --> 00:36:41.179
like duck poop. We also, I'm just plug, plug,

00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.860
plugging us. We explored the Alaskan duck fart

00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:47.840
here on the show live with Nathan and Monica

00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.320
who introduced us. I don't know if we, did we

00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.019
post that? Yeah. I think so. I think it's like

00:36:54.019 --> 00:36:57.320
four hours. We did Lighthouse Cocktail Hour,

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.280
where we had four plus cocktails, all with Lighthouse

00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.780
history, your names, and we talked about them

00:37:03.780 --> 00:37:06.079
and such. Yeah, I was really drunk at the end

00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:07.820
of that. We couldn't go to dinner. We were going

00:37:07.820 --> 00:37:09.340
to go to dinner after, and we were like, I guess

00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:12.960
we have to order food. That was so funny. What

00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.000
were we thinking? Of course. Well, we had four

00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:19.739
drinks and then wine. Some more wine, yeah. Crazy.

00:37:20.219 --> 00:37:21.739
Yeah, it was crazy. Asked if we were going to

00:37:21.739 --> 00:37:25.369
go to dinner after that. Yeah, that was the only

00:37:25.369 --> 00:37:27.050
one we've done. I would like to do another one,

00:37:27.110 --> 00:37:29.730
but we can't do five drinks. No way. It's too

00:37:29.730 --> 00:37:31.670
many. We're too old for that now. It's a door

00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:36.489
dash. Okay, moving on. We're wrapping up towards

00:37:36.489 --> 00:37:40.150
the end of The Lighthouse. Okay. 1961, it was

00:37:40.150 --> 00:37:45.409
purchased with The Lighthouse and 33 Acres, and

00:37:45.409 --> 00:37:48.710
that was sold to Chicago plastic surgeon Dr.

00:37:48.969 --> 00:37:54.320
John Pick for $40 ,000. So very cheap. Very cheap.

00:37:54.539 --> 00:37:56.780
Same year our house was built. All right. Oh

00:37:56.780 --> 00:37:58.980
man, you're so right. Yeah. What do you think

00:37:58.980 --> 00:38:02.150
our house was sold for at that time? 20 grand.

00:38:02.409 --> 00:38:08.409
Our house sold for half the price it is now in

00:38:08.409 --> 00:38:12.690
2012. Yeah. So, you know, we're the fools. That

00:38:12.690 --> 00:38:15.309
was 14 years. So maybe it was like five cents

00:38:15.309 --> 00:38:17.409
when they built it. We're not fools. Okay. We're

00:38:17.409 --> 00:38:22.329
just, we're slave to the markets of the, of the

00:38:22.329 --> 00:38:24.750
years. Guys, we didn't know we were going to

00:38:24.750 --> 00:38:27.389
have a fixer -upper. No, we didn't sign up for

00:38:27.389 --> 00:38:31.079
a fixer -upper. Whatever. On purpose. So at this

00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.380
point, much of the roof was missing. It had broken

00:38:33.380 --> 00:38:38.039
windows, deteriorated plaster, and heavily painted

00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.820
woodwork and floors. So they kind of just slapped

00:38:40.820 --> 00:38:45.070
stuff on over the years. So Pick spent most of

00:38:45.070 --> 00:38:48.429
his 17 years at the property restoring it. He

00:38:48.429 --> 00:38:51.300
added plumbing, electricity. Heating, repaired

00:38:51.300 --> 00:38:53.619
windows, replastered walls, added a fireplace.

00:38:54.219 --> 00:38:56.880
Nice. I like this guy. And combined the duplex

00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:00.260
into one humongous residence. I would love to

00:39:00.260 --> 00:39:03.039
see that house. Love it. He filled the lighthouse

00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.820
with antiques from his travels, including a ship's

00:39:05.820 --> 00:39:08.579
wheel from the Normandy. Really awesome. Wait,

00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:12.519
why do we know the Normandy? We do. We do. Should

00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:18.110
I Google it? Here, I'll do it. Normandy ship.

00:39:19.010 --> 00:39:22.789
A revolutionary French luxury ocean liner. Did

00:39:22.789 --> 00:39:25.150
they turn this into a light ship or something?

00:39:25.389 --> 00:39:30.340
Because sometimes they did that, you know? Seized

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:33.239
by the U .S. Navy in 1942 and renamed the USS

00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.239
Lafayette. Yeah, later scrapped in 1946. So that's

00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.780
an awesome ship wheel to have. Super cool. Very

00:39:39.780 --> 00:39:43.380
cool. Super cool. Pick sold the property to Dan

00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:48.619
Hitchens in 1979 in his 80s. And at this point

00:39:48.619 --> 00:39:56.730
he was like, what the fuck? What did you just

00:39:56.730 --> 00:40:00.150
spit out? Ice. Oh, okay, okay. It just was like

00:40:00.150 --> 00:40:02.289
a white lump. I was like, ew, and it thunked

00:40:02.289 --> 00:40:08.369
into the thing. Vince has lots of whipped cream

00:40:08.369 --> 00:40:11.380
and stuff on his mustache. Yeah. We're having

00:40:11.380 --> 00:40:15.780
some Dutch Bros delicious, basically milkshakes.

00:40:15.900 --> 00:40:18.539
Coffee milkshakes. Oh, yeah. Not sponsored. Really

00:40:18.539 --> 00:40:21.280
good. Not yet. So anyway, he was in poor health

00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.849
and sold the lighthouse to Dan. And this began.

00:40:25.579 --> 00:40:28.829
This lighthouse's era as a bed and breakfast.

00:40:29.130 --> 00:40:32.809
So Dan added bathrooms to most of the seven bedrooms.

00:40:33.309 --> 00:40:35.590
Gosh, this place must have been huge. I know.

00:40:36.230 --> 00:40:38.670
And he operated it as a corporate conference

00:40:38.670 --> 00:40:42.750
slash retreat center. Sick. Awesome. In 84, Hitchens

00:40:42.750 --> 00:40:44.670
sold the property to a corporation that included

00:40:44.670 --> 00:40:49.440
a man named Norman Buck Gottschall. Okay. In

00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.699
1986, Gottschall opened the lighthouse as a bed

00:40:53.699 --> 00:40:57.269
and breakfast. Or modern photo. Wow, it got prettier.

00:40:57.610 --> 00:41:00.170
It's so red, right? And so I thought it was painted

00:41:00.170 --> 00:41:01.969
all this time. And that's just the color of the

00:41:01.969 --> 00:41:04.570
bricks. Really, really red. There are pictures

00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:07.130
that make it even more red looking than that.

00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:09.130
But it's really nice. We've also had lots of

00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:11.750
trees fill in from that cleared area we saw earlier.

00:41:12.050 --> 00:41:14.750
I know. I do like it. Actually, lots of trees

00:41:14.750 --> 00:41:17.949
filled in all over. But it's haunted. But it

00:41:17.949 --> 00:41:21.090
is haunted. Walking around those woods in the

00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:24.150
dark. By yourself? Ew, no chance. You couldn't

00:41:24.150 --> 00:41:27.380
pay me. He restored the fog signal building and

00:41:27.380 --> 00:41:31.380
located the original Fresnel lens at the Park

00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:34.880
Place Hotel in Traverse City and returned to

00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:36.739
the lighthouse. So now it's still there. But

00:41:36.739 --> 00:41:40.300
why? This is like when we were talking about

00:41:40.300 --> 00:41:43.360
that people have lenses in their living rooms.

00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.079
Lenses and dinosaurs. Why did a hotel have this

00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.239
Fresnel lens? Because it was cool. Get your filthy

00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:52.500
paws off of my lens. They probably... liked it

00:41:52.500 --> 00:41:55.179
and they probably took care of it get out of

00:41:55.179 --> 00:41:59.420
your sinking hotel by 1991 the owners had acquired

00:41:59.420 --> 00:42:03.440
nearly 100 surrounding acres so we're like really

00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:07.039
expanding this area yeah they established hiking

00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.019
trails and a landing strip was cleared for gotchell's

00:42:10.019 --> 00:42:13.760
1957 tri -pacer sick yeah so i don't know what

00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.699
that is but it sounds sick it's one of those

00:42:15.699 --> 00:42:19.539
planes it's like a four -seater plane The propeller.

00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.559
Yeah. Like out of Africa. Exactly. Exactly. During

00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:27.159
these years, the first ghost stories were leaked

00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.159
to the media by two people who stayed at the

00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.900
bed and breakfast who said that they saw a spirit

00:42:32.900 --> 00:42:35.360
walking around the lighthouse in a U .S. life

00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:41.380
-saving service uniform. That's not right. So

00:42:41.380 --> 00:42:42.880
maybe it's misreported. How do they even know?

00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.820
Well, they probably described it and they were

00:42:45.820 --> 00:42:48.190
like, oh, that's... But... It should be pretty

00:42:48.190 --> 00:42:50.610
close to like Keeper's uniform too. Sure. Maybe

00:42:50.610 --> 00:42:52.769
they're just, people are misinformed and just

00:42:52.769 --> 00:42:54.809
wrote whatever. Yeah. I mean, I would, I'd be,

00:42:54.849 --> 00:42:57.510
I'd freak out. I would too. You could just say

00:42:57.510 --> 00:42:59.070
it was a uniform. I mean, it could have been

00:42:59.070 --> 00:43:01.130
a janitor, but it's still like creepy. There's

00:43:01.130 --> 00:43:03.409
something about, something about it. He could

00:43:03.409 --> 00:43:05.510
have been wearing a t -shirt and shorts and I'd

00:43:05.510 --> 00:43:13.179
be like. These people also reported quick banging

00:43:13.179 --> 00:43:15.980
sounds. Hate that. Running water in the basement

00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:19.559
shower. Hate that even more. What? There was

00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:21.460
not supposed to be any plumbing here. The problem

00:43:21.460 --> 00:43:24.239
is if you say basement before anything, I'm thinking

00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:29.079
dark, creepy, misused, rusted. Basement shower.

00:43:29.579 --> 00:43:31.280
Like it should not be running and it's running.

00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:32.980
And maybe that's true, but I don't know what

00:43:32.980 --> 00:43:35.659
their basement looks like. It would be scary.

00:43:36.019 --> 00:43:38.559
I don't know. And also light taps on their body

00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.239
while they're sleeping. Do not touch me. Don't

00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:44.380
touch me. Don't like that. He's like, get out

00:43:44.380 --> 00:43:47.510
of bed. You've got to clean. Get up, you lazy

00:43:47.510 --> 00:43:50.829
assistants. Get up, Jesse. We have to cook. And

00:43:50.829 --> 00:43:53.190
there's more than one story that talks about

00:43:53.190 --> 00:43:56.389
a tall, red -headed man wearing a late 1800s

00:43:56.389 --> 00:43:58.150
uniform walking the grounds around the lighthouse.

00:43:59.369 --> 00:44:01.969
They talk about doors and windows opening and

00:44:01.969 --> 00:44:04.969
closing on their own, lights turning on and off

00:44:04.969 --> 00:44:07.630
by themselves, and disembodied footsteps making

00:44:07.630 --> 00:44:10.369
their way across floors. There's something about

00:44:10.369 --> 00:44:13.530
disembodied footsteps as a set of words that...

00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:18.650
Is unnecessarily creepy. I was like disembodied.

00:44:18.650 --> 00:44:19.550
You could have just said footsteps. No, that

00:44:19.550 --> 00:44:21.849
makes sense. No, it makes sense. Footsteps with

00:44:21.849 --> 00:44:27.570
nobody. With nobody. Nobody. One overnight guest

00:44:27.570 --> 00:44:31.210
reported seeing the reflection of a man wearing

00:44:31.210 --> 00:44:33.369
a keeper's hat standing behind her in the mirror.

00:44:34.050 --> 00:44:36.409
That's a horror film. That's what they make horror

00:44:36.409 --> 00:44:39.210
films out of. On the nose. And other guests talk

00:44:39.210 --> 00:44:40.929
about waking up in the middle of the night and

00:44:40.929 --> 00:44:43.070
a man standing at the foot of the bed. That's

00:44:43.070 --> 00:44:46.969
also. Horror stories. That's like... Dang. The

00:44:46.969 --> 00:44:49.590
mirror one is where they give you the jump scare

00:44:49.590 --> 00:44:52.750
in a horror movie. Yeah, they're waking up. Oh,

00:44:52.909 --> 00:44:59.630
no. I got goosebumps. Just prior hanging out.

00:44:59.730 --> 00:45:01.789
He's like, what are all these people doing? Get

00:45:01.789 --> 00:45:04.489
to work. This is my half. We've never had such

00:45:04.489 --> 00:45:07.869
a big staff with such lazy habits. Why is everybody

00:45:07.869 --> 00:45:11.610
always sleeping? 1992, preservationist John Gill,

00:45:11.769 --> 00:45:14.010
Linda Gamble, and Jeff Gamble purchased the lighthouse

00:45:14.010 --> 00:45:18.019
for $500 ,000. After they had stayed at the lighthouse

00:45:18.019 --> 00:45:21.360
and then learned that the lighthouse was for

00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:26.139
sale and the most promising prospective buyer

00:45:26.139 --> 00:45:29.960
was going to raise everything and build condominiums.

00:45:30.219 --> 00:45:34.619
No. I know. I was like, good Lord. So they bought

00:45:34.619 --> 00:45:39.440
it, kept operating it as an inn. And then in

00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:43.500
2011, they placed it on the market for $1 .275

00:45:43.500 --> 00:45:46.949
million. What? It doesn't seem like a lot. Huh?

00:45:47.170 --> 00:45:50.130
It does not seem like a lot. In 2011? You said

00:45:50.130 --> 00:45:53.980
100 acres? I think, yeah, but then, okay, so

00:45:53.980 --> 00:45:56.039
then the other thing is that the surrounding

00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.699
land was divided into 12 parcels and offered

00:45:58.699 --> 00:46:02.579
as site condominium. Real estate kills me, man.

00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:04.780
I know, but these are the people who bought it

00:46:04.780 --> 00:46:07.239
so that condos wouldn't be built. So, like, why

00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.820
are they selling off the land in parcels? They

00:46:09.820 --> 00:46:13.300
wanted to keep the lighthouse, but couldn't afford

00:46:13.300 --> 00:46:15.719
otherwise all the land. Well, they were selling

00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.269
everything. I don't know what to say. I don't

00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:24.809
either. I know what I'd like to say. The National

00:46:24.809 --> 00:46:27.309
Register Coordinator for the Michigan State Historic

00:46:27.309 --> 00:46:30.030
Preservation Office weighed in on the controversy

00:46:30.030 --> 00:46:34.059
because there was some backlash and wrote, quote,

00:46:34.139 --> 00:46:36.380
I think it most unfortunate that the light station's

00:46:36.380 --> 00:46:38.179
current owners seem to be more interested in

00:46:38.179 --> 00:46:39.940
making a profit than in providing appropriate

00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:42.980
stewardship for a unique historic property. Savage.

00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.260
Blazing review. Scathing. Yeah. And I did not

00:46:47.260 --> 00:46:50.079
see an update on what happened after this. Was

00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:54.960
it 2011? Yeah. And that's 25, 15 years ago. Excuse

00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.539
me. That's almost twice today. Link one more

00:46:57.539 --> 00:47:02.000
time. 25. But looking at this photo and current

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.579
photos, it doesn't seem to be built out into

00:47:04.579 --> 00:47:08.639
condos. Okay. Or maybe there are more. You didn't

00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.159
find anything else online? No. Can you visit?

00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:12.880
Do you know any of that? Yeah. Let me finish

00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:14.519
talking. I thought you were done. I'm sorry.

00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:18.659
Lots of questions here. It wasn't until 2018

00:47:18.659 --> 00:47:22.679
that the lighthouse was purchased by Nick Korstad.

00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:25.940
Sorry for all the pronunciations. You know what?

00:47:25.980 --> 00:47:27.619
It's everyone else's fault for having hard last

00:47:27.619 --> 00:47:31.699
names. Korstad, who was an experienced lighthouse

00:47:31.699 --> 00:47:35.320
owner and restorer and former owner of the Borden

00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.480
Flats Lighthouse. Do you remember that one? No.

00:47:37.860 --> 00:47:40.380
I'm pretty sure that this lighthouse, they have...

00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:45.280
It's kind of like Alcatraz, where it's in the

00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.469
middle of... It's like right next to a bridge

00:47:47.469 --> 00:47:50.849
and on either side is a city. Yeah. But it's

00:47:50.849 --> 00:47:54.289
like on a crib or like, or in Lake Superior?

00:47:54.449 --> 00:47:58.130
I don't remember. Okay. But I'm pretty sure that

00:47:58.130 --> 00:48:00.889
this is one of the lighthouses that you can bid

00:48:00.889 --> 00:48:04.769
to have a night stay in. Oh, through the USLHS?

00:48:04.889 --> 00:48:08.590
Yes. Okay. So he owned that originally. So then

00:48:08.590 --> 00:48:12.679
he bought this lighthouse in 2018. and he continues

00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.400
to run it as a private bed and breakfast. The

00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.219
grounds are open to the public, and they have

00:48:17.219 --> 00:48:20.000
guided tours available. It's still operating

00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.500
for the U .S. Coast Guard. Nice. Yeah, they still

00:48:23.500 --> 00:48:25.719
operate. There's a beacon up there. Yeah. It's

00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.460
not the lens, which is interesting because the

00:48:29.460 --> 00:48:33.500
USLHS has that the Fresnel lens is still operating.

00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:35.900
The Fresnel lens is on the property, but it's

00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:39.780
not operating the light. Where is it? Oh, I think

00:48:39.780 --> 00:48:43.010
it's in. Like in the. The house? Inside. Yeah.

00:48:43.090 --> 00:48:44.530
Inside the house somewhere. It's hard to have

00:48:44.530 --> 00:48:47.670
a Fresnel lens anywhere. Isn't it noise? It's

00:48:47.670 --> 00:48:49.269
really pretty. So now we're looking at a photo

00:48:49.269 --> 00:48:52.309
of the green cast iron stand and the Fresnel

00:48:52.309 --> 00:48:55.449
lens. Is this a second order? Third order. Third

00:48:55.449 --> 00:48:59.900
order. Nice. I do like it. No bullseyes. It's

00:48:59.900 --> 00:49:02.659
beautiful. Yeah. So now I'm going to like quickly

00:49:02.659 --> 00:49:05.679
show the website. Okay. Because it's really nice.

00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.880
And I know you love a good website. I do. We're

00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.039
going to Big Boy Point Lighthouse. Did you say

00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:14.800
big boy? No. Maybe I did. Big boy. Big boy point.

00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:18.059
Big boy. But just wanted to scroll. They've got

00:49:18.059 --> 00:49:21.380
a good picture of the lighthouse. Talks a little

00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:25.980
bit about the history. Here's the lens they have

00:49:25.980 --> 00:49:28.840
now. Superior Spa Services. Two -sided, whatever

00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.039
it's called. I can't remember now. Two -sided

00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:38.789
rotating lens. Yeah, spa services. Pizza. Let's

00:49:38.789 --> 00:49:42.940
look at the accommodation. Such a fatty pizza.

00:49:43.460 --> 00:49:45.800
Okay, so we have a bunch of different rooms named

00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.920
after keepers. I'm pretty sure they all have

00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.400
bathrooms. And yeah, it's just varying levels

00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.639
of space, costs. If you're more budget friendly,

00:49:54.860 --> 00:49:59.780
their lowest per night is $289. And the most

00:49:59.780 --> 00:50:03.480
expensive is $425. But it has the fireplace in

00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:07.179
it that he put in. That's really nice. all over

00:50:07.179 --> 00:50:10.079
that. This is also a lighthouse that is in the

00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:13.320
auction for the USLHS every year. They must donate

00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.739
that time. That's awesome. Donated a couple stays.

00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.039
So yeah, there's all kinds of fun stuff. That

00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:20.239
sounds like fun. It's a great website. I love

00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:25.550
their logo. It's clean and nice. Yeah, it looks

00:50:25.550 --> 00:50:28.840
like a great place to visit. How, do you know

00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.320
what it's like to access this today? Access?

00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:35.139
Like a paved road, you know, X number of miles

00:50:35.139 --> 00:50:38.570
from somewhere. It's probably a getting here

00:50:38.570 --> 00:50:41.250
type of thing. It doesn't look paved. Yeah, it

00:50:41.250 --> 00:50:43.489
could just be the driveway. Gravel, but yeah,

00:50:44.630 --> 00:50:46.730
I don't know how close we are to, I'm pretty

00:50:46.730 --> 00:50:48.769
sure there's a highway not too far off. I don't

00:50:48.769 --> 00:50:50.429
think it's hard to get to. Yeah, I'd imagine

00:50:50.429 --> 00:50:53.469
everything's built out now. Yeah. 30 miles was

00:50:53.469 --> 00:50:56.530
the original distance from Marquette. From Marquette.

00:50:56.610 --> 00:51:00.710
Yeah, so it can't be bad. Nice. Too bad. Beautiful.

00:51:00.710 --> 00:51:04.349
Located 25 miles north of Marquette and nestled.

00:51:04.829 --> 00:51:08.480
On the cliffs of Lake Superior. Really pretty.

00:51:08.699 --> 00:51:12.380
No kids allowed. Gotta keep the place in order.

00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:16.039
Yeah, there's too much stuff. I mean, this area

00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:19.079
is so pretty. There's so many lighthouses. And

00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.280
Lake Superior is a very scary place. Yeah, I

00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.280
wouldn't want to be liable for kids running around

00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:28.019
that close to the edge of the bluffs. Yep. So

00:51:28.179 --> 00:51:31.360
yeah, we had some spooky elements. And this is

00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.599
a great lighthouse. Very appealing. Very appealing.

00:51:35.449 --> 00:51:37.110
And you can stay here. And I think that's the

00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:38.849
best part is that you can just go on the website

00:51:38.849 --> 00:51:42.679
and book to stay in a lighthouse. True. So fun.

00:51:43.579 --> 00:51:46.900
I wish someday we will do that. Someday. That

00:51:46.900 --> 00:51:50.480
was part of my pitch for our stay. Yeah. All

00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.039
right. That's the end of my episode. All right.

00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.280
Good job. I loved it. Not too much spooky, but

00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.179
a little spooky. Just had to get a little something.

00:51:57.300 --> 00:52:01.639
I mean, that's, I'm scared. Shivering in my boots.

00:52:01.659 --> 00:52:05.969
Hey, do you want to go to this Airbnb? It's very

00:52:05.969 --> 00:52:10.000
haunted. Oh. I always think that I want to experience

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.619
something paranormal, but I'm not sure that I

00:52:12.619 --> 00:52:14.900
do. Did you have a, was there a paranormal thing

00:52:14.900 --> 00:52:18.579
you did? Yeah, in my bachelorette party, which

00:52:18.579 --> 00:52:22.489
I think we may have experienced something, but

00:52:22.489 --> 00:52:26.079
it was Carly and I were certain there was somebody

00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:30.219
on the other side of like, I don't know. It was

00:52:30.219 --> 00:52:32.980
like this area where there was like a chair in

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:35.679
this very tight like back corner. And we went

00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.820
around thinking that there was someone there

00:52:37.820 --> 00:52:40.519
for certain. And then there was nobody there.

00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.159
And it was like actually really scary. You were

00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:46.679
actually surprised. We were so certain. I can't

00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:48.239
remember if it was like we were hearing noises

00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.840
or talking. You know, we were in a big group.

00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.579
So we were like, oh, what's around here that

00:52:52.579 --> 00:52:54.619
someone's looking at? And there was no one there.

00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:59.039
And it was just like, oh, oh, my God. And it's

00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:00.519
funny because we both experienced it. Otherwise,

00:53:00.619 --> 00:53:01.940
I would just be like, oh, I'm hearing things.

00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:08.010
St. Augustine? Yes. Florida? St. Augustine. Yeah,

00:53:08.090 --> 00:53:11.989
we went to their After Dark Ghost Tour. Cool.

00:53:12.170 --> 00:53:14.750
But I had one of those readers and nothing ever

00:53:14.750 --> 00:53:17.429
spiked. Well, happy Halloween, everyone. Thanks.

00:53:17.429 --> 00:53:19.670
Happy Halloween. Spooky season. Hope everyone

00:53:19.670 --> 00:53:23.070
has a fun and safe time trick -or -treating and

00:53:23.070 --> 00:53:24.690
having Halloween parties because I know that

00:53:24.690 --> 00:53:28.369
we will. Uh, thanks for joining to listen and

00:53:28.369 --> 00:53:31.289
check out our YouTube. You can go to our website

00:53:31.289 --> 00:53:34.429
and listen to all of our episodes there, figure

00:53:34.429 --> 00:53:37.530
out where to listen to our episodes. And I also

00:53:37.530 --> 00:53:40.210
just updated our episode map. So we are fully

00:53:40.210 --> 00:53:42.170
up to date on that. You can see which lighthouses

00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:46.269
we've covered on a map. Good job. Yeah. And we'll

00:53:46.269 --> 00:53:49.510
catch you guys next time on the lighthouse.