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March 18, 2024

Episode 48 - Roanoke Marshes Lighthouse

Episode 48 - Roanoke Marshes Lighthouse
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The Lighthouse Lowdown

This is the first lighthouse that we have covered that is a replica of a lost original - Roanoke Marshes Lighthouse was haphazardly dumped into the Croatan Sound after being decommissioned in 1955, but the town of Manteo brought it back to life again in 2004!

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References:

  1. USLHS Membership Levels
  2. Roanoke Marshes Lighthouse | Lighthouse Friends
  3. Roanoke Marshes Light Lists | USLHS
  4. Charles W. Pugh | USLHS
Transcript
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Are we good? Yep. Okay. Hi everyone. I'm Emily and I'm Vince and this is the lighthouse lowdown

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That was good dance moves over here, that's right, and that's why we don't have video

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So I did manage to do a history buoy today. Nice. It's the one i've been promising. So i'm just delivering on all aspects

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let's hear it so

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We'll just go right in I guess i'm going to cover the us LHS membership tiers. What's the us LHS?

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Go to our podcast episode number

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Forty something? Oh, that's too much

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Forty something

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United States Lighthouse Society. Yeah. So please continue. Thank you

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Basically, you can have a membership with the us LHS and the money goes towards

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all kinds of lighthouse fun stuff like restorations and grants and like tours and stuff and um

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And you get some stuff out of it too. You get access to a lot of us LHS like um,

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Digital archives and there's a bunch of cool stuff, but i'll say it all nice

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All lighthouse related all the

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Yeah, for sure

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So I just pulled up the memberships. There's two digital memberships and four physical memberships

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Thank you

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So when you start a membership it runs from 12 months from whenever you start so that's nice

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Uh, all membership levels include the passport club enrollment, which

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Vince and I talked about in the United States Lighthouse Society episode. Yep. It's a good one. It's a lot of fun stuff

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It's stamped stuff and then you also get access to the keeper's log journal and the digital research catalog

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Through all memberships all memberships. Yeah, so to sign up you can go to the membership tab on us

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Lhs.org and you can also print out a membership form and mail it if that's easier for you

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but uh, you can also fill out online and then

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With a lot of the tiers you get stuff for signing up and they'll send it to you in the mail just like as normal

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So yeah, so here are the tiers. We got two digital first one's passport level

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It's 25 per year. You get a passport book to collect all your stamps in

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And you also get access to various stamps like holiday stamps the yearly stamps and half off collectible stamps

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Which I haven't done yet, but I made it this year

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You also get the stamp flashes newsletter for any stamp related news

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Which is basically like if they change the location of where you get the stamp for a lighthouse then they'll put it in a newsletter

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Oh cool and update their website and this is a new thing

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I'm not sure if you know about this, but you signed up more recently than I have so you might have noticed it

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But uh, it's called the lighthouse enthusiast community

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It's like a uh, I want to i'm not trying to insult it. It's like a chat social

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Kind of social forum

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So it's like a platform where you can plan your trips keep track of lighthouse visits and compare your totals photos and notes with other

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Participants it's like the original facebook wall

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Yeah, but it's like you keep track of all the lighthouses you've been to and then

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So like you can say okay. I went to lighthouses in maryland and you click maryland click the lighthouse

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And then you can add photos what dates you were there how many times you've been like stuff like that and uh, it's super cool. So

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Unfortunately, they don't have all the lighthouses. You know, it's like it's only if they're basically if there's a stamp for it

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Then there is probably on this list. Yeah

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So like the Milliken State Park one in Detroit that one is not on uh, this list

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This list so I don't get to count that I went to Milliken State Park

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And now i'm like, oh bummer or like nomizaki in japan. Of course, it's not gonna be on there

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But they do have some international lights like British Columbia the uk there's some you know, just like a couple select

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Lighthouses when I input what lighthouses I had been to

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I'm ranked

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485th

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That's pretty good

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That's pretty good, but that's the people who participate in the community. So those are pretty hefty

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I mean, I I filled out seven lighthouses on there. So that's pretty it's a pretty hefty amount of people on there

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You may have to show me because like so when I signed up

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I know we got more to say but when I signed up there was um

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There's so much. Yeah, because I signed up for the we're gonna get to the keeper membership. So I I was able to encompass

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All of those kind of hatching

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memberships

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There's a lot I was excited the most about my patch

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Well, I didn't even know about this until I started doing this history building and I was like what the heck is this?

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And it's pretty new it sounds like um, I don't know at least new to you new to me. I just found out about it

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It's cool. It's under the resources tab on uslhs.org is for people who want to check it out

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Um, and you have to like create a password and a login in order to get in but other than that there's uh,

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Nothing else to do. Cool

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Pretty neat and so our second digital membership is the ekeeper level

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$35 per year. It has all the passport perks plus access to a bulletin newsletter and

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10% off uslhs merch nice. It's pretty good. Their merch is pretty cool, too

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I do have a look at that. I do like it. It's nice and simple. It's not like

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Like, you know that shirt that I wore whenever we went to go visit. Um, cura tuc beach lighthouse. Yeah

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I just really like lighthouses. Okay, like

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it's the dumbest shirt ever and

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It's easy for places that are so gung-ho on one subject like lighthouses to have merchandise

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That's like really loud and like tacky and stuff, but these are like really nice

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Like you actually want to wear it. It's just like the logo. It's very tasteful. You bought the hat as well

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Should we have gotten a discount?

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Yeah, but I we didn't enter it. No, and we're supporting lighthouses. I just didn't know about it

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So just carried on the first physical level

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Is the keeper level which vince here has represent is keeper level. It's 50 dollars per year

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Uh, you got all the perks of the digital tiers plus you receive the keepers log journal and the lighthouse fund for kids quarterly publications

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You also get a keeper embroidered patch. So every time you sign up for like one of the

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physical

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Um tears then you get a patch that matches like if you're looking at our youtube. It's what's on the screen

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Super cool. Yeah, you also get a us lhs membership card upon request. So you have to ask for it when I signed up

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I guess maybe two years ago. Yeah, I just got one in the mail. So it must have just made it to where now you have to ask for one

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But it's just kind of cute. I keep it in my wallet just for funsies. Nice. That's awesome

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Oh, I am a beacon level beacon level is seventy five dollars per year

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It's all the digital tier perks plus a beacon level patch and a us lhs lapel pin

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That is a really cool patch. It's the coolest pack. My favorite is the prison patch. So the prisons

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150 dollars a month. Uh, so wow

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We're going way up on cost no

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Per year 150 for a year

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So beacon level perks you also get a prism patch and a us lhs holiday ornament, which they custom design each year

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So it's different every year. That's pretty cool

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The last level is the illumination membership. It's 250 dollars for the year

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It has all prism level perks a illumination patch. You receive a us lhs hat and shirt

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I think on an annual basis. Yeah

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Yeah, and then you also get a hundred dollars off any us lhs lighthouse tour. Super cool

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Yeah, they've done a great job with this program. They have and it's so much fun

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Like I I love to be a part of it. I have questions now a good time

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Sure, and you may not remember but okay, so i'm a keeper level membership

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Um, that's what I felt I could I could pay right now year to year and keep it going which I would like to do

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Um rather than sign up and then you know, let it lapse

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so um

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You mentioned starting with the passport membership

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The passport program which we've talked about before. Yeah, I have not received my passport

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Is that in error or do I need to go request it from somewhere? Do you know that?

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That's interesting. I'm trying to remember how I ended up with my passport because I don't think when I signed up the first time

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That I got the passport in the mail. I must admit I didn't do all the work

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I should have done in reading and yeah

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I'm trying to remember I was a little bit overwhelmed when I signed up with all the things that I got

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Yeah, which is great. I remember I got a letter. That was nice. I got my patch

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um, but

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I gotta look into my passport because i'd like it before we go on our

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Trips definitely. Yeah. Well cool. So yeah, that's the membership tiers. Um, it's pretty rewarding especially for people like us who

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Use their digital archives a lot. So

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It makes sense for us to give back to the people that are oh, yeah, they do a fantastic job, right?

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The uh, the big one the illumination membership is tempting to me because I think that's the coolest patch

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Yeah, is it the colors? I like the color

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I mean, I like the yellow and blue of both keeper and beacon as well. Yeah. Well and ekeeper

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Illumination. Oh, that's like the bold text and the frontal lens. I don't know

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It's cool for now. Gosh, I'm still doing that. I wonder why you're looking at me like that

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I started second guessing myself and I was like, it's gotta be front now folks

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But it's a cool patch and

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I really wanted a hat and shirt. Yeah. Now do I need a new one every year? Of course, absolutely

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I mean say you can't say no, it's so yeah for the moment. I haven't I haven't swung for the the price yet

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Right, but I think it's it's great that it's out there. There's probably a lot of people who can do that

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And I think that's wonderful. Yeah, one of these days

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I mean every year so far i've been upping my membership. So and if they keep the same patch, I think

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So far the patches have been different every year for me that i've been

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Signed up and so if the prism patch is the same next year then

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I'm just gonna do it

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Just do it

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Cool. So i'm gonna jump in our lighthouse vince. This one is recognizable to you

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You and I went and saw this lighthouse by happenstance in the outer banks

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Just the funsies. We had a little bit of free time and I was like, hey

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There's this other lighthouse on the map. That's not like part of our plan. I'm so excited. I think I know what it is

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Yeah, so we went and this was also when we went to like a cool distillery that was nearby. Yeah, so much fun nowadays

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This lighthouse you can only see a replica of the original

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The original is gonzo. Really? Yeah, so what we saw was the replica which was built in 2004

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Four different lighthouses have carried the name roanoke marshes lighthouse at the

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Croaton sound in north carolina. So we're gonna cover all four and that includes the replica

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the what sound

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croatin

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Croatian? Nope

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why?

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What do you think i'm doing? I just haven't heard that word before

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And I was there. You haven't heard a lot of words. You know what?

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That is true

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So before you go further this image is also on

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Our youtube page it is our cover banner image so check us out on youtube. That's right photo you took. Yep

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And uh, oh yeah, look at that pull up a nice photo of us in front of the lighthouse couple of handsome kids

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At the end of a really long pier like it was so fun to just kind of stumble upon

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I was on my knee scooter. So we had to kind of get over a hill. Yep. We parked in a weird spot

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It was a whole adventure

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We saw a sailboat who went and it went right by the lighthouse. Yeah, i've got good photos

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I will put in the effort now as we continue to talk to show those

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Yeah photos that I took that day kind of fun. Yeah, because I I wanted to see um

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Find the ones of the sailboat and everything but I couldn't find them on your facebook. Yeah, they're uh,

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They're not all posted. There were so many photos that I didn't post them all. This is a nice one of us

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Yeah, we just missed the museum hours. So we didn't get to go inside

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We wondered why everyone cleared out from the pier right as we showed up. It was like everyone trickled out

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We're like what's going on and we missed it by like 30 minutes. It was cool though. I mean, yeah to see it basically on our own

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We didn't go inside but and I don't want to step on your content but here in the windows

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It's a nice photo

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I think there's a bell I have a close-up photo. I think the bell's right there actually either way

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The first lighthouse went into service in 1831. So it's pretty early

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It was abandoned after only eight years for two reasons first one being that it needed extensive repairs

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So they were just like we're done with it

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And second is because a man was abandoned after only eight years for two reasons

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First one being that it needed extensive repairs. So they were just like we're done with it

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And second is because a man

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Mr. Van Pelt claimed he owned the land after this eight years

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And demanded a ridiculous sum of money for it. So instead of going through that whole debacle they were just like, you know what?

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I can just end it. I bet that's a whole deal. Yeah, let me pull up a map the land

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You'll have to get to the land because right now it's on a pier. Yeah, so we were on an island there

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There was bridges that went from either side

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For me the memory was fuzzy of like which direction we had to go to get there because we went to the outer banks and then

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Turned around and went back to roanoke island, which is what this is on. It's that distillery

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Let's see if I can find the name outer banks distilling if you're in that area. It's pretty cool

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Outer banks distilling. I seem to remember we really liked our cocktails there

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They were delicious like rum based old-fashioned in long island or something like that kill devil rum. Right? That's a good day

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Okay, so

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I pulled up roanoke island. You can see outer banks off to the side. There's the croatian sound and roanoke sound

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Mantio, I think is how it's pronounced and tail maybe

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I totally made that up and I don't know I I have it later, but I it won't let me scroll through my notes

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So that's where the lighthouse is now, but the original one was built

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At the very southern part of roanoke island against the croatian sound

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Oh in when cheese or whatever that is

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How do you think that's pronounced?

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when when kz

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What?

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I love i'm we're gonna have so much fun. We find out

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I know how to look it up one kz one kz

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when kz

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uh

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when chesie

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I'm like when cheese one one chesie one chesie when chesie

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That's my uh my guess

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When cheese when she's is what it says you're messing with me

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All right when cheese when cheese now, what is this isn't this one of our lighthouses that we saw before is that with this marker

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On google maps is uh, yes, so that's a body island. Oh cool. Yeah, so it's right up next to it

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That whole when cheese area is very marshy and that's how we got roanoke marshes because there's also a roanoke river lighthouse

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So not to be confused with that. Okay, so we had so i'm sorry

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Mantio or menteo. Yeah

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Uh is the current location?

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Manteo

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Manteo, I was just so wrong. Manteo sounds like a place though, doesn't it?

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I mean you can call it that if you want

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It's probably got a nice uh, manteo

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Franyl lens there franelle

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You got me so down

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When cheese yeah, I think you're messing with me down

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You're gonna record me and use ai to repeat that forever down in when cheese was the original location

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I'm gonna replace our um podcast intro song with you saying when cheese when cheese like a foghorn

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Manteo

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All right

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All right. So now so it's been relocated or the the model. How does that work?

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Was it a replica that was relocated the original was relocated?

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Why you ask me i'm gonna tell you later. Oh

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But i'm just saying that the original actually the first three lighthouses

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were in wanchese

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At the south part and then the replica was built in manteo and i'll tell you why so

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We've already gone through the first one first one's done

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1853 a petition was sent to the lighthouse board saying they needed a new roanoke marshes light

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Because the land where the original light was now being sold for a cheaper price

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So they're like, hey this guy's finally

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Got some sense

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So we should buy it

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So congress set aside ten thousand dollars to build it in 1854, but it wasn't finished until 1858

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I can't really I don't really know why just delays. It's not too long. It's four years solid

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Is that normal in the construction in lighthouse world? It seems like it's not that long. We've told some stories where it's taken

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A long time. I always go over budget always takes longer than they thought. Yeah, so anyway

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That one so the second one

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I couldn't find what the first one looked like

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The second one was octagonal with a lantern room on top attached to the seabed by seven piles

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But it was like marshy land. So it was like pretty shallow water

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And I also had a fourth order lens with a fixed white light

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So it was taken out of service by the confederates during the civil war but reinstated in

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1863 but within 10 years the marsh land underneath the lighthouse had like washed away

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Like exposing more and more of the the piles that it was on

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At that point it was like in 10 feet of water and so they were like

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We need to either fix this or build a new one

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But the support piles were surrounded by like cast iron where they were originally in the water

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But because the water level changes and like corrosion the wood was now totally exposed and had like shipworm

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Oh, no. Yeah

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So they were totally compromised. So they added a trio of copper piles at each corner of the lighthouse, which it was an octagon

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So like that's a ton of copper

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Yeah, but to fix all the damage would have been more expensive than a new lighthouse at that point

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so congress set aside fifteen thousand dollars for a new lighthouse and

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The difficulty of building at the current location meant that they had to wait for another five thousand dollars to come

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A year later in 1876 before they could start construction. So just more expensive than they anticipated

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So this is a pulled up picture of the third lighthouse. So a year after that 1877 the third

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Roanoke marshes lighthouse was built

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I like kind of like the boat. That's so cool. Yeah

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So at this point, this is what you call like originally when I first saw it

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I was like, oh, it's an integral lighthouse, but it's actually called a screw pile lighthouse

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Which is not one that we covered in our lighthouse types

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No

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So it's just because it's on screw piles that go into the

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Seabed and so it's called a screw pile lighthouse and i'm sure there's like other things about it that make it different than

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Just a lighthouse on piles. So the structure itself is what makes it. It's not the shape of the building

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No, the structure is screw pile and screw piles

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Screw into the bed. I would think so. They're put in I didn't look too deep into this could be really interesting

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Yeah, i'll have to though because I left it out of our lighthouse types. There's one I think

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The us LHS has a really close relationship with

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That's a similar style. I don't know if it's screw piles. Oh, yes. I know which one you're talking about

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It's also kind of like a hexagon or something, right?

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I know which one you're talking about and it's like in a river or sound or something

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Yes, it was part of the auction that they did for lighthouse business

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I really wanted it, but it was like said it was for one night

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It was worth like 500 something and somebody bid a thousand dollars right away. So nobody else touched it

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Like dang it

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And if you look at this picture, you can see it's exactly like the lighthouse that we went and visited that just happens to be

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Yeah, there ain't no pier

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Where's a pier? There ain't no bridge going out there. It's a whole bunch of screw piles

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So anyway

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The third lighthouse which you can see a replica of today is white and it's like a square dwelling with a light on top

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Supported by seven screw screw piles

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The fog bell boats and fourth order lens were brought over from the old light and then that one was dismantled

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So okay. So anytime there's a roanoke marshes lighthouse like a new one that's replaced

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You know how like in a lot of instances they build a new lighthouse and then the other ones just left there falls away

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Yeah. Yeah, like the three sisters one where they just fall into the ocean eventually

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Took care of that

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recycled yeah

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So so far there's only been one at a time, which is nice

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Yeah, they probably find something to do with the other pieces and so that you said they brought over the bell. That's really bell

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Yeah, the bell the boats and the lens now the the boats we did see they're inside weren't they I forgot about there

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Yeah, I wonder if it's supposed to be like what they have shown in this photo. And of course the lens that's really neat

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Yeah, of course cool

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1886 so less than 10 years later

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The light was changed to fixed red for instead of a fixed white and then five years after that

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They changed it to a sector light so refer to episode 36 for our section sector light

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Characteristic blah blah blah and sectors are pretty cool. I messed up the sentence. I wanted to say blah blah blah blah blah

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What what episode is that?

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36 um, but okay. That was what I asked. Okay. I've forgotten what number you just said

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It's after work listen if

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Anyone listening to the podcast is like me. They said yep. It's in an episode. She said the number I don't like could it could have been

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It could be anything. Yeah

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It doesn't reflect like on our relationship though. You listen to me pretty well, right? Sometimes we talk about episodes and there's a lot of

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The red sector that was part of this new light characteristic

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highlighted some of the dangerous areas areas in the crowet and sound and

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And they did this by installing red glass panels in the lantern room

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So I think that was like in the past we've seen that they just put like a frame like a metal frame

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Inside the lantern room, but it would need to be fixed there

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So maybe like screw it into the floor or something and then there's a glass panel inside

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So anytime the light flashes or if there's light, right? Yeah surrounds the it's not like it because at first I read that like they replaced

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Pan prisms. Oh, and I was like that would be way too expensive when they could just put up a panel like an actual panel

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So then I was thinking like oh, maybe they replaced a panel of the actual lantern room with red

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But it would be easier for them to just do a surround a piece of glass. Yeah, and then just nail it in the floor

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Yeah, so anyway, I don't have the details about exactly how they did that but

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You're probably right question. Yes the sectors. I

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when we looked at sector

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flash patterns light patterns

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You know, it was red clear and then green or red clear red or right?

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It had multiple options to help direct sailors. Yeah, right. Yeah. So in this is there a way that

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boats chips

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dinghies would come into the

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Sound the sound so they stay on that line

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I think it wasn't difficult to get into or out of the sound and so it wasn't like

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It was warning of like the red part was like you're probably like you're heading right towards the Roanoke Island and it starts to get

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Marshy, you know, that's like shallow water and like stuff and so it's like pick one way or the other

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It's white on either side of this red

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I see so it's like you go into Roanoke sound or you go into the crow attend sound that makes sense

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Yeah, so like and but I know what you're talking about the other ones

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It's like black or white or there's red where it's like, oh we talked about well, there's range lights and there's the

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one over the other that's range

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Another one

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I have to go listen to my own podcast apparently anyway shortly after that they added 80

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creosoted wooden piles

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Which I don't look huh? I think that means they're oiled

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Yeah, I didn't look too deep into it, but it sounded like they put tar on it or something and it makes them waterproof

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Yeah, or more water resistant cool. This lighthouse had been bumped into by seven boats

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All right, like just are you blind like did you miss the lighthouse?

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That's funny it's insane so

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after it was struck so many times they decided to surround it with

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Basically just like wooden beams sticking out of the water. It's like if you get too close

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You're gonna hit a wood beam instead of the lighthouse

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so funny

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but I think they were they were kind of spread out was like to the north and south and

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They were spread out like in clusters every 20 feet or something

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And the range was like 150 feet from the lighthouse on each side

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So it was a pretty big radius where you couldn't get too close to the lighthouse with your boat

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Nice

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1899 the station's fog bell was replaced as it had become badly cracked and

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After two years this was replaced with a blower siren operated by an oil engine. So just like air compressed

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Yeah

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Updating you know keeping up with the times

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But they kept the bell

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They just didn't use it anymore because the bell is still there

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Yeah, they just didn't use it anymore

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or like

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Maybe they included it in the replica because that was the only thing that was left

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because that was the original plan was to have the bell up there or maybe that's not even the bell that they used for

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Maybe it's just a little I don't know all the details. It's a tiny bell. So

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Yeah, I did include the photo that you took of the bell. So we'll see that in a little bit

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I have a picture that I think shows some of the piles here

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These wooden clusters

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So it seems like there should be more than that and this is a really old photo must be in line with the way ships

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Would often come yeah, it must been it looks like a lot of wide open water. It doesn't look that big on maps

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But it's a cool picture. Have you seen that is a cool photo

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Like when you're looking through the US LHS archives, how many photos are postcards? Have you seen that? No, they used to do like

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Postcards for lighthouses and there was tons of them like at first they were drawings and then they were photos and

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And people submit them to the the archives so that you can check them out. That's cool

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I'll have to include some sometimes I always kind of skip over them because the pictures aren't very clear

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You know, we have really good ones now

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That aren't postcards. I'm gonna I'm tempted to use this is our

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Cover photo. Well, or I could put a picture of us. How rare is that? Yeah

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One of the cover photos you can see our beautiful faces who are these two random people these white people these Kansans who talk about lighthouses?

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Man

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This is a cool picture old. I wonder I didn't say exactly what year was taken in so wish I knew

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During this time when they added the new siren the keeper was Charles Pugh. Well, the assistant keeper was Charles Pugh

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Pugh

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Oh

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and then he came back as headkeeper in

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1907 and he was repeatedly recognized for saving those in distress at the lighthouse seeds. He was just a really good lighthouse MVP

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Yeah, we always talk about how keepers are

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Like they're supposed they're in charge of the light, but they're also like

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lifesaving stations. They're also in charge of keeping an eye out and at the very least reporting if there was

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accidents or

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People that needed help but most of the time they were the kind of men that would just get up and be like

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Better getting my little boat that's hanging outside and so much responsibility. Go get them. Yeah

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Crazy, so he did all kind of he like piloted disabled yachts into harbors. I'm like, bro

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My god would free boats from ice if people were stuck

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Even transported those that were stuck on a seaplane to shore and then back again the next morning. So like went to go pick them up

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That's awesome. He's a really great guy

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during the last year of World War one the water froze around the lighthouse and

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Pugh didn't get supplies for like weeks and they just couldn't send anybody to get out there and there was like I didn't put it all

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In here, but there was a story of like a Navy cook who was just like like he knew him or something

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It was like I'm getting over there. Like I'm I'm gonna go help him out. So he

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Delivered supplies to this guy. I don't know how if it sounds epic

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Yeah, if the lighthouse board was like we can't help you

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It's like how do you get over here? That's risky to I know

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Good for him. Yeah, so Charles Pugh was awarded a commissioners efficiency star in 1916

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This was something I mentioned in the uniform history buoy and I didn't make note of

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What episode that was but that was a good history boy. I loved that one talking about the uniforms

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I think it was an earlier episode

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So he also he got another one in 1922 and a superintendent's efficiency star in 1924

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Which there must have been many more than that because you only get a commissioner star after you're awarded three consecutive

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Superintendent stars Wow, so he was

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Basically, he was very well kept and he was an excellent keeper super of the month

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He was often rewarded for being such a being such a good guy

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Now were these like stars that they would decorate their uniforms?

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So they would wear that's pretty cool. So cool very official and then at the end of the year

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They would send them back. So then you it was like a temporary holder. Yes, like honor you got to honor it

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Yeah, and send it back pretty neat the first keeper at the first lighthouse

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Actually, the only keeper at the first lighthouse because he was there the entire 88 years was little John Pugh and so it's the same last name

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although

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You can't assume that they're related just because it's the same last name

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Yeah, but Pugh is kind of a it seems it seems unique

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So I don't know if there was any relation there

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But it also made me realize that little John was actually a name like it wasn't a nickname on the birth certificate

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Little John two words little John. I knew a guy whose last name was little John. Oh really?

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Yeah, oh my gosh. I think of

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in

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Robin Hood

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Huh the rapper little John? No

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No, I'm thinking about Robin Hood. Yeah the bear little John. Oh, I forgot that character

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Robin Hood and little John walking through the forest. I think it's little John

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Now I'm confused because there's a prince John isn't there? Oh

423
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What's wrong with me? Let's see

424
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Robin Hood and little John. Okay, so I was right. How does that go?

425
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son son son son

426
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Robin Hood and little John

427
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Son son son son the other one walking through the forest laughing back and forth to what the other has to say

428
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Thank you

429
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Okay

430
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Moving on the lighthouse the third one was decommissioned by the Coast Guard in 1955. I

431
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:58,280
can't remember exactly what happened and like because I feel like that's a pretty good spot for a lighthouse like cuz

432
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Yeah, the island is you have to split around the island to go into either sound

433
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You'd think you'd want a lighthouse there

434
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But maybe it was just because it was hard to get out to because you have to row like you can't walk to the lighthouse

435
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I don't know. But anyway, they decommissioned in 55 and they suggested the town of Mantio purchase it and rolly

436
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Relocated

437
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,600
Reload. What did I say? Roly Roly Roly locate

438
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Relay Kate Roly locate. Oh

439
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,360
We never record at 7 7 7 o'clock it's not 7 o'clock 7 o'clock

440
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,400
We got to go to bed in like an hour

441
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What happened

442
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Ah Relocate it to the town water waterfront

443
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So I'm not really sure and I was almost what is that Canadian water waterfront? I don't think that's Canadian

444
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But I've heard people say that

445
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You know wash down wash waterfront. There was my football coach. I don't think you Canadian. He's just redneck

446
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Okay, I'll just follow my notes I

447
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,280
Am interested why man CEO like why why did they why did the Coast Guard say hey, maybe it's like the only

448
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Major like city it seems the major like town on this island

449
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,520
So the you should take it where it's at now and I don't mean to step on your content again

450
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:29,040
But it's a nice downtown remember house like nice stores. Yeah, like an old downtown beautiful

451
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,000
condos and apartments like like historical downtown is historical and

452
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,120
Looking expensive. Very nice

453
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,640
Expensive very nice. I don't mean that as a criticism

454
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Yeah, wonderful everything like flowers planted in every space and like everything's painted white like it's not dirty. It's so clean

455
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Potentially, there's a history there of that was like the the trade center. Yeah, true

456
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:59,420
The what is it the harbor because there was a little bit of a harbor there? Yeah. Yeah the sailboats

457
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,560
Yeah, had to go somewhere that might be true. I don't know. I'm guessing but before

458
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:12,520
Mantio could purchase it and Elijah Tate bought it some random civilian. Hmm probably with money to spare and

459
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,440
Cut the lighthouse from its foundation and placed on a barge to deliver to its new home

460
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,020
So just lighthouse sitting on a barge

461
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,520
However, okay, just as it was on the move

462
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:31,580
Rough-seas literally toppled the lighthouse off of this barge and it sunk into the sound no way

463
00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:38,240
Yeah, and I couldn't find unlike an approximate location of where it is. So it's just like dunzo. That's twice now

464
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:40,240
I wonder if it's like dunzo

465
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,500
one two three dunzo, I

466
00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:45,380
wonder if it totally was destroyed or

467
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:50,860
If like the lighthouse itself sank to the bottom. Yeah, well in the couple of like

468
00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:53,580
crazy

469
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sources

470
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toppled is a word that makes it seem like

471
00:34:57,020 --> 00:35:01,820
It was it didn't fall apart or anything. It just slid off like slid off the barge

472
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:07,420
So anyway, that's just like lost. Can you imagine Jimmy? Did you do those ratchet straps?

473
00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:18,460
This guy he bought a couple of other screwpile lighthouses in the area as well Elijah was collecting lighthouse Elijah

474
00:35:18,460 --> 00:35:22,580
Yeah, he was like, you know, what really makes me a lighthouse enthusiast is to own them

475
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:26,200
And he cut it off put him in my backyard look

476
00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:29,820
Next to my Hummer

477
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:38,580
He put him on a barge and then his barge didn't sink but it lost the light rocks and I guess that's embarrassing

478
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:40,420
Yeah, what did you have it on wheels?

479
00:35:40,420 --> 00:35:45,140
Don't know and we'll never know could make a cool t-shirt a lighthouse toppling into the ocean

480
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:49,620
Rip Roanoke Marshes three SS Elijah

481
00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:57,620
So the town of Manteo did not give up and they decided to build a replica as part of their 1999 centennial celebration

482
00:35:57,620 --> 00:36:02,740
Okay, but due to funding delays and a couple of hurricanes I

483
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:09,260
Should not laugh. I'm sorry pushed back past the centennial moment and instead was built in 2004

484
00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:12,740
So okay, it's a lot of time, but they made it happen

485
00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:17,060
Okay, we almost saw it 20 years later. I know it's crazy. I

486
00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:20,500
Know and it was we were like, why is it 2004 like?

487
00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:27,700
Why yeah, do they build lighthouses? I forgot about that. It was so early. Oh, yeah. I mean honor banks was episode 10. So

488
00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:33,500
So cute son, we've come so far. Yeah, we do slightly better job at this point

489
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:37,140
We have a system now at the very least marginally

490
00:36:37,340 --> 00:36:42,420
So anyway, they built this replica where the wastewater plant used to be for Manteo

491
00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:49,220
I got a little picky they had a what what a wastewater plant at the end of the pier on the water. Oh my gosh

492
00:36:50,660 --> 00:36:53,260
Isn't that wild I thought it smelled like shit. No

493
00:36:55,660 --> 00:37:00,180
No, it was beautiful. Yeah, so cool little photo I am glad that they

494
00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:04,820
Relocated that yeah, cuz you know that was just like being discharged into the water

495
00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:08,760
The fish loved it. You oh, yeah

496
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:15,300
Just good fishing right there moving on the Coast Guard loaned a fourth order lens for display in the lantern room

497
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:20,180
So you can like climb up and go and see it very cool and you can go in and check out their museum

498
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:26,180
Which we talked about run by the Roanoke Island Maritime Museum. I can't believe here's some photos. Wow, who took those?

499
00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:30,060
They're so good and so clear see we actually had a great opportunity

500
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:35,420
Nobody else on the pier like it turned out really nice. Yeah. Yeah, it's carefully timed

501
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:40,140
I was waiting for people to walk out of sight, but that's normal. What is that year on there?

502
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:43,860
Is that say 19? I don't know. It looks like it says US

503
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:46,780
Coast Guard

504
00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:50,020
1948 I almost hit my face on the microphone

505
00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:57,660
1948 and that that was some seven years before they decommissioned it. So I

506
00:37:58,220 --> 00:38:00,220
wonder if the Coast Guard was like

507
00:38:00,220 --> 00:38:04,780
Decommissioned the oh the oh the old one. Yeah, I don't know about this a

508
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:10,020
Bell would have been lost with the lighthouse. So is that a replica? Yeah. Yeah

509
00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:17,580
It's all a replica. I just don't know if the the Coast Guard also like donated a a bell

510
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,980
Can you make a replica that includes? Yeah something that says

511
00:38:22,660 --> 00:38:24,660
You can't see I

512
00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:27,140
Don't know details. There's probably some licensing

513
00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:30,340
Stuff but probably would have been cool with it. Well

514
00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:34,820
When we go back we can ask them. Yeah, I'd like to go back to this area

515
00:38:34,820 --> 00:38:37,300
It will I would too. We've got a lot of trips to go on so

516
00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:43,060
It'll be a bit but it was the Outer Banks was fun. Roanoke Island was really fun

517
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:47,620
It's a it seemed like a nice place. You could just stay and enjoy it staying there

518
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,820
Yeah, and I remember we said that whenever we went and saw this area

519
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:54,820
We were like, oh we should have stayed a night in this little town and seen everything but

520
00:38:54,820 --> 00:38:59,940
We just didn't know we just didn't know no better. Well and on the map as we saw it's not far from Nags Head

521
00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:01,940
Yeah, another very close

522
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:08,740
Busy place for the area. So very cool. Good job. That's Roanoke Marsh's lighthouse

523
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:14,340
So I'll have to cover a Roanoke River sometime. It's it's different, which is nice like visually

524
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:19,860
It's a pretty different lighthouse also screw pile. What's this lighthouse on screen? That's the lighthouse

525
00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:25,140
All right, well that's what I got

526
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