March 3, 2025
Episode 72 - Biloxi Lighthouse
In honor of WIC week, we are covering the lighthouse with the most years kept by women keepers! Biloxi Lighthouse is also known well in Mississippi as a symbol of resilience after surviving Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
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Hi everyone, I'm Emily and I'm Vince and this is the lighthouse lowdown
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Choking down your coffee. It's not coffee
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So yeah, I'm not drinking caffeine right now or I'm minimizing caffeine and sugars and stuff
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So this is I asked for a decaf black coffee
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Hot and they're like we can't do that
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But we could do a decaf americano
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That doesn't make sense. Okay, so you have decaf espresso, but not I've never once heard of decaf espresso
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This is a coffee shop. Yeah anyways, so I
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Just added some honey to it because I couldn't drink the
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Combination before and even now it's you're cooing. It's like coffee tea
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Oh, I had some tea. Well, I mean it's watered-down coffee
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If it's iced I usually like americano's, but if it's hot I feel like it would be really obvious
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Right, that's watery. I'm sorry. I didn't say the number of the other just realized we forgot that
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Vincent I were trying to get a good system for data storage
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Yeah, and it included saying the number of the episode at the beginning and we didn't do that
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So that's fine. I just was distracted by the fact that you this is episode number 72
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I'm like holding up my arms
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Like are you going to see this? This is why we need cameras
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We need people to be able to see me hold up my arms. We really don't and see we really don't because every other part is going to be
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My facial expressions. Yes, that would be great. Then I would have to dress nice
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No, that's people don't want you to dress nice. They want you to be yourself. That's
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irrelevant
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This is the third best lighthouse podcast in the world at least
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We're in the top three for sure. Yeah, probably second best in the United States for sure and
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They don't have video so it's not like we're behind on the times
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But if we had video maybe we'd be number one. Yeah, it would be all over tick-tock
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Yeah, capture the kids. We get a whole new generation at that Jeremy was saying Jeremy Deftramont when we talked with him
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Yeah, he interviewed us. Yes. Yeah, he was saying
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How do we get the next generation involved? Just the thought of also?
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prioritizing a bunch of the social media like I'd have to quit some of my other hobbies
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Some of your other jobs that are unpaid and we can't because we're planning a wedding and I have a list of about 20 things to do
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With my hands. Yeah, there's a lot of other things to do. These are just DIY things to do
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Yeah, and that's why this episode is being recorded two days before it's released and
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That's also why we went for a shorter episode and I don't have a history buoy rock chalk
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Let's go trying to convince it down so that when I edit it today
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It's uh what what?
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I'm just like blank staring blank staring at my face and let's do a personal history buoy because we don't have a lighthouse history
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Buoy, okay, but the whole point of the no history buoy is that it's a shorter episode
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Well, then I'll stop talking well
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But what was it gonna be anyway cuz now I'm curious the thing we talked about with restaurants and memories and like we have three restaurants
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We could go to for our anniversary in the future. Oh, yeah, that's not
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Worth mentioning. All right, we're going cut that out and cut here Emily
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Oh no, okay, I'm gonna go into our episode so that
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It's so it's good
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we're gonna be talking about
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Biloxi lighthouse and this is a direct result of
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When we were driving in the car the other day and I was saying
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We've never covered a lighthouse in Mississippi
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Is there even any lighthouses in Mississippi because the coastline is so tiny and turns out there are down in the sip
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Yeah, so we're pronounce it again Biloxi Biloxi bi
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L O X I
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Okay, Biloxi and I did listen to some videos to figure out the pronunciation and
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There that did not happen for anything else in this episode. So I'm just gonna be like
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There's two words in particular three words right now that I'm looking at that
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I won't know how to pronounce par for the course. We're fine
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It's kind of part of the spirit of our podcast. That's why we're the third best lighthouse podcast in the world
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Jeremy says everything confidently and I just wallow Jeremy is a historian and a professional
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We are amateur or amateurs tour lighthouse enthusiasts. Yeah, so we don't have to know it all
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We're not getting paid for anything, but we got Biloxi. We're going to Mississippi
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Biloxi lighthouse was one of three Mississippi sound lighthouses
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Authorized in 1847 back in the day
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So I pulled a picture of the coastline just to it
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Accentuate how tiny it is the dotted lines are all that we have of Mississippi touching water
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So twelve thousand dollars was set aside in March of that year with one acre bought from John
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Faird for six hundred dollars to build the South's first cast iron lighthouse and keeper's dwelling
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Which were completed a year later in 1848. Nice the lighthouse is 65 feet tall made of bolted plates of cast iron
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Painted white and reinforced with a brick lining which we've talked about with other lighthouses. Yeah fairly standard for a lot of American lighthouses
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Yeah, but at this time in the south it was the first one to have that sort of build
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So it's kind of fun. It's skinny. Oh by the way, this picture that I just pulled up was taken in 1892
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I'm like, why is it so clear? This looks like a 1900s photo
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Like a night like a really good photo
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70s photo. I mean it was big news though, right? It's the first lighthouse like this in the area
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So it's probably a professional just surprised by that because it's so clear. I thought for sure it'd be like 19
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But six five feet tall
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I'm pretty good nowadays
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So let me just keep I keep wanting to like
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Talk about the interesting things that I know I'm gonna talk about and just say it right now
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I'm like no, there's a structure made of cast iron. Although the first keeper was a man
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Marsilis
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Hey point of interest you said a brick lining. Yeah, so the inside yeah, I figured the outside be break. No the inside
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It's yes. Interesting. The outside keeps more water out than brick. Yeah historically. Yeah welded and
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Interesting. Okay. Thank you
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The first keeper I tried to pronounce his name Marsilis J Howard. I'm gonna say so he was a man
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But this lighthouse is known for having the most it's kept by women for the longest amount of years in the US
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Thanks first female keeper and second keeper of the lighthouse was Maria Reynolds and she started working in 1854 and
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Worked through 1866 so solid over a decade 12 years
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Yeah, and she was a keeper
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She was the keeper when the reflectors were replaced with fixed white fourth order lens in 1856
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So that's pretty early to get a Fresnel lens
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I think considering how far south we are and how like it took
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This long to get a lighthouse down here that I don't know
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I feel like it would have been a lot later that they would have supplied a light a Fresnel lens over here
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Yeah, it's interesting in fourth order too is I forget the ranges, but it's
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Smaller range. Yeah mid-level. So this is are we looking at this photo that's on screen
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It looks like we're standing in the low tide. We're standing in the water. Yeah, potentially
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So there's a bay right here. Anyways, the point is fourth order is right on the coast. Yeah, so fix white
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Cool, and that's the Gulf, right?
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Yeah, yeah, that's Gulf of Mexico
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small pause
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Due to the deaths of her relatives she was the guardian to several orphan children
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So even during the Civil War she and the kids lived in the lighthouse
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So like oh in a lot of instances during a war keepers were not in the lighthouse, you know, they
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Shuttered the lighthouse until the end of the war
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But in this case they let her stay there and continued to pay her because she had so many orphan children living in the lighthouse
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So crazy, I guess I've never considered this before so during the Civil War, right?
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I don't remember the time frame. I thought it was before this
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The reason I asked wait, let me
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1861 it started and I think it ended in 1866. Let's find it
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1865 so
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Okay, you say they paid her who paid her
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LHS well when
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US splits into I'm not sure that's what I was gonna say is it's probably a northern
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governmental body
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So I don't think they were paying any southern it had to well when the South separated they formed their own government
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Yeah, so like I'm sure that they had every avenue of what they used to have
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Interesting crazy that that happened in our history. I've never thought about it before but being a government sponsored
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Activity and then the government splits. That's yeah, she's probably like oh, no
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Have lots of kids in here
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You know, we watched the nun the nun too, and I'm like terrifying. Oh the horror movies. Yes
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and then there's like all these stories of
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You know abuse and stuff and I'm like that doesn't sound nice, but like modern nunneries seem to be
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People elect to do this with their lives. Well, I think most nuns throughout history. I've had good lives
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Yeah, I don't I think the story like for one the horror movie is you know
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Oh, yeah, but the stories that stand out are atypical I think
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from
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What is it monasteries or monks nunneries or nuns and there are they?
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None nuns are part of the Catholic Church. Yeah, right? Okay, sure
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So for example, I saw you said I saw some video on nuns last week. I saw one too
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said mine was a
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basketball game. Oh my gosh nuns were in full full dress playing basketball and
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Shooting three pointers and making them. Oh, it'd be so sweaty. I'm pretty sure it's a real video. You know, yeah
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I mean, I'm sure
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Okay, sorry I got so distracted the nuns don't even have anything to do with the story
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speculation
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okay
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In the 1850s the lights stood less than 30 feet from the sand
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So a 104 foot concrete seawall was built to protect the tower from the waves
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And I'm pretty sure that's what's in this photo surrounding
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Oh, yeah, the lighthouse. That's the seawall nice in 1860 part of the seawall collapsed from a storm
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And this area gets lots of hurricanes like over history
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Mm-hmm, and it washed away sand around the lighthouse
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And so it formed a void under one part of the light and it developed a two-foot lean
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And they said that if the lighthouse was not
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Surrounded by the cast iron it absolutely there was no way it would have survived because just brick you think about two feet difference
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Oh, yeah lean it would be over
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But because it had cast iron it
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Held together until they were able to fix it
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But instead of filling the void underneath they took earth from the other side of the lighthouse and it slowly
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settled
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Back to normal. That's impressive. Yeah, I wonder if it settled lower in elevation
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Oh, I bet so they just took it all well
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This anything with sand is constantly changing. So I guess I don't really know I'm really tempted to talk about the cast iron
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I think I'll save that for a future. Oh history buoy. Yeah, I have some cast iron news at work. Anyways, oh
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I'm interested but just yeah for next time a
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Fifth order for nolens was installed after the war and is still there today
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So you can go and see it nice and I have a picture. I don't think it's very good quality, but
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Yeah, it's bad quality
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But still you can see what it looks like. It's pretty neat. It appears that it's got some pitting going on
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I mean, how can you just be the image quality? Yeah, maybe it's just really sparkly. So so you said fifth order?
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Yeah, so I don't know that we've talked about a fifth order lens other than when we first talked about for now lenses
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And the size is available. Yeah, maybe
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They're definitely not common because most lighthouse like if we talk about lighthouses on the Great Lakes or whatever fourth order is pretty much
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What they always get so the third is rare
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So cute
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Still looks heavy. Oh, yeah, for sure
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So it was it was downgraded from fourth to fifth hour order interesting and they did that while the tower and the dwelling were being restored
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So the dwelling was painted white while the tower was given a coat of black coal tar to protect from rust
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However, the timing of this was poor because many thought the tower was painted black in morning after Abraham Lincoln's death and
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So like it caused some unrest and yeah, because it was in the south
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Yeah, it to Bellum and on top of that
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Sailors found it very hard to see a black lighthouse against all the dark like trees that they had going on
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And so it took another two years, but they painted it white again
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1868 well, it's hard to get
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Tar off of any structure. That's one of the benefits of it's protecting it from being rusted
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Yeah, so you see they just painted over the top of the
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Campaign over tar paint over tar. I don't think you can I think they'd have to strip it. Oh, man with chemicals or straight. I mean
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Sounds terrible
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They're like fine. No wonder it took two years
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Oh
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Here's another keeper's name that I'm gonna have to pronounce Perry young ins young hands
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Young ins of course
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He was keeper following the war but passed away within the year like the first year of his service
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So his wife Maria took over as keeper until 1918
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that
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From the 60s to the 20s almost
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67 to
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1918 okay, so over 50 years 40
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50 years oh my gosh
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So crazy we don't see a lot of people serving for that long and especially not like women usually were
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Placeholders well, yeah, I'm starting in the 1800s. It was like oh, you know my husband died until you find the next one
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I'm gonna be keeper. Yeah, but this is crazy
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It's hard to understand but things moved slower
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Ten years ago. I can't imagine the 1800s how fast or rather slow things moved
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So like a job listing goes out. Oh, there's no LinkedIn. Yeah, there's there. Maybe they'll post it locally
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the technology at the time was maybe that's the newspaper
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The newspaper used to have job listings in it, but I don't know how you're gonna find a new
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Person who wants to be a lighthouse keeper that often. Yeah, so yeah husband dies
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maybe they the wife often takes over or family member takes over and then I don't know if they're active even actively seeking new
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Yeah, they're just kind of like okay good
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There's no school of lighthouse keeping at this time really it is interesting that I know of there's no like there's no where they're coming from being
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Generated from right so they're just like people who it's not like a specific
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Thing you learn how to do yeah, and that's another history
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But I want to do is what qualifies you to be a lighthouse keeper like if you apply
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What makes you more likely is it like having a mechanical like having an engineering background or you know like
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Um, what's the word a mechanic, but yeah handy handy man
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handy woman
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Yeah, well, and then that's probably part of the US LHE and their establishment of like we wear uniforms
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Yes, we do that like his military was the way that they organized. Yeah, we can't look like a bunch of civilian people like we got to make it
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Look real interesting
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Anyway, well it's 50 years of service the New Orleans Daily
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Was that was that Emily
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The what why don't they just call it New Orleans Daily
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Newspaper, but it probably was a different one called that New Orleans Daily pick a you know
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Pick a youn pick a youn. I don't know. What is that?
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Anyone knows how to pronounce that please let us know this is what I get for copying and pasting this one thing
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I was like, I don't feel like typing that out. Well now I forget to look up pronunciation
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Anyway, October 21st
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1893 they noted Maria's action during a hurricane that struck earlier that month quote at Biloxi Mrs.
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young ins
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The plucky woman who was in charge of the light kept the light going all through the storm notwithstanding the fact there were several
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Feet of water in the room where she lived
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I'm quote. Oh my gosh, and there was actually lots of mentions of Maria being a like hearty people saying a man
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What would be a Paul that the stuff that she like marched out and just dealt with like especially during hurricanes
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They always had mentioned of how she was just like a powerful lady. Well, she had seen some shit. Yeah
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You know she there's there's two options and she chose to go through it. Yeah, I
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Don't know those stories, but I could just tell
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Lucky woman. So she actually lived in the tower. There was a keeper's well, okay
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It sounded like the dwelling was in the tower for a moment. Oh, no. Yeah, it was separate
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Hurricane that they mentioned heavily damaged the breakwater protect the lighthouse
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But it was repaired the following year using timber and concrete
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So nothing, I mean the light house has lived through this is still original
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So it's lived through every single hurricane that's come its way to today. Mm-hmm. So there
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1877 the board noticed the dwelling was in disrepair so much so that they decided to demo it and build a new one. So
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Maria got a new house
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$4,000 in
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During the end of Maria's stint at the lighthouse her daughter Miranda served as assistant keeper unofficially
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It's not listed as like an official keeper, but she took over as headkeeper in 1919 until 1929 so another decade of young ins
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in the system
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The light was electrified in
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1926 and given a new flash pattern of an occulting white light that was dark for two seconds and lit for three seconds
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And it was automated in 1940. I think the flash pattern is still the same today. So
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So how long is it the young ins is the name? Yeah, how long were they operating that lighthouse? That seems like a long time
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the 50s until 1867 to
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1929 okay, I thought that was earlier than the 60s, but still yeah, dang pretty cool
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The lighthouse was declared surplus property in 1968 and the city of Biloxi has had ownership ever since
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So they got the deed the lighthouse at that time and they take really good care of it. They've done restorations and
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You know, they're ahead of their time great shape today. So that's smart of them
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I mean as we've talked about there's there was a real dry spell
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It appears in lighthouse care taking an interest in the 80s and 90s
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You know windows and fresnel lenses are being shot at on several several different places
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People would just use them as target practice. I know people broke in
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Burned them down stole things. So it's good for Biloxi to take care of their tower through that time
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Yeah, and I'm seeing uh, I follow Hillsborough inlet lighthouse Hillsborough. I think
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And they're doing a restoration right now and it's just like just gonna be
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So expensive. Oh, yeah
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I just I'm happy that there's people that care enough about it to be like we have to we have to do this
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So like even though it's so painfully expensive in order for it to survive we have to and that's what we're gonna do
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Yeah, well we so we were in construction and design and there's some customers where
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These project timelines are long like five years between so for example a project was designed
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So the customer said hey, we need this thing. It's an industrial big commercial customer. Yeah, we need this process
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So our company designs it on paper and we give them a price
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to build it and they say okay
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And then five years went by because the money's coming together because we're finding people to actually do the construction
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You know, we're managing it
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Getting permits the whole process and then over those five years the equipment that goes inside this building
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Has escalated in cost so much that the customer says what the heck?
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We can't afford to build this. It's not what the what we were quoted. It's like
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well
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It's like those a long time. It was a long time. It was five years ago. So you took too long to do paperwork
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Yeah, and and so the point of this is our construction is just crazy crazy expensive
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I wouldn't be surprised if specialty construction like lighthouses will set new records
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Uh for sure this decade any restorations that happen. Yeah, and like materials and stuff are
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Probably not especially if you're trying to do like a restoration based on
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historical yes, like historical
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materials and stuff for acerellings. Yeah, it's got to just be crazy
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cast iron casings
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Not common. I'm glad there's still people out there that are doing that kind of stuff even though the price tag is insane
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A hurricane destroyed the keepers dwelling in 1969
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But the lighthouse survived and its construction was tough enough to withstand all hurricanes since then
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So we don't have a keepers dwelling anymore sad
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lighthouse wiped out
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In 1998 with the destruction of round island lighthouse in mississippi
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Biloxi became the last of over 10 lighthouses to be built on the mississippi coastline to still be standing. Wow
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It's the only one. There's some other little ones, but I don't think that they're they're not like originals
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Yeah, that's crazy the last of 10 that were constructed. Mm-hmm on the coastline
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In 2005 Biloxi lighthouse became the symbol of resilience still standing draped to the american flag after hurricane kurchina ripped through the south
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I've got a picture of what?
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Like this first picture is what the lighthouse looked like after the hurricane so
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Where did it pick up an american flag?
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Well, I assume someone took it up there
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No, I mean with the way that it's draped it kind of looks like
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Maybe it was hanging
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Before hand and then it got all tangled up or something, but katerina was that was in our
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Well in my lifetime when I was paying attention. It was awful. Yeah
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I have a vague memory of that happening, but being in texas, you know, we were pretty close. Yeah
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Yeah
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But uh, but lexy gosh. Yeah, it is not far from
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New Orleans, which is not at all. It like when I showed the
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Maps screenshot you could see New Orleans off to the side cool photo. Yeah, glad it made it
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Its imagery was printed on stamps and license plates in the state following that as the symbol of powering through
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I want one of those license plates. Isn't that cool? It's awesome
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The script on mississippi is really cool, too. I like that it um, bulloxi has a
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Weather vane on top
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Yeah, we haven't I think I've seen one or two of those I can say we haven't seen that before I have seen it once
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Or maybe we haven't covered the lighthouse that has that
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It's pretty cute and I love the tiny little windows
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That's probably how it's survived all this time. It's right on the water, too. Yes, it's right there
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And that was um, you know what I was saying earlier is it used to be
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30 feet from the shoreline and so now nowadays it's not it's like 100 something and it's actually in the median of
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A highway, so it's just like the lighthouse with a highway going on either side
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I was gonna say there's a road in the Katrina photo. There's a road
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What 10 feet from the base? Yeah, no on the other side is the other split. Yeah. Oh my gosh
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It's so crazy how the world just builds around history
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So if you want to go visit this lighthouse, is that something you can do? Yes
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Yeah, and I looked at their website and there's no description of how you're supposed to get there
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So it's gotta be obvious. There's gotta be some kind of crop tunnel or bridge or something. Yeah
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Just run across the highway
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That's so funny
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But 2010 a restoration of the tower was completed following
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extensive damage to the brick lining following Hurricane Katrina
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katikatikachow
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I keep saying katikow
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That's like the one thing that we should know
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I just can't I guess I can I've never really said that a lot
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They also did rewiring restoring the decorative fence and also repainted so
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I like that they kind of prioritized that after the hurricane because there was so much focus on it being like something
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That survived. Yeah
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so they painted two blue lines inside the lighthouse indicating how high the waters were
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at the lighthouse during hurricane Katrina, which was
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21.5 feet
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Hurricane Camille, which was 17.5 feet and this was the hurricane that
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Camille there's so many that's where the this one was keeper's house was gone. No
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I think this was the hurricane while
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Maria was keeper. So it was a long time ago
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1969 okay, so no that was that was the one that took out the that was right. Yeah, good work
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So how tall is the lighthouse overall?
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65 feet
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So the water was a third of the lighthouse in height. How creepy that had to have been like water
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It was inside. Yeah. Well the door breaks in with that much pressure
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Pretty crazy
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I can't even imagine being there. I wonder I don't humans were there
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That's what I was gonna say is there's gonna be there's probably no photo of it of looking down at the water inside of a lighthouse
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I think your staircase submerged. Well, you just have to hope that it recedes before you need to come down
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I'm sure there's like not a lot of places safer safer to be than in a lighthouse during a hurricane
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I mean inland would be better. Well, well, yeah
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Well when before weather was accurately no warning predicted. Yeah, it just
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Where do you run very little warning?
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Go to the lighthouse that's 30 feet away from
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The water was it bolivar point lighthouse that bolivar that had uh filled with people
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Yeah, didn't go well, right? Um, they all lived the ones on the inside. It was just a chaotic experience and then when they came out
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There was lots of people
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It's yeah, I think of that as more sad than happy even though the people on the inside survived. Oh, no because because it was
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Traumatic devastating they can be thankful for the fact that they're alive and still be like that was the worst experience of my entire life
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Like they definitely have PTSD from that
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Oh gosh, I can't even imagine so and also this I mean
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I mean, senior, I just I just trying to picture we took a photo
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Which lighthouse was that that she pointed out we could take a picture through the the clockwork chain opening
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Oh, um, not sit like was it not sit? Um, I took a
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It's actually a really good photo, but let's see if I can find it
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Um down through that slot looking at the staircase
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And just imagine, you know, it was like this bright sunny day
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The doors open the sunlight now imagine it's filled with water and it's black howling winds outside and it'd be dark too
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Everything's rocking. Oh my gosh. It would be so scary
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It's gonna be in a horror film in five years
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But yeah nowadays you can visit the lighthouse for five dollars daily from nine to ten a.m
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So you only get one hour to get in there. I'm sure it's a volunteer effort helping out
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Yeah, for sure. That's great though to be open daily. That's pretty good
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Most most lighthouses you really don't need an hour at no, but if there's a museum or there's grounds
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Yeah, especially because there's no I mean, this is just you're gonna see the tower and then you're gonna leave
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There's no there's no grounds. There's no keepers dwelling. There's nothing. There's a highway. Yeah
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Just the sound of cars
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And they do have a live feed on their website from
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Um, uh from the lighthouse 24 7 so it's just kind of like showing the coastline and the cars and stuff you can watch it like a little uh
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GoPro cam. Yeah, nice. Yeah, and that's that that's Biloxi lighthouse. Good job city of Biloxi
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Yeah, I know restoring when it needs it and
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It's pretty weird people interested. I'm sure every everyone who drives on the highway that's never been there before is like
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It's a lighthouse in the middle of the highway in the median surprise. No one's hit it yet
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Here's a nice picture. It's knocked on wood
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of
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Oh shoot, I never thought about that. That's a dangerous place for the lighthouse. I mean, it's kind of ironic because you know a lighthouse is like
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Stay away, right? Yeah
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Isn't this interesting it is there's just enough space they left they've got some cute
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Like landscaping around it. It literally it's uh, it's a highway median
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It looks like there might be a park or a beachfront on the left. Oh, yeah, it's all beachy. Nice
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I would love to go to this area and from this picture. It's a highway. There's stop lights
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So I'm sure you walk across one side of the street and then walk towards the lighthouse on the median
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It's a beautiful uh photo. It's gorgeous and the doors
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Are nice. They didn't look like that after Hurricane Katrina. Katina
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Hurricane tortilla
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Oh man, this is one I'd actually really like to see
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Do we think we'll ever like to see all the lighthouses we've talked about?
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I know I know but I feel like this one
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is really unique
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Kellier
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bridesmaids
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This is right outside of norlands
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How far is this from norlands? I don't want to go to norlands again
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Do you want to elaborate on that for our listeners?
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um
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No, no, it wasn't it was
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Okay, I don't really know. I think it's just a feeling like I've been there once and now I don't need to go again
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Done with it
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Yeah, it's it's just not my type of vacation. I think I went with my family and
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um, there was some crazy weather. There was like some
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Wild storm that came through and
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So anyway, we need to figure out what our next trip is going to be
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I know it's going to be Pacific Northwest. Oh, I know but okay
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You're right. There's no more fun
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What?
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Half of the fun is in the planning we like oh, what are we gonna?
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What block of lighthouse we're gonna see part of the world and you're like we're doing it here?
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I'm like, oh, that's right
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We actually do need to plan and and decide what we're gonna do
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But I think the timeline it will probably be next year. Yeah for sure. We're getting for those of you don't know
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We're getting married this year
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The pricing of things is
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I say that already having expected prices to be crazy. They're more crazy. I thought it was going to be I thought like
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Yeah, I won't get into numbers, but I thought for sure that like 20% less
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2026 yeah, if we if we can
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You're gonna go to Sweden this year and I'm going to Sweden
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You have to see a lighthouse as much as it hurts. We'll see. It's not my trip. I'm along for the ride
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Well, that's true, but you can have some influence. You're like, hey mom
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You wanted us to talk about a lighthouse?
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You know at a convention?
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See we need cameras Emily's posturing over here moving back and forth as if
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Moving back and forth is convincing my mom to go to a lighthouse
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Maybe that's the key movement like a snake
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Like a bug or a bird dancing for another bird
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Like what is like when praying mantises go like back and forth? Yes. Thank you. You know exactly what I'm saying
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I'm not saying it clearly or birds of paradise where they're like, yes, they're little wings
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I wish we had cameras. All right
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What else what else we got? That's it. That's all I got
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Biloxi lighthouse last original standing lighthouse on the coast of Mississippi our first covered
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Mississippi lighthouse on the lighthouse lowdown podcast big moment episode 72
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Thanks for sticking with us guys. Yeah, kind of a weird one. We haven't recorded in a while, but uh, I really liked it
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Okay, really interesting. I had fun. Yeah. I think we're just not used to being recording
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We're not used to being at the desk. Yeah, we're chatting and stuff
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It's like we haven't seen each other in a really long time. It's just true. It's gone for work. So now I'm back
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All right, well, thanks everyone for joining. Um, you can check out our instagram at the lighthouse lowdown
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post some fun pictures from each episode and go to our website the lighthouse lowdown.com
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Where you can leave us a review, which is really important to us
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We love getting reviews and you can also leave us a message to cover any lighthouse
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that you live near that you've seen that you have
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A childhood surrounding or just saw off the road one time when you were driving down the highway in Mississippi
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So you could just let us know and we'll cover it. We're excited to cover lighthouses from our listeners
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Hi everyone, I'm Emily and I'm Vince and this is the lighthouse lowdown
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Choking down your coffee. It's not coffee
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So yeah, I'm not drinking caffeine right now or I'm minimizing caffeine and sugars and stuff
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So this is I asked for a decaf black coffee
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Hot and they're like we can't do that
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But we could do a decaf americano
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That doesn't make sense. Okay, so you have decaf espresso, but not I've never once heard of decaf espresso
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This is a coffee shop. Yeah anyways, so I
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Combination before and even now it's you're cooing. It's like coffee tea
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Oh, I had some tea. Well, I mean it's watered-down coffee
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If it's iced I usually like americano's, but if it's hot I feel like it would be really obvious
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Right, that's watery. I'm sorry. I didn't say the number of the other just realized we forgot that
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Vincent I were trying to get a good system for data storage
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Yeah, and it included saying the number of the episode at the beginning and we didn't do that
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So that's fine. I just was distracted by the fact that you this is episode number 72
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I'm like holding up my arms
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Like are you going to see this? This is why we need cameras
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We need people to be able to see me hold up my arms. We really don't and see we really don't because every other part is going to be
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My facial expressions. Yes, that would be great. Then I would have to dress nice
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No, that's people don't want you to dress nice. They want you to be yourself. That's
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irrelevant
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This is the third best lighthouse podcast in the world at least
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We're in the top three for sure. Yeah, probably second best in the United States for sure and
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They don't have video so it's not like we're behind on the times
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But if we had video maybe we'd be number one. Yeah, it would be all over tick-tock
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Yeah, capture the kids. We get a whole new generation at that Jeremy was saying Jeremy Deftramont when we talked with him
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How do we get the next generation involved? Just the thought of also?
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prioritizing a bunch of the social media like I'd have to quit some of my other hobbies
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Some of your other jobs that are unpaid and we can't because we're planning a wedding and I have a list of about 20 things to do
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With my hands. Yeah, there's a lot of other things to do. These are just DIY things to do
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Yeah, and that's why this episode is being recorded two days before it's released and
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That's also why we went for a shorter episode and I don't have a history buoy rock chalk
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Let's go trying to convince it down so that when I edit it today
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It's uh what what?
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I'm just like blank staring blank staring at my face and let's do a personal history buoy because we don't have a lighthouse history
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Buoy, okay, but the whole point of the no history buoy is that it's a shorter episode
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Well, then I'll stop talking well
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But what was it gonna be anyway cuz now I'm curious the thing we talked about with restaurants and memories and like we have three restaurants
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We could go to for our anniversary in the future. Oh, yeah, that's not
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Worth mentioning. All right, we're going cut that out and cut here Emily
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Oh no, okay, I'm gonna go into our episode so that
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It's so it's good
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we're gonna be talking about
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Biloxi lighthouse and this is a direct result of
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When we were driving in the car the other day and I was saying
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We've never covered a lighthouse in Mississippi
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Is there even any lighthouses in Mississippi because the coastline is so tiny and turns out there are down in the sip
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Okay, Biloxi and I did listen to some videos to figure out the pronunciation and
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There that did not happen for anything else in this episode. So I'm just gonna be like
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There's two words in particular three words right now that I'm looking at that
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I won't know how to pronounce par for the course. We're fine
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It's kind of part of the spirit of our podcast. That's why we're the third best lighthouse podcast in the world
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Jeremy says everything confidently and I just wallow Jeremy is a historian and a professional
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We are amateur or amateurs tour lighthouse enthusiasts. Yeah, so we don't have to know it all
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We're not getting paid for anything, but we got Biloxi. We're going to Mississippi
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Biloxi lighthouse was one of three Mississippi sound lighthouses
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Authorized in 1847 back in the day
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So I pulled a picture of the coastline just to it
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Accentuate how tiny it is the dotted lines are all that we have of Mississippi touching water
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So twelve thousand dollars was set aside in March of that year with one acre bought from John
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Faird for six hundred dollars to build the South's first cast iron lighthouse and keeper's dwelling
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Which were completed a year later in 1848. Nice the lighthouse is 65 feet tall made of bolted plates of cast iron
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Painted white and reinforced with a brick lining which we've talked about with other lighthouses. Yeah fairly standard for a lot of American lighthouses
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Yeah, but at this time in the south it was the first one to have that sort of build
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So it's kind of fun. It's skinny. Oh by the way, this picture that I just pulled up was taken in 1892
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I'm like, why is it so clear? This looks like a 1900s photo
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Like a night like a really good photo
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70s photo. I mean it was big news though, right? It's the first lighthouse like this in the area
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So it's probably a professional just surprised by that because it's so clear. I thought for sure it'd be like 19
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But six five feet tall
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I'm pretty good nowadays
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Talk about the interesting things that I know I'm gonna talk about and just say it right now
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I'm like no, there's a structure made of cast iron. Although the first keeper was a man
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Marsilis
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Hey point of interest you said a brick lining. Yeah, so the inside yeah, I figured the outside be break. No the inside
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It's yes. Interesting. The outside keeps more water out than brick. Yeah historically. Yeah welded and
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Interesting. Okay. Thank you
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The first keeper I tried to pronounce his name Marsilis J Howard. I'm gonna say so he was a man
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But this lighthouse is known for having the most it's kept by women for the longest amount of years in the US
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Thanks first female keeper and second keeper of the lighthouse was Maria Reynolds and she started working in 1854 and
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Worked through 1866 so solid over a decade 12 years
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She was the keeper when the reflectors were replaced with fixed white fourth order lens in 1856
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I feel like it would have been a lot later that they would have supplied a light a Fresnel lens over here
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Yeah, it's interesting in fourth order too is I forget the ranges, but it's
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Smaller range. Yeah mid-level. So this is are we looking at this photo that's on screen
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It looks like we're standing in the low tide. We're standing in the water. Yeah, potentially
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So there's a bay right here. Anyways, the point is fourth order is right on the coast. Yeah, so fix white
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Cool, and that's the Gulf, right?
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So like oh in a lot of instances during a war keepers were not in the lighthouse, you know, they
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Shuttered the lighthouse until the end of the war
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But in this case they let her stay there and continued to pay her because she had so many orphan children living in the lighthouse
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So crazy, I guess I've never considered this before so during the Civil War, right?
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I don't remember the time frame. I thought it was before this
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The reason I asked wait, let me
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1861 it started and I think it ended in 1866. Let's find it
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Okay, you say they paid her who paid her
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Interesting crazy that that happened in our history. I've never thought about it before but being a government sponsored
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You know, we watched the nun the nun too, and I'm like terrifying. Oh the horror movies. Yes
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and then there's like all these stories of
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You know abuse and stuff and I'm like that doesn't sound nice, but like modern nunneries seem to be
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People elect to do this with their lives. Well, I think most nuns throughout history. I've had good lives
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Oh, yeah, but the stories that stand out are atypical I think
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What is it monasteries or monks nunneries or nuns and there are they?
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None nuns are part of the Catholic Church. Yeah, right? Okay, sure
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So for example, I saw you said I saw some video on nuns last week. I saw one too
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said mine was a
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basketball game. Oh my gosh nuns were in full full dress playing basketball and
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Shooting three pointers and making them. Oh, it'd be so sweaty. I'm pretty sure it's a real video. You know, yeah
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I mean, I'm sure
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Okay, sorry I got so distracted the nuns don't even have anything to do with the story
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In the 1850s the lights stood less than 30 feet from the sand
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So a 104 foot concrete seawall was built to protect the tower from the waves
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And I'm pretty sure that's what's in this photo surrounding
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Oh, yeah, the lighthouse. That's the seawall nice in 1860 part of the seawall collapsed from a storm
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And this area gets lots of hurricanes like over history
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Mm-hmm, and it washed away sand around the lighthouse
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And so it formed a void under one part of the light and it developed a two-foot lean
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And they said that if the lighthouse was not
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Surrounded by the cast iron it absolutely there was no way it would have survived because just brick you think about two feet difference
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Oh, yeah lean it would be over
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Held together until they were able to fix it
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But instead of filling the void underneath they took earth from the other side of the lighthouse and it slowly
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settled
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Back to normal. That's impressive. Yeah, I wonder if it settled lower in elevation
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Oh, I bet so they just took it all well
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This anything with sand is constantly changing. So I guess I don't really know I'm really tempted to talk about the cast iron
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I think I'll save that for a future. Oh history buoy. Yeah, I have some cast iron news at work. Anyways, oh
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I'm interested but just yeah for next time a
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Fifth order for nolens was installed after the war and is still there today
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So you can go and see it nice and I have a picture. I don't think it's very good quality, but
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Yeah, it's bad quality
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But still you can see what it looks like. It's pretty neat. It appears that it's got some pitting going on
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I mean, how can you just be the image quality? Yeah, maybe it's just really sparkly. So so you said fifth order?
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And the size is available. Yeah, maybe
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They're definitely not common because most lighthouse like if we talk about lighthouses on the Great Lakes or whatever fourth order is pretty much
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What they always get so the third is rare
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So cute
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Still looks heavy. Oh, yeah, for sure
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So the dwelling was painted white while the tower was given a coat of black coal tar to protect from rust
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However, the timing of this was poor because many thought the tower was painted black in morning after Abraham Lincoln's death and
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So like it caused some unrest and yeah, because it was in the south
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Yeah, it to Bellum and on top of that
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Sailors found it very hard to see a black lighthouse against all the dark like trees that they had going on
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And so it took another two years, but they painted it white again
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1868 well, it's hard to get
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Tar off of any structure. That's one of the benefits of it's protecting it from being rusted
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Yeah, so you see they just painted over the top of the
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Campaign over tar paint over tar. I don't think you can I think they'd have to strip it. Oh, man with chemicals or straight. I mean
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Sounds terrible
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They're like fine. No wonder it took two years
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Oh
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Here's another keeper's name that I'm gonna have to pronounce Perry young ins young hands
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Young ins of course
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He was keeper following the war but passed away within the year like the first year of his service
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So his wife Maria took over as keeper until 1918
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From the 60s to the 20s almost
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1918 okay, so over 50 years 40
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50 years oh my gosh
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So crazy we don't see a lot of people serving for that long and especially not like women usually were
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Placeholders well, yeah, I'm starting in the 1800s. It was like oh, you know my husband died until you find the next one
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I'm gonna be keeper. Yeah, but this is crazy
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It's hard to understand but things moved slower
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Ten years ago. I can't imagine the 1800s how fast or rather slow things moved
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So like a job listing goes out. Oh, there's no LinkedIn. Yeah, there's there. Maybe they'll post it locally
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the technology at the time was maybe that's the newspaper
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The newspaper used to have job listings in it, but I don't know how you're gonna find a new
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Person who wants to be a lighthouse keeper that often. Yeah, so yeah husband dies
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maybe they the wife often takes over or family member takes over and then I don't know if they're active even actively seeking new
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Yeah, they're just kind of like okay good
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There's no school of lighthouse keeping at this time really it is interesting that I know of there's no like there's no where they're coming from being
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Generated from right so they're just like people who it's not like a specific
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Thing you learn how to do yeah, and that's another history
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But I want to do is what qualifies you to be a lighthouse keeper like if you apply
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What makes you more likely is it like having a mechanical like having an engineering background or you know like
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Um, what's the word a mechanic, but yeah handy handy man
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handy woman
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Yeah, well, and then that's probably part of the US LHE and their establishment of like we wear uniforms
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Yes, we do that like his military was the way that they organized. Yeah, we can't look like a bunch of civilian people like we got to make it
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Look real interesting
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Anyway, well it's 50 years of service the New Orleans Daily
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Was that was that Emily
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The what why don't they just call it New Orleans Daily
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Newspaper, but it probably was a different one called that New Orleans Daily pick a you know
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Pick a youn pick a youn. I don't know. What is that?
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Anyone knows how to pronounce that please let us know this is what I get for copying and pasting this one thing
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I was like, I don't feel like typing that out. Well now I forget to look up pronunciation
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Anyway, October 21st
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1893 they noted Maria's action during a hurricane that struck earlier that month quote at Biloxi Mrs.
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young ins
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The plucky woman who was in charge of the light kept the light going all through the storm notwithstanding the fact there were several
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Feet of water in the room where she lived
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I'm quote. Oh my gosh, and there was actually lots of mentions of Maria being a like hearty people saying a man
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What would be a Paul that the stuff that she like marched out and just dealt with like especially during hurricanes
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They always had mentioned of how she was just like a powerful lady. Well, she had seen some shit. Yeah
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You know she there's there's two options and she chose to go through it. Yeah, I
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Don't know those stories, but I could just tell
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Lucky woman. So she actually lived in the tower. There was a keeper's well, okay
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It sounded like the dwelling was in the tower for a moment. Oh, no. Yeah, it was separate
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Hurricane that they mentioned heavily damaged the breakwater protect the lighthouse
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But it was repaired the following year using timber and concrete
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So nothing, I mean the light house has lived through this is still original
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So it's lived through every single hurricane that's come its way to today. Mm-hmm. So there
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1877 the board noticed the dwelling was in disrepair so much so that they decided to demo it and build a new one. So
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Maria got a new house
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$4,000 in
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During the end of Maria's stint at the lighthouse her daughter Miranda served as assistant keeper unofficially
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It's not listed as like an official keeper, but she took over as headkeeper in 1919 until 1929 so another decade of young ins
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in the system
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The light was electrified in
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1926 and given a new flash pattern of an occulting white light that was dark for two seconds and lit for three seconds
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And it was automated in 1940. I think the flash pattern is still the same today. So
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So how long is it the young ins is the name? Yeah, how long were they operating that lighthouse? That seems like a long time
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the 50s until 1867 to
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1929 okay, I thought that was earlier than the 60s, but still yeah, dang pretty cool
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The lighthouse was declared surplus property in 1968 and the city of Biloxi has had ownership ever since
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So they got the deed the lighthouse at that time and they take really good care of it. They've done restorations and
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You know, they're ahead of their time great shape today. So that's smart of them
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I mean as we've talked about there's there was a real dry spell
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It appears in lighthouse care taking an interest in the 80s and 90s
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You know windows and fresnel lenses are being shot at on several several different places
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People would just use them as target practice. I know people broke in
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Burned them down stole things. So it's good for Biloxi to take care of their tower through that time
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Yeah, and I'm seeing uh, I follow Hillsborough inlet lighthouse Hillsborough. I think
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And they're doing a restoration right now and it's just like just gonna be
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So expensive. Oh, yeah
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I just I'm happy that there's people that care enough about it to be like we have to we have to do this
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So like even though it's so painfully expensive in order for it to survive we have to and that's what we're gonna do
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Yeah, well we so we were in construction and design and there's some customers where
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These project timelines are long like five years between so for example a project was designed
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So the customer said hey, we need this thing. It's an industrial big commercial customer. Yeah, we need this process
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So our company designs it on paper and we give them a price
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to build it and they say okay
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And then five years went by because the money's coming together because we're finding people to actually do the construction
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You know, we're managing it
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Getting permits the whole process and then over those five years the equipment that goes inside this building
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Has escalated in cost so much that the customer says what the heck?
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We can't afford to build this. It's not what the what we were quoted. It's like
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It's like those a long time. It was a long time. It was five years ago. So you took too long to do paperwork
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Yeah, and and so the point of this is our construction is just crazy crazy expensive
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I wouldn't be surprised if specialty construction like lighthouses will set new records
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Uh for sure this decade any restorations that happen. Yeah, and like materials and stuff are
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Probably not especially if you're trying to do like a restoration based on
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historical yes, like historical
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materials and stuff for acerellings. Yeah, it's got to just be crazy
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cast iron casings
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Not common. I'm glad there's still people out there that are doing that kind of stuff even though the price tag is insane
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A hurricane destroyed the keepers dwelling in 1969
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But the lighthouse survived and its construction was tough enough to withstand all hurricanes since then
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So we don't have a keepers dwelling anymore sad
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lighthouse wiped out
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In 1998 with the destruction of round island lighthouse in mississippi
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Biloxi became the last of over 10 lighthouses to be built on the mississippi coastline to still be standing. Wow
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It's the only one. There's some other little ones, but I don't think that they're they're not like originals
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Yeah, that's crazy the last of 10 that were constructed. Mm-hmm on the coastline
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In 2005 Biloxi lighthouse became the symbol of resilience still standing draped to the american flag after hurricane kurchina ripped through the south
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I've got a picture of what?
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Like this first picture is what the lighthouse looked like after the hurricane so
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Where did it pick up an american flag?
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Well, I assume someone took it up there
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No, I mean with the way that it's draped it kind of looks like
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Maybe it was hanging
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Before hand and then it got all tangled up or something, but katerina was that was in our
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Well in my lifetime when I was paying attention. It was awful. Yeah
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I have a vague memory of that happening, but being in texas, you know, we were pretty close. Yeah
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But uh, but lexy gosh. Yeah, it is not far from
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New Orleans, which is not at all. It like when I showed the
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Maps screenshot you could see New Orleans off to the side cool photo. Yeah, glad it made it
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Its imagery was printed on stamps and license plates in the state following that as the symbol of powering through
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I want one of those license plates. Isn't that cool? It's awesome
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The script on mississippi is really cool, too. I like that it um, bulloxi has a
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Weather vane on top
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Yeah, we haven't I think I've seen one or two of those I can say we haven't seen that before I have seen it once
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Or maybe we haven't covered the lighthouse that has that
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It's pretty cute and I love the tiny little windows
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That's probably how it's survived all this time. It's right on the water, too. Yes, it's right there
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And that was um, you know what I was saying earlier is it used to be
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30 feet from the shoreline and so now nowadays it's not it's like 100 something and it's actually in the median of
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A highway, so it's just like the lighthouse with a highway going on either side
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I was gonna say there's a road in the Katrina photo. There's a road
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What 10 feet from the base? Yeah, no on the other side is the other split. Yeah. Oh my gosh
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It's so crazy how the world just builds around history
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So if you want to go visit this lighthouse, is that something you can do? Yes
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Yeah, and I looked at their website and there's no description of how you're supposed to get there
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So it's gotta be obvious. There's gotta be some kind of crop tunnel or bridge or something. Yeah
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Just run across the highway
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That's so funny
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But 2010 a restoration of the tower was completed following
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extensive damage to the brick lining following Hurricane Katrina
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katikatikachow
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I keep saying katikow
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That's like the one thing that we should know
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I just can't I guess I can I've never really said that a lot
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They also did rewiring restoring the decorative fence and also repainted so
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I like that they kind of prioritized that after the hurricane because there was so much focus on it being like something
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That survived. Yeah
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so they painted two blue lines inside the lighthouse indicating how high the waters were
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at the lighthouse during hurricane Katrina, which was
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21.5 feet
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Hurricane Camille, which was 17.5 feet and this was the hurricane that
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Camille there's so many that's where the this one was keeper's house was gone. No
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I think this was the hurricane while
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Maria was keeper. So it was a long time ago
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1969 okay, so no that was that was the one that took out the that was right. Yeah, good work
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So how tall is the lighthouse overall?
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65 feet
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So the water was a third of the lighthouse in height. How creepy that had to have been like water
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It was inside. Yeah. Well the door breaks in with that much pressure
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Pretty crazy
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I can't even imagine being there. I wonder I don't humans were there
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That's what I was gonna say is there's gonna be there's probably no photo of it of looking down at the water inside of a lighthouse
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I think your staircase submerged. Well, you just have to hope that it recedes before you need to come down
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I'm sure there's like not a lot of places safer safer to be than in a lighthouse during a hurricane
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I mean inland would be better. Well, well, yeah
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Well when before weather was accurately no warning predicted. Yeah, it just
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Where do you run very little warning?
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Go to the lighthouse that's 30 feet away from
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The water was it bolivar point lighthouse that bolivar that had uh filled with people
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Yeah, didn't go well, right? Um, they all lived the ones on the inside. It was just a chaotic experience and then when they came out
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There was lots of people
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It's yeah, I think of that as more sad than happy even though the people on the inside survived. Oh, no because because it was
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Traumatic devastating they can be thankful for the fact that they're alive and still be like that was the worst experience of my entire life
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Like they definitely have PTSD from that
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Oh gosh, I can't even imagine so and also this I mean
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I mean, senior, I just I just trying to picture we took a photo
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Which lighthouse was that that she pointed out we could take a picture through the the clockwork chain opening
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Oh, um, not sit like was it not sit? Um, I took a
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It's actually a really good photo, but let's see if I can find it
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Um down through that slot looking at the staircase
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And just imagine, you know, it was like this bright sunny day
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The doors open the sunlight now imagine it's filled with water and it's black howling winds outside and it'd be dark too
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Everything's rocking. Oh my gosh. It would be so scary
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It's gonna be in a horror film in five years
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But yeah nowadays you can visit the lighthouse for five dollars daily from nine to ten a.m
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So you only get one hour to get in there. I'm sure it's a volunteer effort helping out
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Yeah, for sure. That's great though to be open daily. That's pretty good
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Most most lighthouses you really don't need an hour at no, but if there's a museum or there's grounds
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Yeah, especially because there's no I mean, this is just you're gonna see the tower and then you're gonna leave
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There's no there's no grounds. There's no keepers dwelling. There's nothing. There's a highway. Yeah
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Just the sound of cars
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And they do have a live feed on their website from
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Um, uh from the lighthouse 24 7 so it's just kind of like showing the coastline and the cars and stuff you can watch it like a little uh
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GoPro cam. Yeah, nice. Yeah, and that's that that's Biloxi lighthouse. Good job city of Biloxi
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Yeah, I know restoring when it needs it and
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It's pretty weird people interested. I'm sure every everyone who drives on the highway that's never been there before is like
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It's a lighthouse in the middle of the highway in the median surprise. No one's hit it yet
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Here's a nice picture. It's knocked on wood
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of
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Oh shoot, I never thought about that. That's a dangerous place for the lighthouse. I mean, it's kind of ironic because you know a lighthouse is like
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Stay away, right? Yeah
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Isn't this interesting it is there's just enough space they left they've got some cute
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Like landscaping around it. It literally it's uh, it's a highway median
403
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It looks like there might be a park or a beachfront on the left. Oh, yeah, it's all beachy. Nice
404
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I would love to go to this area and from this picture. It's a highway. There's stop lights
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So I'm sure you walk across one side of the street and then walk towards the lighthouse on the median
406
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It's a beautiful uh photo. It's gorgeous and the doors
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Are nice. They didn't look like that after Hurricane Katrina. Katina
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Hurricane tortilla
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Oh man, this is one I'd actually really like to see
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Do we think we'll ever like to see all the lighthouses we've talked about?
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I know I know but I feel like this one
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is really unique
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Kellier
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bridesmaids
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This is right outside of norlands
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How far is this from norlands? I don't want to go to norlands again
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Do you want to elaborate on that for our listeners?
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um
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No, no, it wasn't it was
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Okay, I don't really know. I think it's just a feeling like I've been there once and now I don't need to go again
421
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Done with it
422
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Yeah, it's it's just not my type of vacation. I think I went with my family and
423
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um, there was some crazy weather. There was like some
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Wild storm that came through and
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So anyway, we need to figure out what our next trip is going to be
426
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I know it's going to be Pacific Northwest. Oh, I know but okay
427
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You're right. There's no more fun
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What?
429
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Half of the fun is in the planning we like oh, what are we gonna?
430
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What block of lighthouse we're gonna see part of the world and you're like we're doing it here?
431
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I'm like, oh, that's right
432
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We actually do need to plan and and decide what we're gonna do
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But I think the timeline it will probably be next year. Yeah for sure. We're getting for those of you don't know
434
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We're getting married this year
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The pricing of things is
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in
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it's
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Fathomable how much it costs to have a wedding
439
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:17,760
I say that already having expected prices to be crazy. They're more crazy. I thought it was going to be I thought like
440
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Yeah, I won't get into numbers, but I thought for sure that like 20% less
441
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Maybe 30% less of what we're looking at is what would have been considered crazy
442
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And yet the number continues to climb
443
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So for that reason I think we're gonna take a take a lighthouse trip probably
444
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2026 yeah, if we if we can
445
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,040
You're gonna go to Sweden this year and I'm going to Sweden
446
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You have to see a lighthouse as much as it hurts. We'll see. It's not my trip. I'm along for the ride
447
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Well, that's true, but you can have some influence. You're like, hey mom
448
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You wanted us to talk about a lighthouse?
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You know at a convention?
450
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,920
See we need cameras Emily's posturing over here moving back and forth as if
451
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Moving back and forth is convincing my mom to go to a lighthouse
452
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Maybe that's the key movement like a snake
453
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Like a bug or a bird dancing for another bird
454
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Like what is like when praying mantises go like back and forth? Yes. Thank you. You know exactly what I'm saying
455
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I'm not saying it clearly or birds of paradise where they're like, yes, they're little wings
456
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I wish we had cameras. All right
457
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What else what else we got? That's it. That's all I got
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Biloxi lighthouse last original standing lighthouse on the coast of Mississippi our first covered
459
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Mississippi lighthouse on the lighthouse lowdown podcast big moment episode 72
460
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Thanks for sticking with us guys. Yeah, kind of a weird one. We haven't recorded in a while, but uh, I really liked it
461
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,640
Okay, really interesting. I had fun. Yeah. I think we're just not used to being recording
462
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We're not used to being at the desk. Yeah, we're chatting and stuff
463
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It's like we haven't seen each other in a really long time. It's just true. It's gone for work. So now I'm back
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All right, well, thanks everyone for joining. Um, you can check out our instagram at the lighthouse lowdown
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post some fun pictures from each episode and go to our website the lighthouse lowdown.com
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Where you can leave us a review, which is really important to us
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that you live near that you've seen that you have
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A childhood surrounding or just saw off the road one time when you were driving down the highway in Mississippi
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So you could just let us know and we'll cover it. We're excited to cover lighthouses from our listeners
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So keep that in mind
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