Episode 72 - Biloxi Lighthouse

0:00 Hi everyone, I'm Emily and I'm Vince and this is the lighthouse lowdown Choking down your coffee. It's not coffee So yeah, I'm not drinking caffeine right now or I'm minimizing caffeine and sugars and stuff So this is I asked for a decaf black coffee Hot and they're like we can't do that But we could do a decaf americano That doesn't make sense. Okay, so you have decaf espresso, but not I've never once heard of decaf espresso This is a coffee shop. Yeah anyways, so I Just added some honey to it because I couldn't drink the Combination before and even now it's you're cooing. It's like coffee tea Oh, I had some tea. Well, I mean it's watered-down coffee If it's iced I usually like americano's, but if it's hot I feel like it would be really obvious Right, that's watery. I'm sorry. I didn't say the number of the other just realized we forgot that Vincent I were trying to get a good system for data storage Yeah, and it included saying the number of the episode at the beginning and we didn't do that So that's fine. I just was distracted by the fact that you this is episode number 72 I'm like holding up my arms Like are you going to see this? This is why we need cameras

1:33 We need people to be able to see me hold up my arms. We really don't and see we really don't because every other part is going to be My facial expressions. Yes, that would be great. Then I would have to dress nice No, that's people don't want you to dress nice. They want you to be yourself. That's irrelevant This is the third best lighthouse podcast in the world at least We're in the top three for sure. Yeah, probably second best in the United States for sure and They don't have video so it's not like we're behind on the times But if we had video maybe we'd be number one. Yeah, it would be all over tick-tock Yeah, capture the kids. We get a whole new generation at that Jeremy was saying Jeremy Deftramont when we talked with him Yeah, he interviewed us. Yes. Yeah, he was saying How do we get the next generation involved? Just the thought of also?

2:26 prioritizing a bunch of the social media like I'd have to quit some of my other hobbies Some of your other jobs that are unpaid and we can't because we're planning a wedding and I have a list of about 20 things to do With my hands. Yeah, there's a lot of other things to do. These are just DIY things to do Yeah, and that's why this episode is being recorded two days before it's released and That's also why we went for a shorter episode and I don't have a history buoy rock chalk Let's go trying to convince it down so that when I edit it today It's uh what what? I'm just like blank staring blank staring at my face and let's do a personal history buoy because we don't have a lighthouse history Buoy, okay, but the whole point of the no history buoy is that it's a shorter episode Well, then I'll stop talking well But what was it gonna be anyway cuz now I'm curious the thing we talked about with restaurants and memories and like we have three restaurants We could go to for our anniversary in the future. Oh, yeah, that's not Worth mentioning. All right, we're going cut that out and cut here Emily Oh no, okay, I'm gonna go into our episode so that It's so it's good we're gonna be talking about Biloxi lighthouse and this is a direct result of When we were driving in the car the other day and I was saying We've never covered a lighthouse in Mississippi

3:58 Is there even any lighthouses in Mississippi because the coastline is so tiny and turns out there are down in the sip Yeah, so we're pronounce it again Biloxi Biloxi bi L O X I Okay, Biloxi and I did listen to some videos to figure out the pronunciation and There that did not happen for anything else in this episode. So I'm just gonna be like There's two words in particular three words right now that I'm looking at that I won't know how to pronounce par for the course. We're fine It's kind of part of the spirit of our podcast. That's why we're the third best lighthouse podcast in the world Jeremy says everything confidently and I just wallow Jeremy is a historian and a professional We are amateur or amateurs tour lighthouse enthusiasts. Yeah, so we don't have to know it all We're not getting paid for anything, but we got Biloxi. We're going to Mississippi Biloxi lighthouse was one of three Mississippi sound lighthouses Authorized in 1847 back in the day So I pulled a picture of the coastline just to it Accentuate how tiny it is the dotted lines are all that we have of Mississippi touching water So twelve thousand dollars was set aside in March of that year with one acre bought from John Faird for six hundred dollars to build the South's first cast iron lighthouse and keeper's dwelling

5:28 Which were completed a year later in 1848. Nice the lighthouse is 65 feet tall made of bolted plates of cast iron Painted white and reinforced with a brick lining which we've talked about with other lighthouses. Yeah fairly standard for a lot of American lighthouses Yeah, but at this time in the south it was the first one to have that sort of build So it's kind of fun. It's skinny. Oh by the way, this picture that I just pulled up was taken in 1892 I'm like, why is it so clear? This looks like a 1900s photo Like a night like a really good photo 70s photo. I mean it was big news though, right? It's the first lighthouse like this in the area So it's probably a professional just surprised by that because it's so clear. I thought for sure it'd be like 19 But six five feet tall I'm pretty good nowadays So let me just keep I keep wanting to like Talk about the interesting things that I know I'm gonna talk about and just say it right now I'm like no, there's a structure made of cast iron. Although the first keeper was a man Marsilis Hey point of interest you said a brick lining. Yeah, so the inside yeah, I figured the outside be break. No the inside It's yes. Interesting. The outside keeps more water out than brick. Yeah historically. Yeah welded and Interesting. Okay. Thank you The first keeper I tried to pronounce his name Marsilis J Howard. I'm gonna say so he was a man But this lighthouse is known for having the most it's kept by women for the longest amount of years in the US

7:05 Thanks first female keeper and second keeper of the lighthouse was Maria Reynolds and she started working in 1854 and Worked through 1866 so solid over a decade 12 years Yeah, and she was a keeper She was the keeper when the reflectors were replaced with fixed white fourth order lens in 1856 So that's pretty early to get a Fresnel lens I think considering how far south we are and how like it took This long to get a lighthouse down here that I don't know I feel like it would have been a lot later that they would have supplied a light a Fresnel lens over here Yeah, it's interesting in fourth order too is I forget the ranges, but it's Smaller range. Yeah mid-level. So this is are we looking at this photo that's on screen It looks like we're standing in the low tide. We're standing in the water. Yeah, potentially So there's a bay right here. Anyways, the point is fourth order is right on the coast. Yeah, so fix white Cool, and that's the Gulf, right?

8:08 Yeah, yeah, that's Gulf of Mexico small pause Due to the deaths of her relatives she was the guardian to several orphan children So even during the Civil War she and the kids lived in the lighthouse So like oh in a lot of instances during a war keepers were not in the lighthouse, you know, they Shuttered the lighthouse until the end of the war But in this case they let her stay there and continued to pay her because she had so many orphan children living in the lighthouse So crazy, I guess I've never considered this before so during the Civil War, right? I don't remember the time frame. I thought it was before this The reason I asked wait, let me 1861 it started and I think it ended in 1866. Let's find it 1865 so Okay, you say they paid her who paid her LHS well when US splits into I'm not sure that's what I was gonna say is it's probably a northern governmental body So I don't think they were paying any southern it had to well when the South separated they formed their own government Yeah, so like I'm sure that they had every avenue of what they used to have Interesting crazy that that happened in our history. I've never thought about it before but being a government sponsored Activity and then the government splits. That's yeah, she's probably like oh, no

9:42 Have lots of kids in here I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I don't know. I was like I'm watching this video. I was like, I don't know why it You know, we watched the nun the nun too, and I'm like terrifying. Oh the horror movies. Yes and then there's like all these stories of You know abuse and stuff and I'm like that doesn't sound nice, but like modern nunneries seem to be People elect to do this with their lives. Well, I think most nuns throughout history. I've had good lives Yeah, I don't I think the story like for one the horror movie is you know Oh, yeah, but the stories that stand out are atypical I think from What is it monasteries or monks nunneries or nuns and there are they?

10:51 None nuns are part of the Catholic Church. Yeah, right? Okay, sure So for example, I saw you said I saw some video on nuns last week. I saw one too said mine was a basketball game. Oh my gosh nuns were in full full dress playing basketball and Shooting three pointers and making them. Oh, it'd be so sweaty. I'm pretty sure it's a real video. You know, yeah I mean, I'm sure Okay, sorry I got so distracted the nuns don't even have anything to do with the story speculation okay In the 1850s the lights stood less than 30 feet from the sand So a 104 foot concrete seawall was built to protect the tower from the waves And I'm pretty sure that's what's in this photo surrounding Oh, yeah, the lighthouse. That's the seawall nice in 1860 part of the seawall collapsed from a storm And this area gets lots of hurricanes like over history Mm-hmm, and it washed away sand around the lighthouse And so it formed a void under one part of the light and it developed a two-foot lean And they said that if the lighthouse was not Surrounded by the cast iron it absolutely there was no way it would have survived because just brick you think about two feet difference Oh, yeah lean it would be over But because it had cast iron it Held together until they were able to fix it But instead of filling the void underneath they took earth from the other side of the lighthouse and it slowly

12:25 settled Back to normal. That's impressive. Yeah, I wonder if it settled lower in elevation Oh, I bet so they just took it all well This anything with sand is constantly changing. So I guess I don't really know I'm really tempted to talk about the cast iron I think I'll save that for a future. Oh history buoy. Yeah, I have some cast iron news at work. Anyways, oh I'm interested but just yeah for next time a Fifth order for nolens was installed after the war and is still there today So you can go and see it nice and I have a picture. I don't think it's very good quality, but Yeah, it's bad quality But still you can see what it looks like. It's pretty neat. It appears that it's got some pitting going on I mean, how can you just be the image quality? Yeah, maybe it's just really sparkly. So so you said fifth order?

13:16 Yeah, so I don't know that we've talked about a fifth order lens other than when we first talked about for now lenses And the size is available. Yeah, maybe They're definitely not common because most lighthouse like if we talk about lighthouses on the Great Lakes or whatever fourth order is pretty much What they always get so the third is rare So cute Still looks heavy. Oh, yeah, for sure So it was it was downgraded from fourth to fifth hour order interesting and they did that while the tower and the dwelling were being restored So the dwelling was painted white while the tower was given a coat of black coal tar to protect from rust However, the timing of this was poor because many thought the tower was painted black in morning after Abraham Lincoln's death and So like it caused some unrest and yeah, because it was in the south Yeah, it to Bellum and on top of that Sailors found it very hard to see a black lighthouse against all the dark like trees that they had going on And so it took another two years, but they painted it white again 1868 well, it's hard to get Tar off of any structure. That's one of the benefits of it's protecting it from being rusted Yeah, so you see they just painted over the top of the Campaign over tar paint over tar. I don't think you can I think they'd have to strip it. Oh, man with chemicals or straight. I mean Sounds terrible They're like fine. No wonder it took two years

14:47 Oh Here's another keeper's name that I'm gonna have to pronounce Perry young ins young hands Young ins of course He was keeper following the war but passed away within the year like the first year of his service So his wife Maria took over as keeper until 1918 that From the 60s to the 20s almost 67 to 1918 okay, so over 50 years 40 50 70 90 10s 50 years oh my gosh So crazy we don't see a lot of people serving for that long and especially not like women usually were Placeholders well, yeah, I'm starting in the 1800s. It was like oh, you know my husband died until you find the next one I'm gonna be keeper. Yeah, but this is crazy It's hard to understand but things moved slower Ten years ago. I can't imagine the 1800s how fast or rather slow things moved So like a job listing goes out. Oh, there's no LinkedIn. Yeah, there's there. Maybe they'll post it locally I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the technology at the time was maybe that's the newspaper The newspaper used to have job listings in it, but I don't know how you're gonna find a new

16:20 Person who wants to be a lighthouse keeper that often. Yeah, so yeah husband dies maybe they the wife often takes over or family member takes over and then I don't know if they're active even actively seeking new Yeah, they're just kind of like okay good There's no school of lighthouse keeping at this time really it is interesting that I know of there's no like there's no where they're coming from being Generated from right so they're just like people who it's not like a specific Thing you learn how to do yeah, and that's another history But I want to do is what qualifies you to be a lighthouse keeper like if you apply What makes you more likely is it like having a mechanical like having an engineering background or you know like Um, what's the word a mechanic, but yeah handy handy man handy woman Yeah, well, and then that's probably part of the US LHE and their establishment of like we wear uniforms Yes, we do that like his military was the way that they organized. Yeah, we can't look like a bunch of civilian people like we got to make it Look real interesting Anyway, well it's 50 years of service the New Orleans Daily Was that was that Emily The what why don't they just call it New Orleans Daily Newspaper, but it probably was a different one called that New Orleans Daily pick a you know Pick a youn pick a youn. I don't know. What is that?

17:52 Anyone knows how to pronounce that please let us know this is what I get for copying and pasting this one thing I was like, I don't feel like typing that out. Well now I forget to look up pronunciation Anyway, October 21st 1893 they noted Maria's action during a hurricane that struck earlier that month quote at Biloxi Mrs. young ins The plucky woman who was in charge of the light kept the light going all through the storm notwithstanding the fact there were several Feet of water in the room where she lived I'm quote. Oh my gosh, and there was actually lots of mentions of Maria being a like hearty people saying a man What would be a Paul that the stuff that she like marched out and just dealt with like especially during hurricanes They always had mentioned of how she was just like a powerful lady. Well, she had seen some shit. Yeah You know she there's there's two options and she chose to go through it. Yeah, I Don't know those stories, but I could just tell Lucky woman. So she actually lived in the tower. There was a keeper's well, okay It sounded like the dwelling was in the tower for a moment. Oh, no. Yeah, it was separate Hurricane that they mentioned heavily damaged the breakwater protect the lighthouse But it was repaired the following year using timber and concrete So nothing, I mean the light house has lived through this is still original So it's lived through every single hurricane that's come its way to today. Mm-hmm. So there 1877 the board noticed the dwelling was in disrepair so much so that they decided to demo it and build a new one. So

19:27 Maria got a new house $4,000 in 1880 During the end of Maria's stint at the lighthouse her daughter Miranda served as assistant keeper unofficially It's not listed as like an official keeper, but she took over as headkeeper in 1919 until 1929 so another decade of young ins in the system The light was electrified in 1926 and given a new flash pattern of an occulting white light that was dark for two seconds and lit for three seconds And it was automated in 1940. I think the flash pattern is still the same today. So So how long is it the young ins is the name? Yeah, how long were they operating that lighthouse? That seems like a long time the 50s until 1867 to 1929 okay, I thought that was earlier than the 60s, but still yeah, dang pretty cool The lighthouse was declared surplus property in 1968 and the city of Biloxi has had ownership ever since So they got the deed the lighthouse at that time and they take really good care of it. They've done restorations and You know, they're ahead of their time great shape today. So that's smart of them I mean as we've talked about there's there was a real dry spell It appears in lighthouse care taking an interest in the 80s and 90s You know windows and fresnel lenses are being shot at on several several different places People would just use them as target practice. I know people broke in Burned them down stole things. So it's good for Biloxi to take care of their tower through that time

21:03 Yeah, and I'm seeing uh, I follow Hillsborough inlet lighthouse Hillsborough. I think And they're doing a restoration right now and it's just like just gonna be So expensive. Oh, yeah I just I'm happy that there's people that care enough about it to be like we have to we have to do this So like even though it's so painfully expensive in order for it to survive we have to and that's what we're gonna do Yeah, well we so we were in construction and design and there's some customers where These project timelines are long like five years between so for example a project was designed So the customer said hey, we need this thing. It's an industrial big commercial customer. Yeah, we need this process So our company designs it on paper and we give them a price to build it and they say okay And then five years went by because the money's coming together because we're finding people to actually do the construction You know, we're managing it Getting permits the whole process and then over those five years the equipment that goes inside this building Has escalated in cost so much that the customer says what the heck?

22:18 We can't afford to build this. It's not what the what we were quoted. It's like well It's like those a long time. It was a long time. It was five years ago. So you took too long to do paperwork Yeah, and and so the point of this is our construction is just crazy crazy expensive I wouldn't be surprised if specialty construction like lighthouses will set new records Uh for sure this decade any restorations that happen. Yeah, and like materials and stuff are Probably not especially if you're trying to do like a restoration based on historical yes, like historical materials and stuff for acerellings. Yeah, it's got to just be crazy cast iron casings Not common. I'm glad there's still people out there that are doing that kind of stuff even though the price tag is insane A hurricane destroyed the keepers dwelling in 1969 But the lighthouse survived and its construction was tough enough to withstand all hurricanes since then So we don't have a keepers dwelling anymore sad lighthouse wiped out In 1998 with the destruction of round island lighthouse in mississippi Biloxi became the last of over 10 lighthouses to be built on the mississippi coastline to still be standing. Wow It's the only one. There's some other little ones, but I don't think that they're they're not like originals Yeah, that's crazy the last of 10 that were constructed. Mm-hmm on the coastline In 2005 Biloxi lighthouse became the symbol of resilience still standing draped to the american flag after hurricane kurchina ripped through the south

23:53 I've got a picture of what? Like this first picture is what the lighthouse looked like after the hurricane so Where did it pick up an american flag? Well, I assume someone took it up there No, I mean with the way that it's draped it kind of looks like Maybe it was hanging Before hand and then it got all tangled up or something, but katerina was that was in our Well in my lifetime when I was paying attention. It was awful. Yeah I have a vague memory of that happening, but being in texas, you know, we were pretty close. Yeah Yeah But uh, but lexy gosh. Yeah, it is not far from New Orleans, which is not at all. It like when I showed the Maps screenshot you could see New Orleans off to the side cool photo. Yeah, glad it made it Its imagery was printed on stamps and license plates in the state following that as the symbol of powering through I want one of those license plates. Isn't that cool? It's awesome The script on mississippi is really cool, too. I like that it um, bulloxi has a Weather vane on top Yeah, we haven't I think I've seen one or two of those I can say we haven't seen that before I have seen it once Or maybe we haven't covered the lighthouse that has that It's pretty cute and I love the tiny little windows That's probably how it's survived all this time. It's right on the water, too. Yes, it's right there And that was um, you know what I was saying earlier is it used to be 30 feet from the shoreline and so now nowadays it's not it's like 100 something and it's actually in the median of

25:30 A highway, so it's just like the lighthouse with a highway going on either side I was gonna say there's a road in the Katrina photo. There's a road What 10 feet from the base? Yeah, no on the other side is the other split. Yeah. Oh my gosh It's so crazy how the world just builds around history So if you want to go visit this lighthouse, is that something you can do? Yes Yeah, and I looked at their website and there's no description of how you're supposed to get there So it's gotta be obvious. There's gotta be some kind of crop tunnel or bridge or something. Yeah Just run across the highway That's so funny But 2010 a restoration of the tower was completed following extensive damage to the brick lining following Hurricane Katrina katikatikachow I keep saying katikow That's like the one thing that we should know I just can't I guess I can I've never really said that a lot They also did rewiring restoring the decorative fence and also repainted so I like that they kind of prioritized that after the hurricane because there was so much focus on it being like something That survived. Yeah so they painted two blue lines inside the lighthouse indicating how high the waters were at the lighthouse during hurricane Katrina, which was 21.5 feet and Hurricane Camille, which was 17.5 feet and this was the hurricane that

27:02 Camille there's so many that's where the this one was keeper's house was gone. No I think this was the hurricane while Maria was keeper. So it was a long time ago 1969 okay, so no that was that was the one that took out the that was right. Yeah, good work So how tall is the lighthouse overall? 65 feet So the water was a third of the lighthouse in height. How creepy that had to have been like water It was inside. Yeah. Well the door breaks in with that much pressure Pretty crazy I can't even imagine being there. I wonder I don't humans were there That's what I was gonna say is there's gonna be there's probably no photo of it of looking down at the water inside of a lighthouse I think your staircase submerged. Well, you just have to hope that it recedes before you need to come down I'm sure there's like not a lot of places safer safer to be than in a lighthouse during a hurricane I mean inland would be better. Well, well, yeah Well when before weather was accurately no warning predicted. Yeah, it just Where do you run very little warning?

28:15 Go to the lighthouse that's 30 feet away from The water was it bolivar point lighthouse that bolivar that had uh filled with people Yeah, didn't go well, right? Um, they all lived the ones on the inside. It was just a chaotic experience and then when they came out There was lots of people It's yeah, I think of that as more sad than happy even though the people on the inside survived. Oh, no because because it was Traumatic devastating they can be thankful for the fact that they're alive and still be like that was the worst experience of my entire life Like they definitely have PTSD from that Oh gosh, I can't even imagine so and also this I mean I mean, senior, I just I just trying to picture we took a photo Which lighthouse was that that she pointed out we could take a picture through the the clockwork chain opening Oh, um, not sit like was it not sit? Um, I took a It's actually a really good photo, but let's see if I can find it Um down through that slot looking at the staircase And just imagine, you know, it was like this bright sunny day The doors open the sunlight now imagine it's filled with water and it's black howling winds outside and it'd be dark too Everything's rocking. Oh my gosh. It would be so scary It's gonna be in a horror film in five years But yeah nowadays you can visit the lighthouse for five dollars daily from nine to ten a.m So you only get one hour to get in there. I'm sure it's a volunteer effort helping out Yeah, for sure. That's great though to be open daily. That's pretty good

29:47 Most most lighthouses you really don't need an hour at no, but if there's a museum or there's grounds Yeah, especially because there's no I mean, this is just you're gonna see the tower and then you're gonna leave There's no there's no grounds. There's no keepers dwelling. There's nothing. There's a highway. Yeah Just the sound of cars And they do have a live feed on their website from Um, uh from the lighthouse 24 7 so it's just kind of like showing the coastline and the cars and stuff you can watch it like a little uh GoPro cam. Yeah, nice. Yeah, and that's that that's Biloxi lighthouse. Good job city of Biloxi Yeah, I know restoring when it needs it and It's pretty weird people interested. I'm sure every everyone who drives on the highway that's never been there before is like It's a lighthouse in the middle of the highway in the median surprise. No one's hit it yet Here's a nice picture. It's knocked on wood of Oh shoot, I never thought about that. That's a dangerous place for the lighthouse. I mean, it's kind of ironic because you know a lighthouse is like Stay away, right? Yeah Isn't this interesting it is there's just enough space they left they've got some cute Like landscaping around it. It literally it's uh, it's a highway median It looks like there might be a park or a beachfront on the left. Oh, yeah, it's all beachy. Nice I would love to go to this area and from this picture. It's a highway. There's stop lights So I'm sure you walk across one side of the street and then walk towards the lighthouse on the median

31:21 It's a beautiful uh photo. It's gorgeous and the doors Are nice. They didn't look like that after Hurricane Katrina. Katina Hurricane tortilla Oh man, this is one I'd actually really like to see Do we think we'll ever like to see all the lighthouses we've talked about? I know I know but I feel like this one is really unique Kellier bridesmaids This is right outside of norlands How far is this from norlands? I don't want to go to norlands again Do you want to elaborate on that for our listeners? um No, no, it wasn't it was Okay, I don't really know. I think it's just a feeling like I've been there once and now I don't need to go again Done with it Yeah, it's it's just not my type of vacation. I think I went with my family and um, there was some crazy weather. There was like some Wild storm that came through and So anyway, we need to figure out what our next trip is going to be I know it's going to be Pacific Northwest. Oh, I know but okay You're right. There's no more fun What?

32:38 Half of the fun is in the planning we like oh, what are we gonna? What block of lighthouse we're gonna see part of the world and you're like we're doing it here? I'm like, oh, that's right We actually do need to plan and and decide what we're gonna do But I think the timeline it will probably be next year. Yeah for sure. We're getting for those of you don't know We're getting married this year The pricing of things is in it's Fathomable how much it costs to have a wedding I say that already having expected prices to be crazy. They're more crazy. I thought it was going to be I thought like Yeah, I won't get into numbers, but I thought for sure that like 20% less Maybe 30% less of what we're looking at is what would have been considered crazy And yet the number continues to climb So for that reason I think we're gonna take a take a lighthouse trip probably 2026 yeah, if we if we can You're gonna go to Sweden this year and I'm going to Sweden You have to see a lighthouse as much as it hurts. We'll see. It's not my trip. I'm along for the ride Well, that's true, but you can have some influence. You're like, hey mom You wanted us to talk about a lighthouse?

34:00 You know at a convention? See we need cameras Emily's posturing over here moving back and forth as if Moving back and forth is convincing my mom to go to a lighthouse Maybe that's the key movement like a snake Like a bug or a bird dancing for another bird Like what is like when praying mantises go like back and forth? Yes. Thank you. You know exactly what I'm saying I'm not saying it clearly or birds of paradise where they're like, yes, they're little wings I wish we had cameras. All right What else what else we got? That's it. That's all I got Biloxi lighthouse last original standing lighthouse on the coast of Mississippi our first covered Mississippi lighthouse on the lighthouse lowdown podcast big moment episode 72 Thanks for sticking with us guys. Yeah, kind of a weird one. We haven't recorded in a while, but uh, I really liked it Okay, really interesting. I had fun. Yeah. I think we're just not used to being recording We're not used to being at the desk. Yeah, we're chatting and stuff It's like we haven't seen each other in a really long time. It's just true. It's gone for work. So now I'm back All right, well, thanks everyone for joining. Um, you can check out our instagram at the lighthouse lowdown post some fun pictures from each episode and go to our website the lighthouse lowdown.com Where you can leave us a review, which is really important to us We love getting reviews and you can also leave us a message to cover any lighthouse

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